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Post by taxman2 on Jan 14, 2015 2:54:17 GMT -5
I did the test tones on 40 and 100 Hz - SPL meter shows 84 db on 65db test tone. Actually I like what dirac did and I am very satisfied with that. Just increased the subwoofers levels by 6 db and the picture is perfect for me. Thank you all for your support. By the way I tried with umic mic on the trial version and got a slightly better response. oi57.tinypic.com/2wovktt.jpgFor both 40 and 100? Yes, for both. |
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Post by taxman2 on Jan 14, 2015 6:56:56 GMT -5
I finally found a solution. I ran Dirac LE on 2ch stereo (because my main speakers are causing that hump at 43 and 63 Hz) without subwoofers (they are fine for me without corrections). Then applied the filter to XMC-1 and just added the subwoofers on the settings of Dirac preset. Now I got the perfect match. Bullseye!!
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Post by tubby on Jan 14, 2015 8:21:00 GMT -5
I can't use rew on my mac with emo mic. As you know I use VMware and windows 7 for dirac LE. I even installed rew under windows but still can't figure out how to use the emo mic. I use the cal file from Tony. Something is not right. With umic it works fine. I meant just use rew with the umik. That would let you see the after results from dirac. I see you found a solution you are happy with anyway, excellent. |
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Post by uaeproz on Jan 14, 2015 10:18:36 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm a new owner of XMC-1 and this is my first post here. I tried upgrading the Dirac live to Full and when I click on the "upgrade", it takes me to this page: emotiva.com/dirac/upgradeBut this page does not exist. I'd appreciate some guidance here. Thanks! Abdulla |
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Post by foggy1956 on Jan 14, 2015 10:39:46 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm a new owner of XMC-1 and this is my first post here. I tried upgrading the Dirac live to Full and when I click on the "upgrade", it takes me to this page: emotiva.com/dirac/upgradeBut this page does not exist. I'd appreciate some guidance here. Thanks! Abdulla Dirac upgrade is not available yet |
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Post by tunatamer on Jan 14, 2015 10:59:00 GMT -5
I believe there's an upgrade button in the Dirac software as well but I haven't tried it.
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Post by uaeproz on Jan 14, 2015 10:59:30 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm a new owner of XMC-1 and this is my first post here. I tried upgrading the Dirac live to Full and when I click on the "upgrade", it takes me to this page: emotiva.com/dirac/upgradeBut this page does not exist. I'd appreciate some guidance here. Thanks! Abdulla Dirac upgrade is not available yet Thanks Man for the swift response. Any idea when this upgrade would be available though? |
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Post by chaosrv on Jan 14, 2015 11:10:48 GMT -5
Dirac upgrade is not available yet Thanks Man for the swift response. Any idea when this upgrade would be available though? Call Emotiva and ask. They would be the only ones that would know that information. So far all that has been said is "soon" |
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Post by taxman2 on Jan 14, 2015 11:21:51 GMT -5
This upgrade will cost you $ 99 when available.
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Post by barrak on Jan 14, 2015 11:40:32 GMT -5
I finally found a solution. I ran Dirac LE on 2ch stereo (because my main speakers are causing that hump at 43 and 63 Hz) without subwoofers (they are fine for me without corrections). Then applied the filter to XMC-1 and just added the subwoofers on the settings of Dirac preset. Now I got the perfect match. Bullseye!! I don't wanna second guess your preferences as your ears should be the final authority. However, I think you've missed the point raised by tubby above (22 hours ago, I wish this forum would number the posts). To reiterate, when you use a sub, set your mains to small and specify a xover point, XMC-1 dismisses Dirac corrections on your mains below the xover point and on your sub above it. If I remember correctly, your room modes are huge and are seriously muddying your bass response. Keep experimenting... once you hear clean and agile (fast) bass with the right level, you'll never tolerate room modes boom again. |
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Post by foggy1956 on Jan 14, 2015 12:03:01 GMT -5
I finally found a solution. I ran Dirac LE on 2ch stereo (because my main speakers are causing that hump at 43 and 63 Hz) without subwoofers (they are fine for me without corrections). Then applied the filter to XMC-1 and just added the subwoofers on the settings of Dirac preset. Now I got the perfect match. Bullseye!! I don't wanna second guess your preferences as your ears should be the final authority. However, I think you've missed the point raised by tubby above (22 hours ago, I wish this forum would number the posts). To reiterate, when you use a sub, set your mains to small and specify a xover point, XMC-1 dismisses Dirac corrections on your mains below the xover point and on your sub above it. If I remember correctly, your room modes are huge and are seriously muddying your bass response. Keep experimenting... once you hear clean and agile (fast) bass with the right level, you'll never tolerate room modes boom again. I believe the sub high pass crossover is set at 110 hz |
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Post by taxman2 on Jan 14, 2015 13:37:15 GMT -5
This time I am really satisfied with the corrections. I've tried all possible options (small speakers - crossovers from 50 to 80Hz), large speakers, dual subs, stereo subs, moving speakers subs around....Nothing was good. I keep all filters and it is not a problem to load a filter and compare. I don't think Dirac is doing a great job on subwoofers, not with XMC-1. My final try I ran Dirac on 2ch stereo large speakers, no subs and saved the filter. Then I reset XMC-1 to factory settings. Set Dirac 2ch large speakers and stereo subs enhanced and uploaded the filter. Result was amazing. Then manually play with my subs crossovers and levels. Maybe when the full version is available I could try more options.
