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Post by restless on Oct 2, 2014 14:40:37 GMT -5
I just got a notice about a new walkman HD player. Looks interesting: store.sony.com/64-gb-hi-res-walkman-digital-music-player-zid27-NWZA17SLV/cat-27-catid-All-MP3-Players?_t=pfm%3Dcategory64Gb internal, and up to 128Gb cards can be added. Audio Format(s) Supported : MP3: 32-320 kbps (incl. VBR) at 32, 44.1, and 48 kHz WMA: 32-192 kbps (incl. VBR) at 44.1 kHz FLAC: at 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, and 192 kHz L-PCM: at 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, and 192 kHz AAC: 16-320 kbps (incl. VBR) at 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, and 48 kHz HE-AAC: 32-144 kbps at 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, and 48 kHz ALAC: 16-24 bit at 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, and 192 kHz AIFF: 16-24 bit at 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, and 192 kHz At $299, may be tempting. |
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Post by GreenKiwi on Oct 2, 2014 15:13:57 GMT -5
looks like everyone wants in on the game...
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Post by knucklehead on Oct 2, 2014 15:21:05 GMT -5
Seems to have all the right specs. The trouble with that is all those iphones/ipads/ipods etc etc. And many of those iphones/ipads/ipods play 96k mp3s (oooohhh - you can get more on a gig of memory!) go home and get plugged into some crappy little player with 3" 'full range' speakers - sans a sub - and those people think how great life is! That hi res player won't make those 3" 'full range' speakers sound any better. I'm not sure there is a big market for a dedicated player these days like there was 10 years ago.
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Post by djoel on Oct 2, 2014 15:30:48 GMT -5
looks like everyone wants in on the game... I thought I read Apple wants stop making Ipods, most people use their cell for music. I like having two separate units, one to make calls and have my pictures in and the other strictly for tunes.. I'm intrigued. Djoel |
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Post by chaosrv on Oct 2, 2014 15:38:31 GMT -5
I think, one of the deciding factors with this device will be getting the files onto the player. If it can appear in the OS as a removable storage device making drag & drop and folder creation easy, then it has a chance for success. If, however, it becomes bogged down but a uselessly cumbersome software interface then it could be DOA.
Unfortunately, I'm guessing the latter will be true...and it will get tied to the Playstation Network for some silly reason.
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Post by hemster on Oct 2, 2014 16:11:12 GMT -5
Interesting. At least they didn't go only with Memory Stick - their proprietary card format.
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Post by KeithL on Oct 2, 2014 16:31:31 GMT -5
I agree 100% there..... If you can simply copy the files into a folder and play them, then it'll be worth looking at. But, if you have to install some crummy software, then "synch" the device to it, I wouldn't take it as a gift. (I've already got an iPod classic sitting on the shelf that I don't use because I really hate iTunes...) It would also have been nice if it had a DIGITAL OUTPUT - so you could bypass the internal DACs and connect it to your stereo. Ahh, well....  Keith I think, one of the deciding factors with this device will be getting the files onto the player. If it can appear in the OS as a removable storage device making drag & drop and folder creation easy, then it has a chance for success. If, however, it becomes bogged down but a uselessly cumbersome software interface then it could be DOA. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the latter will be true...and it will get tied to the Playstation Network for some silly reason. |
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Post by djoel on Oct 2, 2014 19:05:25 GMT -5
I agree 100% there..... If you can simply copy the files into a folder and play them, then it'll be worth looking at. But, if you have to install some crummy software, then "synch" the device to it, I wouldn't take it as a gift. (I've already got an iPod classic sitting on the shelf that I don't use because I really hate iTunes...) It would also have been nice if it had a DIGITAL OUTPUT - so you could bypass the internal DACs and connect it to your stereo. Ahh, well.... Keith I think, one of the deciding factors with this device will be getting the files onto the player. If it can appear in the OS as a removable storage device making drag & drop and folder creation easy, then it has a chance for success. If, however, it becomes bogged down but a uselessly cumbersome software interface then it could be DOA. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the latter will be true...and it will get tied to the Playstation Network for some silly reason. I would buy an Emo-portable player in heart beat with the above specs, more so one designed to be integrated with the rest of my Emo gear! Dan |
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Post by Axis on Oct 3, 2014 15:05:14 GMT -5
I agree 100% there..... If you can simply copy the files into a folder and play them, then it'll be worth looking at. But, if you have to install some crummy software, then "synch" the device to it, I wouldn't take it as a gift. (I've already got an iPod classic sitting on the shelf that I don't use because I really hate iTunes...) It would also have been nice if it had a DIGITAL OUTPUT - so you could bypass the internal DACs and connect it to your stereo. Ahh, well.... Keith I think, one of the deciding factors with this device will be getting the files onto the player. If it can appear in the OS as a removable storage device making drag & drop and folder creation easy, then it has a chance for success. If, however, it becomes bogged down but a uselessly cumbersome software interface then it could be DOA. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the latter will be true...and it will get tied to the Playstation Network for some silly reason.
