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Post by prgolf2125 on Mar 24, 2014 19:21:18 GMT -5
I just picked up an APC H10 Power Conditioner for my two channel setup but I'm not sure where to place it. I don't have an empty shelf and because of its relative size, it needs to go on top of something else. Would there be any issue with setting it on top of an XDA-1?
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 24, 2014 19:41:13 GMT -5
My suggestion on where to put a power conditioner......................in the garbage bin.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by repeetavx on Mar 24, 2014 20:44:54 GMT -5
I just picked up an APC H10 Power Conditioner for my two channel setup but I'm not sure where to place it. I don't have an empty shelf and because of its relative size, it needs to go on top of something else. Would there be any issue with setting it on top of an XDA-1? Yes. Don't place it on top of, or anywhere near the audio equipment. It generates large magnetic fields that can induce noise into any audio equipment. The floor is where most people put power conditioners. Amps should not be plugged into it. |
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Post by brijenjas on Mar 24, 2014 20:46:54 GMT -5
My suggestion on where to put a power conditioner......................in the garbage bin. Cheers Gary Yes that's helpful Gary.  That looks like a nice unit with Automatic Voltage Regulation and sequenced on/off capabilities. I had my Bluray player on top of my Power conditioner for years with no adverse effects, but mine doesn't have AVR. just low/high voltage shutdown. That APC H10 more than likely has a large toroidal transformer in it since it has AVR, I wouldn't put it on top of the XDA-1 for fear of EMI. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 24, 2014 21:01:31 GMT -5
My suggestion on where to put a power conditioner......................in the garbage bin. Yes that's helpful Gary. That looks like a nice unit with Automatic Voltage Regulation and sequenced on/off capabilities. I had my Bluray player on top of my Power conditioner for years with no adverse effects, but mine doesn't have AVR. just low/high voltage shutdown. That APC H10 more than likely has a large toroidal transformer in it since it has AVR, I wouldn't put it on top of the XDA-1 for fear of EMI. Not only is it helpful I think it's actually the right thing to do. I have never seen a power conditioner that does anything good, whereas plenty of them do many bad things. Not the least of which is to rob power amps of dynamic range due to their instantaneous voltage/amperage limitations. You are also right to raise the spector of EMI/EMF interference, it's quite a common unwanted side effect. Cheers Gary |
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Post by jlafrenz on Mar 24, 2014 21:18:48 GMT -5
This thread is about where to place power conditioners, not whether they should be used or not. Let's keep this thread from getting derailed.
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Post by prgolf2125 on Mar 24, 2014 21:33:26 GMT -5
Thank you!
Gary's response would have been appropriate if my question had been "Should I use a power conditioner?", but that's not what I asked. I bought one and now I'm trying to figure out the best placement. I chose this area to post this because to many, it may be a stupid question, but I wasn't sure about the effects of having it near the gear its supposed to be protecting. I do know enough that I won't plug the amp or sub into it. I'm using an H15 with my HT equipment and never had any issues, but it is isolated on its own shelf.
Part of the reason to get it was to clean up the power cables that currently snake across the floor to the surge protector, which is currently on the floor. The unit comes with rack ears for rack mounting, so another stupid question: If it can cause EMI problems, why is it designed for rack-mounting and why would anyone do it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 21:41:48 GMT -5
I just picked up an APC H10 Power Conditioner for my two channel setup but I'm not sure where to place it. I don't have an empty shelf and because of its relative size, it needs to go on top of something else. Would there be any issue with setting it on top of an XDA-1? prgolf2125 you made a good choice on getting the APC H10. I decided on the APC brand myself when I read that the US Gov't, UPS, etc., chose them as the surge protector/power conditioners of choice. Their coax filtering/surge protection for TV signal coax is supposedly excellent. A friend of mine had a voltage spike that fried the motherboard on his 55" Samsung. What was interesting was that the repairman determined that the spike came through the coax cable. I did not even know this was possible. But in researching I did find out that voltage spikes do come through TV coax as well. Had my friend been using some kind of coax surge protection, his TV might still be alive today. My DriveCore amps seem particularly sensitive to line noise from the AC outlets in my living room. The fact that I could hear line noise in between songs was really annoying. Yes, I understand the logic that you should not run your power amps through surge protection because the surge protector may limit the power needed in sudden transient attacks. However, as an experiment, I ran two of my DriveCores through my AP C H15, and the line noise completely disappeared. Also, there was no difference in sound when I tested by playing some of the depth charge scenes in the movie U-571. Now it could be that Class D amps are more efficient to the degree that direct to AC outlet does not apply the same with them like it would in other power amp topologies. Anyway, I have less power amp noise, and my TV, and other equipment are protected  My APC produces almost no heat, and it weighs about 15lbs. I feel certain your XDA-1 would be just fine with the APC on top of it. I sit my APC directly on top of my DriveCores. No problem with heat, or noise. |
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Post by garbulky on Mar 25, 2014 7:45:56 GMT -5
Other than that I agree with gary (unless you have audible issues), you can place the power conditioner on top of the XDA-1.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Mar 25, 2014 8:27:33 GMT -5
I have had equipment saved by power conditioners and I've never heard any detrimental effects (nor have I heard any benefits). If you must put it near your other equipment I'd try to put it as low as possible (because of weight), if your options are limited you may just have to experiment.
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Post by Priapulus on Mar 25, 2014 16:03:11 GMT -5
> The unit comes with rack ears for rack mounting, so another stupid question: If it can cause EMI problems, why is it designed for rack-mounting and why would anyone do it?
Just try it. Place it in the rack, or where you want it and plug it in. If you hear noise, move it and retry.
Mine work just fine in the rack.
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