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Post by novisnick on Apr 18, 2014 10:42:42 GMT -5
Lasers look but don't touch but a TT drags a stylus across a surface. That is the inherent flaw. Yeah but some people are touchy/feely and some are not. There's room for both.  Yes, of course there's room for all,,,,,that's why we're all here, I love picking,,,,but in all honesty,,,,,I love my music any way I can get it. I could write all day about which form factor is best,,,,,and I can tell you absolutely that the best is,,,,,,,,,,,,, What ever your listening to at the time!!!!!!! : ) Nick |
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Post by Cogito on Apr 18, 2014 12:54:18 GMT -5
i just bought a denon dp-62l turntable im running xpr-1 amps, xsp-1 gen 2 pre, erc-3 cd player with acoustat model 4 full range electrostatic speakers, all cables are mogambi gold xlr and speaker wires are audio quest caldera cables......my problem is that i was using a pro-ject rpm 1.3 genie turntable and i would here good bass with this turntable, since i connected the denon i don't get that same bass, evrything sound very bright. When i would play the cd or steam music i would get a awsome bass tone. so i tried back and fourth with both turntables and the same thing, the denon wouldn't give me that bass sound that im use to. Is this normal for the denon, because ive heard greatthings about this turntable....is there something i need to do.....the cartridge is a orfoton 2m. Is the problem the catridge, or my system, or speakers. the ones he had were not in the same class as mine....but i did here some bass, and his speakers were smaller than mine, his listening room was that of a small freshman dorm, my room has a 15+foot ceiling....your help would be much needed thanks emo lounge...mark This might be a silly question, but did you happen to disconnect the speakers for any reason and then hook them back up out of phase? |
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Post by Porscheguy on Apr 18, 2014 16:33:19 GMT -5
Yeah but some people are touchy/feely and some are not. There's room for both. Yes, of course there's room for all,,,,,that's why we're all here, I love picking,,,,but in all honesty,,,,,I love my music any way I can get it. I could write all day about which form factor is best,,,,,and I can tell you absolutely that the best is,,,,,,,,,,,,, What ever your listening to at the time!!!!!!! : ) Nick I agree that everyone should listen to what they like but it's crazy for people to try to make a TT sound like a CD. It never will, just like a 56 Edsel isn't a 14 Mercedes. You can still like both just realize the limitations of TT's |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 18, 2014 16:53:34 GMT -5
And those of a CD
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Post by brubacca on Apr 18, 2014 17:10:36 GMT -5
Potato , potaahto
Tomato, tomaahto
Chocolate, Strawberry
CD/Digital, Vinyl
Can we please move on?
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Post by novisnick on Apr 18, 2014 17:16:39 GMT -5
Just poking some fun,,,,,,,, gezzzzzzzz!
Anyway, you really may want to check your set-up for your cartridge.
Nick
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Post by Porscheguy on Apr 19, 2014 6:08:31 GMT -5
Potato , potaahto Tomato, tomaahto Chocolate, Strawberry CD/Digital, Vinyl Can we please move on? |
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Post by brubacca on Apr 19, 2014 6:51:17 GMT -5
Porcheguy-
You are the one who waded into this thread to start an argument. The OP asked for help getting the bass to sound right with his TT. How have your comments helped him with his TT?
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Post by Porscheguy on Apr 19, 2014 9:19:26 GMT -5
Porcheguy- You are the one who waded into this thread to start an argument. The OP asked for help getting the bass to sound right with his TT. How have your comments helped him with his TT? I wasn't trying to start any argument at all, I was just trying to being a bit humorous. I do find interesting that many guys are disappointed at their TT's performance because they benchmark it against a CD which is not a fair fight. I have a really nice Denon TT but it doesn't come close to sounding like a CD. I think people should look at turntables in a nostalgic way and not have a real high expectation. I'm not sure it was God's intention to replicate music by dragging a needle over a piece of vinyl. It's a flawed method in so many ways. I have a Nakamichi cassette player that KILLS any LP I've ever heard in SQ. That should be the focus in my view. Cassettes have many obvious advantages when compared to vinyl. As far as this thread goes, again, if you don't like, stay away. I'd say 95% of all the threads here I do not respond to because I have no interest or they are so silly and repetitive I just shake my head and move on. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 19, 2014 9:57:41 GMT -5
Porcheguy- You are the one who waded into this thread to start an argument. The OP asked for help getting the bass to sound right with his TT. How have your comments helped him with his TT? I wasn't trying to start any argument at all, I was just trying to being a bit humorous. I do find interesting that many guys are disappointed at their TT's performance because they benchmark it against a CD which is not a fair fight. I have a really nice Denon TT but it doesn't come close to sounding like a CD. I think people should look at turntables in a nostalgic way and not have a real high expectation. I'm not sure it was God's intention to replicate music by dragging a needle over a piece of vinyl. It's a flawed method in so many ways. I have a Nakamichi cassette player that KILLS any LP I've ever heard in SQ. That should be the focus in my view. Cassettes have many obvious advantages when compared to vinyl. As far as this thread goes, again, if you don't like, stay away. I'd say 95% of all the threads here I do not respond to because I have no interest or they are so silly and repetitive I just shake my head and move on. This thread was informative, friendly and fun. A great exchange of information and good old fashioned ribbing. if anyone missed that part,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,that's a shame. Peace, Nick |
