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Post by foggy1956 on Aug 28, 2014 8:03:47 GMT -5
Doc did you happen to measure the resistance of the modded cable? I would like to not have to experiment too much with the values I have laying around if possible. Its bad enough she have to have mess with at all never mind stubble around with this value or that. Emotiva really needs to detail these workaround properly. Most of us are using Emotiva XPA or UPA series amps so this is important to provide a vale. Im not going to wait for them to ship out a cable or 3 that will take weeks to get to me. The only model you will need this on is the UPA-700 and anything between 33 and 47 ohm will do just fine. Would you like for me to give you a schematic for a bullet proof trigger cable? Lonnie This is also occurring on my upa-500 |
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Post by bluescale on Aug 28, 2014 10:10:56 GMT -5
The only model you will need this on is the UPA-700 and anything between 33 and 47 ohm will do just fine. Would you like for me to give you a schematic for a bullet proof trigger cable? Lonnie This is also occurring on my upa-500 I think Lonnie's point was that this happens on the UPA line, not the XPA line. |
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Post by doc1963 on Aug 28, 2014 10:40:54 GMT -5
This is also occurring on my upa-500 I think Lonnie's point was that this happens on the UPA line, not the XPA line. It happens on both the XPA and UPA series... I have XPA-1s and the problem occurs. It is now fixed by use of the "modified" trigger cable. |
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Post by wizardofoz on Aug 28, 2014 11:26:44 GMT -5
I have XPA-1G1 for my centre channel and UPA-1's for other channels too. Ill go hunt down some 33-47ohms - for now I'm not having any triggers hooked up. I also have XPA-5G2's for my fronts
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Post by bborzell on Aug 28, 2014 14:36:03 GMT -5
Not clear on the nature and extent of the reported trigger issue. I have 3 UPA-1s and two UPA-2s daisy chained for on/off with the XMC-1 with no issues. Using cables that came with the units. Are people having problems with more complex settings than simply on/off?
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Post by robcs on Aug 28, 2014 18:13:55 GMT -5
The only model you will need this on is the UPA-700 and anything between 33 and 47 ohm will do just fine. Would you like for me to give you a schematic for a bullet proof trigger cable? Lonnie Yes please !! |
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Post by PoloOle on Aug 28, 2014 20:11:44 GMT -5
As a side note, the Xmc-1 does 192K with all inputs, except USB. Most of our digital test during final assembly is done at 192K. So please check your source unit to make sure that is what it outputting. Lonnie Hi Lonnie, I checked my WD live media hub today with the UMC-1. I get 192k with the UMC-1: Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedWith the XMC-1 only 96k: Attachment DeletedThe WD player specifications: WD spec.bmp (1002 KB) Why would the UMC-1 work with 192K and not the XMC-1? |
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Aug 28, 2014 20:57:33 GMT -5
The reasoning behind the multi-channel modes is very simple. This is a multichannel processor and although it works equally well in two channel applications, its primary design function was for multichannel. That being said, like all multichannel processors you have to define how many speakers you have. Also, the reason it defaults to multichannel modes when your speaker config is for multichannel, is because the majority of tech calls we get are from people who simply state, I have X number of speakers and I want them all to play, so that is why it is set up out of the box to play in all speakers, depending on how many speakers you have. Lonnie As soon as I had it hooked up I played a CD and started scratching my head because it was using all the speakers. I went in and looked and it was set to auto so I just changed it to direct. Thought it was a sw glitch, but now I know. Only took a few seconds to figure out and change. If that's what you're talking about here. After I install Dirac I'll most likely switch to 2.0 with correction. |
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Post by darien87 on Aug 29, 2014 9:27:03 GMT -5
I can confirm that the XMC misses the first bit of music when playing a new audio stream.
Last night I was playing some MP3's from my PS3 and it takes the XMC about 2 seconds to lock on to the audio stream and start playing so you miss about the first second of the first track. With the UMC you would lose almost 2 seconds so they have indeed improved the audio lock on time but the delay is still there, (down from about 2 seconds to about 1 second).
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Post by viper6 on Aug 30, 2014 0:16:54 GMT -5
Reporting what I think is a bug. When playing normal Redbook CD's from my BDP-93 via HDMI connection, with the BDP-93 reporting 16 bit as expected, the XMC-1 reports the audio stream as 2 channel PCM 24 bit.
