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Post by vneal on Oct 20, 2014 18:38:25 GMT -5
I have never owned the Maggies but have heard them sound VERY MUSICAL ALWAYS. Usually they need to be further out from the walls. If rock music is your thing a good sub is siggested. And they look cool
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Post by flatpicker on Oct 20, 2014 18:56:37 GMT -5
since this hobby is the proverbial rabbit hole, the MMG's is probably all I can swing. the next step (1.7 0r 12) are 2 to 3 times the $$$ Then be sure to get the "super mmg's" with 2 bass panels... I got them with only 1 bass panel and regretted it...
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Post by fyrn on Oct 21, 2014 17:27:48 GMT -5
How well do they take volume? Can you turn this thing up or is low/mid levels best
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 21, 2014 17:38:33 GMT -5
How well do they take volume? Can you turn this thing up or is low/mid levels best I think it depends in the amp driving them. I was able to get 101db for music. from my listening position and that was around 8 feet away. But like I mentioned, in my experience, these speakers are best suitabe for critical listening. If you crank them and walk around the house doing others things you are not going to enjoy what they can offer.
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Post by mgbpuff on Oct 21, 2014 18:04:01 GMT -5
Magnaplanars do not act like point source as do cone speakers. Cone speakers produce an expanding spheroid envelope that loses sound pressure inversely to the square of the distance from the source point. Planars project a plane of sound toward the listener that does not expand as it goes outward (normal listening distances of course). Therefore the planar does not have to be driven as loud to reach the same db level at the listener. I have Maggie 3.6Rs driven by XPA-1s and I love them. The sound flows throughout the house better than my cone speakers.
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 21, 2014 18:09:18 GMT -5
Mind you that the clean 101db I was getting with the magnepans was accomplished with a 300 wpc stereo amp.
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Post by mgbpuff on Oct 21, 2014 18:20:37 GMT -5
Mind you I am talking about the propagation waveform. Yes the Maggies are inefficient, that's another subject.
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Post by solidstate on Oct 21, 2014 18:35:35 GMT -5
Tiny listening window with rather poor dynamics sums up my thoughts regarding Magnepans.
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 21, 2014 18:46:33 GMT -5
Tiny listening window with rather poor dynamics sums up my thoughts regarding Magnepans. Well, if what you want is a speaker that will allow you to listen to them while you walk around any speaker out there will fill the bill nicely. Once I am in the "sweet spot" I feel no desire to even move my head....YMMV
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Post by fyrn on Oct 21, 2014 19:16:06 GMT -5
Tiny listening window with rather poor dynamics sums up my thoughts regarding Magnepans. Well, if what you want is a speaker that will allow you to listen to them while you walk around any speaker out there will fill the bill nicely. Once I am in the "sweet spot" I feel no desire to even move my head....YMMV So are you saying this are like the old LCD TV's...if you moved more than 3-5 feet from the center you couldn't make anything out?
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Post by tahoebum on Oct 21, 2014 19:24:17 GMT -5
Tiny listening window with rather poor dynamics sums up my thoughts regarding Magnepans. Maggies have always been a love 'em or hate 'em speaker. I like them because they sound like the real thing and I can't/don't want to spend $30,000 on a pair of Magico S5's or better yet $170,000 on the Q7's. Maybe after I get my kids through college. My Maggie 1.7's sound a lot more lifelike with the type of music I listen to than than many speakers costing 5 times as much. Your ears might hear them differently.
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 21, 2014 20:15:27 GMT -5
Well, if what you want is a speaker that will allow you to listen to them while you walk around any speaker out there will fill the bill nicely. Once I am in the "sweet spot" I feel no desire to even move my head....YMMV So are you saying this are like the old LCD TV's...if you moved more than 3-5 feet from the center you couldn't make anything out? Why would you waste your time watching your favorite show or movie if you are going to be moving around. If you want to be moving around while listening to your favorite tunes just get a nice pair of cans...
