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Post by brubacca on Oct 22, 2014 8:38:17 GMT -5
Is it really necessary?
I have one speaker that I need about a 16 ft run and the other needs a 10ft run. I really don't want to leave 6ft coiled on the floor. What say you all? Buy a matched pair or get one of each length that I need?
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Post by sct on Oct 22, 2014 8:45:02 GMT -5
Do whatever you feel you need to do. Sonically it makes NO difference...
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Post by Cogito on Oct 22, 2014 9:10:09 GMT -5
It won't make an audible difference as the resistance difference is too small. Though, I always keep my cables lengths the same. Here's some useful info... Look Here
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Post by geebo on Oct 22, 2014 9:15:31 GMT -5
If my math is right and assuming the speed of electric current is at or near the speed of light, it would take 6 billionths of a second for the signal to travel the extra 6 feet.
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 22, 2014 9:22:19 GMT -5
Is it really necessary? I have one speaker that I need about a 16 ft run and the other needs a 10ft run. I really don't want to leave 6ft coiled on the floor. What say you all? Buy a matched pair or get one of each length that I need? Just use the different lengths but compensate for that by sitting a little bit closer to the speaker that has the 16 ft. wire.
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Post by Jim on Oct 22, 2014 9:23:16 GMT -5
If my math is right and assuming the speed of electric current is at or near the speed of light, it would take 6 billionths of a second for the signal to travel the extra 6 feet. But I can hear that 6 billionth of a second delay! I swear!
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Post by novisnick on Oct 22, 2014 9:25:18 GMT -5
If my math is right and assuming the speed of electric current is at or near the speed of light, it would take 6 billionths of a second for the signal to travel the extra 6 feet. That statement my friend MUST be snake oil!!!
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Post by igor on Oct 22, 2014 9:25:37 GMT -5
If my math is right and assuming the speed of electric current is at or near the speed of light, it would take 6 billionths of a second for the signal to travel the extra 6 feet. But I can hear that 6 billionth of a second delay! I swear! I don't think anyone claims that is the problem (I hope? =) ), it the difference in resistance that the debate, if any, is about (again, I hope =) )...
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Post by geebo on Oct 22, 2014 9:28:00 GMT -5
But I can hear that 6 billionth of a second delay! I swear! I don't think anyone claims that is the problem (I hope? =) ), it the difference in resistance that the debate, if any, is about (again, I hope =) )... If Jim can hear it that's good enough for me.
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Post by sct on Oct 22, 2014 10:24:04 GMT -5
MM wrote: "Just use the different lengths but compensate for that by sitting a little bit closer to the speaker that has the 16 ft. wire. "
Seriously? I *do* hope you are joking...
SCT - Oooops, never mind! I just now saw the winky emoticon.
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Post by geebo on Oct 22, 2014 10:25:29 GMT -5
MM wrote: "Just use the different lengths but compensate for that by sitting a little bit closer to the speaker that has the 16 ft. wire. " Seriously? I *do* hope you are joking... SCT Oh, if I know monku, he's dead serious.
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Post by repeetavx on Oct 22, 2014 10:26:30 GMT -5
Here's the Audioholics view on unequal lengths. Personally I believe that there is more to the transmission of music electrically, than what we measure with the resistance, capicitance and inductive models.
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Post by Cogito on Oct 22, 2014 10:39:27 GMT -5
If my math is right and assuming the speed of electric current is at or near the speed of light, it would take 6 billionths of a second for the signal to travel the extra 6 feet. Don't forget to consider drift velocities! This is OBVIOUSLY negated by the usage of cable lifters...
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Post by monkumonku on Oct 22, 2014 10:42:25 GMT -5
MM wrote: "Just use the different lengths but compensate for that by sitting a little bit closer to the speaker that has the 16 ft. wire. " Seriously? I *do* hope you are joking... SCT - Oooops, never mind! I just now saw the winky emoticon. Well I was serious but after thinking about it, an easier solution might be to just place one speaker a little closer to your head than the other one. That way if you sit in a big heavy chair that is your favorite spot, you won't have to move it. My bad, I should have thought of that earlier. Or keep the speakers equidistant from your ears but angle one so that the reflections off the walls compensate for the difference in speaker wire lengths. OR, compensate for the speaker wire of different lengths, make the left or right interconnect from the processor to the amp or the source to the processor (depending on which speaker has the longer wire) shorter than the other one.
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Post by geebo on Oct 22, 2014 10:43:43 GMT -5
If my math is right and assuming the speed of electric current is at or near the speed of light, it would take 6 billionths of a second for the signal to travel the extra 6 feet. Don't forget to consider drift velocities! This is OBVIOUSLY negated by the usage of cable lifters... Point taken.
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Post by geebo on Oct 22, 2014 10:45:56 GMT -5
MM wrote: "Just use the different lengths but compensate for that by sitting a little bit closer to the speaker that has the 16 ft. wire. " Seriously? I *do* hope you are joking... SCT - Oooops, never mind! I just now saw the winky emoticon. Well I was serious but after thinking about it, an easier solution might be to just place one speaker a little closer to your head than the other one. That way if you sit in a big heavy chair that is your favorite spot, you won't have to move it. My bad, I should have thought of that earlier. Or keep the speakers equidistant from your ears but angle one so that the reflections off the walls compensate for the difference in speaker wire lengths. OR, compensate for the speaker wire of different lengths, make the left or right interconnect from the processor to the amp or the source to the processor (depending on which speaker has the longer wire) shorter than the other one. You could also submerge the longer one in liquid nitrogen which would make the wire a superconductor and current would then travel faster thru it.
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Post by jackpine on Oct 22, 2014 10:57:29 GMT -5
It won't make an audible difference as the resistance difference is too small. Though, I always keep my cables lengths the same. Here's some useful info... Look HereUsing the DC resistance of copper wire chart from your source I came up with following. Assuming 4 Ohm speakers with 10 and 16 foot cables and 10 gauge wire the amp would see 4.1 Ohms and 4.16 Ohms. With 20 gauge wire 5 Ohms and 5.6 ohms. So with 10 gauge it's insignificant but there is a real difference with very small cables.
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Post by DYohn on Oct 22, 2014 11:46:58 GMT -5
Personally I believe that there is more to the transmission of music electrically, than what we measure with the resistance, capicitance and inductive models. Sorry, but no. Electricity is electricity. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.
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Post by Darksky on Oct 22, 2014 12:57:41 GMT -5
]Sorry, but no. Electricity is electricity. Beliefs have nothing to do with it. You! outta the Pool. 15 minute time out for use of logic.
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 22, 2014 18:27:55 GMT -5
Unless one is using 1.5 ohm speakers & 22 ga. wire, no diff.
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