"Building a music library on the Walkman A17 is also easy. Users can just drag and drop files from their PC"
Walkman® NWZ-A17 Hi-Res Audio Digital Music Player
With 64GB of internal memory and 128GB MicroSD card for total of 192GB, sounds like enough for me and you could put different libraries on different cards. I just got through ripping my CD's with dBpoweramp to FLAC and using JRiver Media Center 20 and have been waiting for the Sony NWZ-ZX1 with 128GB to come to the US but this NWZ-A17 looks like a better deal @ $300.
Keith, could you guys make a good affordable portable DAP ?
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Post by djoel on Oct 3, 2014 15:23:14 GMT -5
What's the advantage of ripping music with dbpoweramp, instead of Jriver? I know it can help with scratch cds and such, but it sounds like an extra step to be done. Don't know,surely I'm wrong with my thinking.
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Post by Axis on Oct 4, 2014 8:59:21 GMT -5
What's the advantage of ripping music with dbpoweramp, instead of Jriver? I know it can help with scratch cds and such, but it sounds like an extra step to be done. Don't know,surely I'm wrong with my thinking. Djoel
The reason I chose to use dbpoweramp for ripping was to be confident that everything was good and AccurateRip flagged any errors. If a CD is too damaged dbpoweramp will reject it.
www.dbpoweramp.com/secure-ripper.htm
There was a good discussion on this recent Thread :
emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/671797/thread
This was my favorite post. " GET IT! "
I completely formatted the hard drive and re ripped with the default settings and now what'll you say I think is true, there are enters pointing to the same music file, Two or three of them pointing because I reloaded the HD instead of repopulating it. This makes a lot of sence but at this journey I'm way beyond the ability to mess with it at this moment. I would stay up half the night getting frustrated and I have to work in the morning. This may be a job for when I have time to mess with it. Tomorrow or Sunday afternoon. Starting a thread here at Emo is so great because we trust our friends on this site and were all here to help each other. Plus I find the wiki and forum at JRivers just so daunting and near impossible to navigate quickly or at all. Shoot, I'm still learning how to use this site,,,,,,,no cracks about OL dogs and such please,,,,,he,,,,,he,,,,,, Wow, just looked at the clock!, Thank-you so very much and I look forward to future visits to your new thread when you start it up, digital is still new for this analog kind of guy!! For ripping I'd take a look at dbPowerAmp as it has all kinds of batch ripping abilities and these DSP plug features that includes automatic playlist generation as well as meta replay gain and EBU R128. Meta replay gain on both a track and album level is a MUST if you wish to have playlists from different albums that all play at the same level. What JRiver is for playback dbPoweramp is for ripping! GET IT! |
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Post by Priapulus on Oct 4, 2014 9:06:38 GMT -5
And what does it do, that my iPhone (or any other phone) doesn't? This is a device that was obsolete 5 years ago. Sony, a company I once loved, has gone from an innovator, to a company intent on repeating it's past; and becoming irrelevant and nearly bankrupt. It's very sad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 9:18:04 GMT -5
And what does it do, that my iPhone (or any other phone) doesn't? This is a device that was obsolete 5 years ago. Sony, a company I once loved, has gone from an innovator, to a company intent on repeating it's past; and becoming irrelevant and nearly bankrupt. It's very sad. Sincerely /b There's always the PS4 :\ They should throw in another proprietary format while they are at it ie DAT, minidisc, etc. Oh and some custom cables that nobody else makes. Sounds like a winner to me. |
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Post by autiger on Oct 4, 2014 9:21:52 GMT -5
