XPA 200 or XPA3 or UPA700

[Dark Ranger]

The Fusion 8100 AVR is rated at 65 watts per channel into 8 ohms with 0.05% distortion, all channels driven. Although the Fusion AVR has lower distortion figures at rated power, both the Denon and Fusion AVRs have nearly identical power output when all channels are driven. Therefore, buying the Fusion would be a sideways move if power output is considered.

I'm still not entirely sure what you're after. The original post mentioned the desire for "creating a warmer sound and better movies," but a later post suggests wanting to reduce the load on the AVR. I can understand the power upgrade as well as distributing the load. But warmth, in my opinion, is not something you're going to get from Emotiva amplifiers. They're designed to be neutral.

What is the size (L x W x H) of your listening room? How far away do you sit from the main speakers? Are you hearing any compression or clipping from your current AVR at typical listening volumes or during loud peaks?

[hemster]

Jul 6, 2014 8:44:01 GMT -5 denon2311 said:

Correct ! I am also considering umc 200+upa700 but not sure the performance is ok.



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Which particular aspect of performance are you worried about? UMC200 and UPA700 together are a formidable combination and unbeatable for the price. 

[denon2311]

Hi
Please advise if it is possible to connect sub woofer preout to UPA700


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[garbulky]

Jul 9, 2014 0:02:52 GMT -5 denon2311 said:

Hi
Please advise if it is possible to connect sub woofer preout to UPA700


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Hi denon. I am not sure if you've comprehended that your current AVR cannot be connected to any Emotiva amp. Your AVR simply does not have the pre-amp outputs that are needed to connect it to a UPA-700. You would need something like a UMC-200 or a fusion 8100 to do so. If you buy the amp without buying a different AVR/emotiva pre-pro, you would have no sound.

This may help as I didn't quite get this bit. The UPA-700 has no volume control at all. It goes full volume ALL THE TIME. That is why you need a system that has a volume control to reduce the volume and send the signal to the UPA-700 like a UMC-200 or fusion 8100 (also called a pre-out).


Having said that.
Yes you can connect the subwoofer pre-out to any channel on the UPA-700 but it's not going to work for you. Your current SVS sub has an inbuilt amplifier and therefore DOES NOT REQUIRE AN AMPLIFIER. The only reason to use a pre-out to the UPA-700 is if you have a passive subwoofer which I'm pretty sure you do not have.
To use the subwoofer preout you would connect the pre-out directly to your SVS subwoofer not to the UPA-700.

This may help too
UMC-200 pre amp outputs
Front left, right, rear left and right, and center channel go to the UPA-700.

UMC-200 pre-amp subwoofer output:
goes directly into the RCA input on SVS subwoofer

[denon2311]

Hi
There is a preout output for 7.1 channel as attached.
Thanks for all feedback to help me understand on emotiva products.


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[repeetavx]

Jul 9, 2014 9:34:42 GMT -5 denon2311 said:

Hi
There is a preout output for 7.1 channel as attached.

Nice!

Seems that the 230 volt European version has Pre-Outs and the North American "C1" version doesn't.

According to the manufactures manual it will drive 135 watts into 6 ohms, all channels driven, and has a 600 watt internal power supply to make sure that it can. On the other hand it also states that 6 ohms is the lowest impedance speaker it's rated for. The amps have great S/N and distortion specs.

My suggestion is to get the XPA-3. While the XPA-200 and UPA-700 will sound great, it will take the XPA-3 with its extra output devices to truly give you a noticeable step up in control and performance. This will allow the Denon to use its internal power supply for the rear and surround channels with plenty of reserve, and no chance of internal voltage drop for any of the other internal circuitry. I suggest that you buy the Gen. 2 model which, with its 29db gain,  will match the Denon's internal amps more closely.

Unless, of course, you want to buy a pair of XPA-100s. Which will still take a large burden off the Denon's power supply. Allow you to place the two amps next to your stereo main speakers with short speaker cables, and take you yet another step up in fidelity.