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Post by edrummereasye on Aug 30, 2014 5:36:36 GMT -5
Reporting what I think is a bug. When playing normal Redbook CD's from my BDP-93 via HDMI connection, with the BDP-93 reporting 16 bit as expected, the XMC-1 reports the audio stream as 2 channel PCM 24 bit. Confirmed this also happens with BDP-95 as source (also over HDMI). I just tried it using an old copy of "Workingman's Dead", which I confirmed is NOT HDCD-encoded like the newer Rhino stuff (this copy is probably from the early days of CDs, say 1987 give or take a few years, when I was going to a lot of Dead shows (as opposed to more recently, going to a lot of Furthur/Ratdog/PLF shows  ...only date on the cover is 1970, which is when the vinyl was released...) I just got my XMC hooked up last night, don't have optical or coax from the Oppo, but I can throw some spare cables in and see if it occurs with those connections, as well... Damn, need to overhaul my .sig now... |
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Post by edrummereasye on Aug 30, 2014 6:39:47 GMT -5
Think I'm seeing some oddities with surround modes "sticking"...I have my BDP-95 set up on HDMI2, video and audio via HDMI. I had set so a 2.0 signal would be processed (or not) as "Reference Stereo". After bitstreaming a multichannel SACD, I put in a Redbook CD...it came up as "PCM 2.0" --> "Dolby PLIIx Cinema" IIRC...went into the Input Setup menu, it still showed "Reference Stereo" as the choice...backed out, and the display said "Reference Stereo". Thought I had seen a couple other things where the setting didn't "stick" or wasn't applied during setup, but I could be wrong...the first time, I had set up HDMI1, but didn't realize they were numbered "backwards"...after actually plugging something IN to HDMI1, I went back to the menu, but my settings for 2.0 and multi-channel were gone...note, I had done a full power-down prior to moving HDMI cables around; and in this case, it appeared the settings I made were "lost", whereas in the previous case, I believe they remained, but weren't applied. Other settings, I haven't noticed an issue with, thus far. Will edit this post if I notice it again, and/or try and succeed at re-producing it.
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Post by wizardofoz on Aug 30, 2014 9:29:30 GMT -5
I have seen many times the Audio sicking on HDMI when it should be Analogue and vise versa. often a full power cycle fixes it.
HINT ... When naming inputs you can use the enter key to exit the editing line quickly rather than push the left arrow button repeatedly
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Post by Vermont99 on Aug 30, 2014 9:55:53 GMT -5
I do not know if this is a problem. When setting the speaker level for my sub the XMC-1 also sends the single to my mains which are set to large. The only way to stop this is to set my L/R mains to small, then set the sub level then switch the mains back to large. I only use my sub for movies. I do not remember this happening with the UMC and its too much work to reconnect the UMC too test it.
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Post by iknowdoyou on Aug 30, 2014 12:07:51 GMT -5
Has anyone with an HDMI-based Mac Mini run into an issue where if the Mac Mini hasn't been used for a length of time, its HDMI connection is dead when that input is selected. I have disabled all Energy Saver features on the Mac, and the issue doesn't present itself if we're talking hours or even a day or two. If it's more than a few days, though, nothing is transmitted to the XMC-1 (the screen is black, and audio is nonexistent), and the only solution is to hard power-off the Mac and turn it back on.
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Post by wizardofoz on Aug 30, 2014 12:45:40 GMT -5
OK The HDMI does not support or if it does its not telling it like it is...  Also after a full non pass thru shutdown for say 12 hours when I turn everything back on (no triggers) my amps on first I get a massive THUMP out the speakers as the XMC comes live....any ideas? Anyone else get this? |
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Post by wizardofoz on Aug 30, 2014 12:48:12 GMT -5
Sorry been a bit tied up so will have go back and update the last few days of bugs and observations
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Post by viper6 on Aug 30, 2014 19:04:15 GMT -5
OK, I hooked up my BDP-93 with Toslink, and the XMC-1 is also reporting the stream from a Redbook CD (16bit) as 24 bit over the optical Toslink from the OPPO just as it does over HDMI. This is making me wonder if OPPO does something to the signal that trips up the XMC-1 in it's current firmware state.
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Post by doc1963 on Aug 30, 2014 19:27:43 GMT -5
OK, I hooked up my BDP-93 with Toslink, and the XMC-1 is also reporting the stream from a Redbook CD (16bit) as 24 bit over the optical Toslink from the OPPO just as it does over HDMI. This is making me wonder if OPPO does something to the signal that trips up the XMC-1 in it's current firmware state. This is a display bug and has been reported. Emotiva is aware and it will be fixed in the next firmware release. Seems the display "never" reports anything other than "24 bit" resolution, but the sampling frequency report is accurate. |
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Post by viper6 on Aug 30, 2014 20:08:05 GMT -5
OK, I hooked up my BDP-93 with Toslink, and the XMC-1 is also reporting the stream from a Redbook CD (16bit) as 24 bit over the optical Toslink from the OPPO just as it does over HDMI. This is making me wonder if OPPO does something to the signal that trips up the XMC-1 in it's current firmware state. This is a display bug and has been reported. Emotiva is aware and it will be fixed in the next firmware release. Seems the display "never" reports anything other than "24 bit" resolution, but the sampling frequency report is accurate. That is not entirely true, as I have seen numerous audio streams, from my Dish receiver for instance, that are reported as 16 bit. |
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