I agree 100% there..... If you can simply copy the files into a folder and play them, then it'll be worth looking at. But, if you have to install some crummy software, then "synch" the device to it, I wouldn't take it as a gift. (I've already got an iPod classic sitting on the shelf that I don't use because I really hate iTunes...) It would also have been nice if it had a DIGITAL OUTPUT - so you could bypass the internal DACs and connect it to your stereo. Ahh, well.... Keith I think, one of the deciding factors with this device will be getting the files onto the player. If it can appear in the OS as a removable storage device making drag & drop and folder creation easy, then it has a chance for success. If, however, it becomes bogged down but a uselessly cumbersome software interface then it could be DOA. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the latter will be true...and it will get tied to the Playstation Network for some silly reason. ibasso - drag and drop to internal memory or to card (set up folders etc) and yes it does have a digital out, line out and phones out and it's only $200-240+card and includes connectors and a rubber case.  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 4, 2014 10:16:25 GMT -5
And what does it do, that my iPhone (or any other phone) doesn't? This is a device that was obsolete 5 years ago. Sony, a company I once loved, has gone from an innovator, to a company intent on repeating it's past; and becoming irrelevant and nearly bankrupt. It's very sad. Sincerely /b That's generally my feeling, but even the iPhone 6 won't play Hi-Rez files. When I got my 128GB iPhone 6 I switched my sync format to ALAC, at which point it rejected my 96/24 files it had previously synced when I converted them to AAC. If you want a portable Hi-Rez player the iPhone isn't it.  An interesting side note, while waiting to pickup my iPhone at BestBuy many of us chatted in line to pass the time. One guy turned out to be an audiophile who had gotten in on the Pono Kickstarter, he was looking forward to receiving it soon. So there is a market for HRA players, hopefully Apple will eventually get the message with the iPhone 6S or 7, as well as in the iTunes Store. |
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Post by Axis on Oct 4, 2014 13:33:19 GMT -5
"so if you want to sit outside under a tree looking real cool, get yourself one of these"  |
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Post by Axis on Oct 22, 2014 14:31:23 GMT -5
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Post by Nodscene on Oct 23, 2014 10:22:08 GMT -5
There are quite a few players out in the market for HiRez audio so I'm not really excited about the Sony. Actually, due to all their BS with proprietary formats etc I won't buy anything Sony unless there is no other choice.
As I'm limited in budget, I'm going to go with the Fiio X1 for $100, basically does everything I need that the Sony does but at an affordable price. If I had more money then I'd go with their X3 or X5 or look at the other contenders out there.
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Post by pop on Oct 23, 2014 12:54:00 GMT -5
I would jump on a Emotiva portable player in 2 seconds as well. Could be a really great sell for the company. |
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Post by Axis on Oct 23, 2014 12:55:20 GMT -5
There are quite a few players out in the market for HiRez audio so I'm not really excited about the Sony. Actually, due to all their BS with proprietary formats etc I won't buy anything Sony unless there is no other choice. As I'm limited in budget, I'm going to go with the Fiio X1 for $100, basically does everything I need that the Sony does but at an affordable price. If I had more money then I'd go with their X3 or X5 or look at the other contenders out there. This thing is going to be perfect for me. It weighs 66 grams (2.4 oz.). That is very light. I just ripped all me cd's to FLAC so they are cd quality files. No plans to buy any Hi Res files, just want to listen to cd quality on the go. I will load 64 GB of my must have on the unit and get a 128 GB SD-card to load various other files on. I should get about 40 hours of battery life out of a complete charge and that will be very nice for someone like me that enjoys listening to music for hours at a time. I take a 5 mile walk every day and battery life is important to me. Not going to be using the Bluetooth that much if any. I have some Shure se215's that are 20 ohms and should work great with the 10 + 10 MW output. I am going to turn it on, select what I want to hear, press play, stick this little thing in my pocket and be happy ! No more mp3 compressed files on my portable ! Hard button controls for everything ! And I have no doubt that I will enjoy the sound quality ! |
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