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Post by aussiejosh on Aug 18, 2014 9:00:13 GMT -5
Can anyone recommend a sub under $1000 (perhaps slightly over if needed) that will be used 100% for music in a 2.1 channel system with a set of Bowers and Wilkins 685s
Cheers, guys!
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Post by frenchyfranky on Aug 18, 2014 9:18:18 GMT -5
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Post by garym on Aug 18, 2014 9:22:21 GMT -5
Or the SVS SB-1000. $499. $949 for a pair. |
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Post by frenchyfranky on Aug 18, 2014 9:39:16 GMT -5
I like the lower extension of the SB-2000 = 19Hz vs SB-1000 = 24Hz
I think it worth the price.
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Post by garym on Aug 18, 2014 9:49:40 GMT -5
I like the lower extension of the SB-2000 = 19Hz vs SB-1000 = 24Hz I think it worth the price. It would be, for movies. But almost no musical material has freqs that low (Saint-Saens Organ Symphony excepted). |
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Post by aussiejosh on Aug 18, 2014 9:53:55 GMT -5
I've been looking at SVS. Would you rate SVS above Velodyne? |
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Post by garym on Aug 18, 2014 10:04:59 GMT -5
I've been looking at SVS. Would you rate SVS above Velodyne? Which Velodyne? They have subs from $300 to $6000. |
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Post by aussiejosh on Aug 18, 2014 10:12:20 GMT -5
EQ MAX 10 or 12, was also looking at the SPL-800i Mini 8 Inch Subwoofer |
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Post by pedrocols on Aug 18, 2014 10:19:36 GMT -5
Freq.Response 24-260Hz ± 3dB of the SB-1000 I think is pretty good if that is not an in room response. I would assume it will be greater with room gain.
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Post by stads77 on Aug 18, 2014 10:39:45 GMT -5
I would suggest picking up some used (2) Martin Logan Dynamo's (the original sealed cab). They are amazing for a small-medium room and one of the most musical subs I have heard, especially at around $250 ea. used. They are about 12" cubed and can be used in front firing or down firing position. I believe ebay has one that is ending today. Figured I could give you my honest suggestion, if spending 1,000 on a new sub is your inclination, then this advice is probably of no use.
Just noticed, your probably not in the USA, so nevermind..
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Post by aussiejosh on Aug 18, 2014 10:53:42 GMT -5
I would suggest picking up some used (2) Martin Logan Dynamo's (the original sealed cab). They are amazing for a small-medium room and one of the most musical subs I have heard, especially at around $250 ea. used. They are about 12" cubed and can be used in front firing or down firing position. I believe ebay has one that is ending today. Figured I could give you my honest suggestion, if spending 1,000 on a new sub is your inclination, then this advice is probably of no use. Just noticed, your probably not in the USA, so nevermind.. I'm not dead set on spending 1,000, if I can save money and still get a great sub then it's a win win. Yeah, I'm in Australia. Thinking the SVS SB-1000 is the way to go. |
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Post by jackpine on Aug 18, 2014 12:47:36 GMT -5
Looks like you can get a refurb EQ MAX12 direct from Velodyne. Not sure how good they are or if shipping would be too high. I have a Velodyne DD10 with B&W 683s which I really like. Great with music won't shake the house with movies but that's not what you're looking for anyways. If you can find a used DD, DD+ or Optimum in 10 or 12 inches you'll be very happy. If you prefer new I really can't comment as to the EQ MAX vs SVS other than with one you get auto EQ with the other you get internet direct value.
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Post by deltadube on Aug 18, 2014 13:00:39 GMT -5
Can anyone recommend a sub under $1000 (perhaps slightly over if needed) that will be used 100% for music in a 2.1 channel system with a set of Bowers and Wilkins 685s Cheers, guys!  this is the one you want... only 799 free 30 day try out free return shipping.. get a pair.. powersoundaudio.com cheers |
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Post by jackpine on Aug 18, 2014 13:54:34 GMT -5
Can anyone recommend a sub under $1000 (perhaps slightly over if needed) that will be used 100% for music in a 2.1 channel system with a set of Bowers and Wilkins 685s Cheers, guys! this is the one you want... only 799 free 30 day try out free return shipping.. get a pair.. powersoundaudio.com cheers I'm sure it's a great value for home theater but that's not what he's looking for. A 12" sealed should be tighter and faster. Built in EQ would be better since he won't be using a surround processor. PSA doesn't even spec what their crossover slope is. I'm pretty familiar with the HSU Research VTF-15F which I think would better PSA it has variable Q and porting and a steep built in crossover. That said I've never heard a PSA but my Velodyne is more musical than the HSU. |
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Post by oppman99 on Aug 18, 2014 14:50:37 GMT -5
Driver size does not determine if a sub is "fast and tight". Cabinet, power, driver efficiency....now those things matter.