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Post by Porscheguy on Apr 19, 2014 12:38:33 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to start any argument at all, I was just trying to being a bit humorous. I do find interesting that many guys are disappointed at their TT's performance because they benchmark it against a CD which is not a fair fight. I have a really nice Denon TT but it doesn't come close to sounding like a CD. I think people should look at turntables in a nostalgic way and not have a real high expectation. I'm not sure it was God's intention to replicate music by dragging a needle over a piece of vinyl. It's a flawed method in so many ways. I have a Nakamichi cassette player that KILLS any LP I've ever heard in SQ. That should be the focus in my view. Cassettes have many obvious advantages when compared to vinyl. As far as this thread goes, again, if you don't like, stay away. I'd say 95% of all the threads here I do not respond to because I have no interest or they are so silly and repetitive I just shake my head and move on. This thread was informative, friendly and fun. A great exchange of information and good old fashioned ribbing. if anyone missed that part,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,that's a shame. Peace, Nick Agreed. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 19, 2014 13:01:19 GMT -5
This thread was informative, friendly and fun. A great exchange of information and good old fashioned ribbing. if anyone missed that part,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,that's a shame. Peace, Nick Agreed. Even though,,,,Tape stinks,,,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,, naw, really,,,,,,each format has it's pros and cons |
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Post by boscobear on Apr 19, 2014 13:25:42 GMT -5
I can't stop the fact that from time to time I play vinyl records. I enjoy doing it too. I have 100's of LP's, and a few thousand 45's and they do sound good. Not great, a bit shallow, but some of that music is not replaceable on digital. For 8 years during my youth, I worked in a record shop. '61 to '68 some of my fondest memories.
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Post by Porscheguy on Apr 19, 2014 13:57:05 GMT -5
I can't stop the fact that from time to time I play vinyl records. I enjoy doing it too. I have 100's of LP's, and a few thousand 45's and they do sound good. Not great, a bit shallow, but some of that music is not replaceable on digital. For 8 years during my youth, I worked in a record shop. '61 to '68 some of my fondest memories. And you should if you enjoy it because there's nothing wrong with playing LP's. The only point I was (trying) to make was vinyl is great fun and nostalgic to some like a 57 Chevy might be someone else. |
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Post by lionear on Apr 19, 2014 15:40:17 GMT -5
i just bought a denon dp-62l turntable im running xpr-1 amps, xsp-1 gen 2 pre, erc-3 cd player with acoustat model 4 full range electrostatic speakers, all cables are mogambi gold xlr and speaker wires are audio quest caldera cables......my problem is that i was using a pro-ject rpm 1.3 genie turntable and i would here good bass with this turntable, since i connected the denon i don't get that same bass, evrything sound very bright. When i would play the cd or steam music i would get a awsome bass tone. so i tried back and fourth with both turntables and the same thing, the denon wouldn't give me that bass sound that im use to. Is this normal for the denon, because ive heard greatthings about this turntable....is there something i need to do.....the cartridge is a orfoton 2m. Is the problem the catridge, or my system, or speakers. the ones he had were not in the same class as mine....but i did here some bass, and his speakers were smaller than mine, his listening room was that of a small freshman dorm, my room has a 15+foot ceiling....your help would be much needed thanks emo lounge...mark Perhaps cartridge is connected incorrectly. This would, I think, be similar to what you might hear if the speakers were not connected correctly. Or you might be hearing the difference between the Denon and the Pro-ject. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 19, 2014 18:35:52 GMT -5
Porcheguy- You are the one who waded into this thread to start an argument. The OP asked for help getting the bass to sound right with his TT. How have your comments helped him with his TT? I wasn't trying to start any argument at all, I was just trying to being a bit humorous. I do find interesting that many guys are disappointed at their TT's performance because they benchmark it against a CD which is not a fair fight. I have a really nice Denon TT but it doesn't come close to sounding like a CD. I think people should look at turntables in a nostalgic way and not have a real high expectation. I'm not sure it was God's intention to replicate music by dragging a needle over a piece of vinyl. It's a flawed method in so many ways. I have a Nakamichi cassette player that KILLS any LP I've ever heard in SQ. That should be the focus in my view. Cassettes have many obvious advantages when compared to vinyl. As far as this thread goes, again, if you don't like, stay away. I'd say 95% of all the threads here I do not respond to because I have no interest or they are so silly and repetitive I just shake my head and move on. By the way, God has his Angels make his music " Live " |
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Post by basquiat on Apr 20, 2014 10:03:05 GMT -5
just replaced the cartridge with a grado gold and the tt sounds amazing.....my lps just seemed to come to life, thanks emo community and by the way this is suppose to be a community to help not put down...thanks agian mark
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Post by mshump on Apr 20, 2014 10:40:39 GMT -5
Congrats !! Glad you are happy with your TT now. I love Grado carts. I think they sound the most rounded SQ wise and they are not real expensive.
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