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Post by tahoebum on Oct 22, 2014 0:08:07 GMT -5
The MMG's are amazing for the price. I don't know of any other $600 speaker that is even close for lifelike sound. I was shocked when I first got my MMG's a couple years ago and now am a fortunate to have a set of the 1.7's. The best part of my Maggies is they have made me enjoy taking time to listen to music again - something that I didn't do often enough while raising my 3 kids the last 20 years.
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Post by audiobill on Oct 22, 2014 5:52:26 GMT -5
For me, the thing about Maggies is that, set up properly in a decent room, you really do forget about the equipment driving them. The lifelike quality is so compelling, you can "see" the performers and instruments.
Sure, There are drawbacks (efficiency, limited sweet spot), but this quality trumps all that.
Nothing like them near the price.
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Post by Cogito on Oct 22, 2014 6:16:42 GMT -5
Not to mention their uncanny ability to accurately reproduce vocals and the HUGE soundstage they throw!
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Post by bluemeanies on Oct 22, 2014 6:28:02 GMT -5
There are better speakers out there which I would look at first. SALK
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Post by pedrocols on Oct 22, 2014 7:44:12 GMT -5
There are better speakers out there which I would look at first. SALK Those are some very nice speakers but pricey stuff.
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Post by sct on Oct 22, 2014 10:19:28 GMT -5
SolidState wrote: "Tiny listening window with rather poor dynamics sums up my thoughts regarding Magnepans."
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Move 1 foot to the side and the imaging goes to hell. No thanks...
SCT
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Post by bluemeanies on Oct 22, 2014 10:56:29 GMT -5
Those are some very nice speakers but pricey stuff. You are right on both claims. I love the richness of there cabinets but also the quality parts, the crossovers for example that go into the SALK speaker. Can't say I will definitely be purchasing the SALKS but I am seriously making that consideration. I was looking at the VERACITY HT3....$5995.00...with the upgrades I would LIKE to have add another 1K for a grand total of $6995.00. That is a lot of dough in my household also to lay down that kind of money for speakers but I know I can get a good price on my B&W804S speaker which by the way are in pristine condition and are in a smoke free house with a de-clawed cat that never comes near any of my equipment. I expect to only lay out about 5K of my own money which I have $1500.00 saved and the rest will be coming in from some positive cash flow. As you probably know the SALK speaker is not available at your local audio, video stores. They are located in Pontiac Michegan. The only way I could demo these speakers is by going to Michegan or waiting for next years audio shows and experience them at the show. The latter is probably what I will do and bring the Mrs along for a mini vacation. My downfall is that I lack patience and I do have to control myself since these audio shows will not be in some cases another six months. In the meantime I will be doing a lot of listening. As a matter of fact I am suppose to go to STEREO EXCHANGE in New York this Friday with a friend of mine to look at their massive collection of audio equipment. Sorry, I did not mean to HIJACK this thread. My apologies.
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Post by melm on Oct 22, 2014 11:12:02 GMT -5
Not to mention their uncanny ability to accurately reproduce vocals and the HUGE soundstage they throw! As a person who spent years playing, listening, and even conducting live musicians, I love the Maggies. I've tried many different speakers, Focal, B&W 801s, KEF but I always come back. I have the 3.6r's now. I can move to different positions on a long couch and still get precise imaging. I think imaging can be down to room acoustics and set up. People who listen to live music know that even moving around in a live concert hall can greatly change the imaging, enhancing or destroying the illusion. Preferred sound is subjective, and there are a lot of great speakers out there. Still, I love the sound of the Maggies on jazz, vocals, large instrumental and choral, which is the majority of my listening. They also reproduce epic film soundtracks very well in my acoustic environment. The best critics is your ears. Go listen to any of their speakers. Then decide. P.S. My XPA-2 is a really fine match for these speakers, along with my PSA 15" sub. Mel
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