I will probably get flamed for this, but I don't find SVS subs very musical. Probably because I've been spoiled by hearing Funk Audio and TC Sounds subs. How important are looks? There is a guy on the AVS forum that sells flat packs. You just assemble and finish and drop in the driver. I did this with a TC Sounds driver and the results were excellent for music. You would need an external amp, but I find that preferable anyway.
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Post by Cogito on Aug 18, 2014 14:52:51 GMT -5
All I can say is that my SVS PB12 NSD (Their previous generation of sub) is the most "musical" sub I've owned and it's a ported design to boot! Integrates seamlessly with my MG-1.7s. It certainly brings to the table what the Maggies simply can't do by themselves. I also bought the isolation feet they offer and they greatly reduced the rattle from the picture frames on the walls.
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Post by deltadube on Aug 18, 2014 17:23:00 GMT -5
this is the one you want... only 799 free 30 day try out free return shipping.. get a pair.. powersoundaudio.com cheers I'm sure it's a great value for home theater but that's not what he's looking for. A 12" sealed should be tighter and faster. Built in EQ would be better since he won't be using a surround processor. PSA doesn't even spec what their crossover slope is. I'm pretty familiar with the HSU Research VTF-15F which I think would better PSA it has variable Q and porting and a steep built in crossover. That said I've never heard a PSA but my Velodyne is more musical than the HSU. great sounding stereo subs.. im using them the last month ... excellent.. very tight and very fast... if you want to eq then use a mini dsp which is much better than built in... cross over roll off is more a function of your pre amp/ avr.... im using the xsp 1 which is 12db/octave.. this is the one to BEAT |
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 18, 2014 17:45:51 GMT -5
What are you using it with Josh? I'm not a big fan of wasting money on features in a powered sub that I already have in my processor and/or pre amp (ie; cross over slope etc). I have also been surprised at how much difference a decent quality power amp makes to a sub's musicality. Even to a relatively large driver in a dual ported enclosure that some argue would never be "musical". I would also mention that imported speakers have a lot of freight (ie; heavy and full of air) and duty in their price not to mention distributor, wholesaler and retailer mark up. With this in mind, all of my subs have been DIY, but my next one will most likely be a 1230 from Edward, at $895 there isn't a better musical sub that I have heard. www.adelaidespeakers.com/subwoofers.htmlCheers Gary |
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Post by aussiejosh on Aug 18, 2014 19:10:10 GMT -5
What are you using it with Josh? I'm not a big fan of wasting money on features in a powered sub that I already have in my processor and/or pre amp (ie; cross over slope etc). I have also been surprised at how much difference a decent quality power amp makes to a sub's musicality. Even to a relatively large driver in a dual ported enclosure that some argue would never be "musical". I would also mention that imported speakers have a lot of freight (ie; heavy and full of air) and duty in their price not to mention distributor, wholesaler and retailer mark up. With this in mind, all of my subs have been DIY, but my next one will most likely be a 1230 from Edward, at $895 there isn't a better musical sub that I have heard. www.adelaidespeakers.com/subwoofers.htmlCheers Gary I'm using it with an XSP-1 pre and a UPA-200 power amp. I'm in a wheelchair some putting together a DIY sub is probably something I'd rather avoid, haha. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 18, 2014 20:26:20 GMT -5
What are you using it with Josh? I'm not a big fan of wasting money on features in a powered sub that I already have in my processor and/or pre amp (ie; cross over slope etc). I have also been surprised at how much difference a decent quality power amp makes to a sub's musicality. Even to a relatively large driver in a dual ported enclosure that some argue would never be "musical". I would also mention that imported speakers have a lot of freight (ie; heavy and full of air) and duty in their price not to mention distributor, wholesaler and retailer mark up. With this in mind, all of my subs have been DIY, but my next one will most likely be a 1230 from Edward, at $895 there isn't a better musical sub that I have heard. www.adelaidespeakers.com/subwoofers.htmlI'm using it with an XSP-1 pre and a UPA-200 power amp. I'm in a wheelchair some putting together a DIY sub is probably something I'd rather avoid, haha. I understand, DIY subs are not for everyone, that's why I suggested having a chat to Edward. XSP-1 + UPA-200 would be a nice combo. Cheers Gary |
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