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Post by KeithL on Jan 14, 2015 14:24:26 GMT -5
We have a relatively final beta version in house, and it seems to be working fine, so expect it to be released within a few weeks.  Thanks Man for the swift response. Any idea when this upgrade would be available though? Call Emotiva and ask. They would be the only ones that would know that information. So far all that has been said is "soon" |
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Post by pmd918 on Mar 1, 2015 11:33:35 GMT -5
Keith (or others),
Not sure what "it seems to be working fine" means. Is the full version going to address this issue with multiple subs and Dirac? I ordered an XMC-1 last week and run two subs. I just want to know if I should go ahead and order a miniDSP or not. If this sub issue is fixed, I don't really want to spend the extra money.
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Post by ansat on Mar 1, 2015 19:39:20 GMT -5
Keith (or others), Not sure what "it seems to be working fine" means. Is the full version going to address this issue with multiple subs and Dirac? I ordered an XMC-1 last week and run two subs. I just want to know if I should go ahead and order a miniDSP or not. If this sub issue is fixed, I don't really want to spend the extra money. As far as what I know about diracs product line. Unison will be the only product to address sprayer interactions with other speakers. Tony |
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Post by ansat on Mar 1, 2015 19:40:19 GMT -5
Keith (or others), Not sure what "it seems to be working fine" means. Is the full version going to address this issue with multiple subs and Dirac? I ordered an XMC-1 last week and run two subs. I just want to know if I should go ahead and order a miniDSP or not. If this sub issue is fixed, I don't really want to spend the extra money. but since it's already march, it wouldn't hurt to wait a little longer. (Though, I really like my 2x4 minidsp) |
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Post by pmd918 on Mar 1, 2015 20:13:21 GMT -5
Keith (or others), Not sure what "it seems to be working fine" means. Is the full version going to address this issue with multiple subs and Dirac? I ordered an XMC-1 last week and run two subs. I just want to know if I should go ahead and order a miniDSP or not. If this sub issue is fixed, I don't really want to spend the extra money. but since it's already march, it wouldn't hurt to wait a little longer. (Though, I really like my 2x4 minidsp) Probably, but I've been tweaking with my system for so long I'm at the point that I really need a break. I really want to hook everything up in it's final configuration when my XMC-1 shows up. So I'd rather have the miniDSP, if needed, rather than wait. But since you have one - do you have the balanced or unbalanced version? Every time the subject of balanced vs. unbalanced comes up it seems like the techies jump in to point out that the XMC-1 (and most other HT products) aren't "truly balanced". I don't really understand all that, which is why I ask the question. I'm guessing it probably doesn't matter? |
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Post by ansat on Mar 1, 2015 20:23:52 GMT -5
but since it's already march, it wouldn't hurt to wait a little longer. (Though, I really like my 2x4 minidsp) Probably, but I've been tweaking with my system for so long I'm at the point that I really need a break. I really want to hook everything up in it's final configuration when my XMC-1 shows up. So I'd rather have the miniDSP, if needed, rather than wait. But since you have one - do you have the balanced or unbalanced version? Every time the subject of balanced vs. unbalanced comes up it seems like the techies jump in to point out that the XMC-1 (and most other HT products) aren't "truly balanced". I don't really understand all that, which is why I ask the question. I'm guessing it probably doesn't matter? I have the unbalanced version. Unless your having some noise issues, then unbalanced is plenty good enough. Tony |
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Post by geebo on Mar 1, 2015 20:48:41 GMT -5
Probably, but I've been tweaking with my system for so long I'm at the point that I really need a break. I really want to hook everything up in it's final configuration when my XMC-1 shows up. So I'd rather have the miniDSP, if needed, rather than wait. But since you have one - do you have the balanced or unbalanced version? Every time the subject of balanced vs. unbalanced comes up it seems like the techies jump in to point out that the XMC-1 (and most other HT products) aren't "truly balanced". I don't really understand all that, which is why I ask the question. I'm guessing it probably doesn't matter? I have the unbalanced version. Unless your having some noise issues, then unbalanced is plenty good enough. Tony I have the balanced version mainly because I already had balanced cables run for the subs. I wouldn't have had any problem going with the unbalanced version if it weren't for that. I believe the unbalanced version can use USB for power but the balanced version requires a 12v adapter. |
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Post by pmd918 on Mar 2, 2015 12:02:52 GMT -5
Keith (or others), Not sure what "it seems to be working fine" means. Is the full version going to address this issue with multiple subs and Dirac? I ordered an XMC-1 last week and run two subs. I just want to know if I should go ahead and order a miniDSP or not. If this sub issue is fixed, I don't really want to spend the extra money. I talked to Emotiva tech support this morning and it seems that there are not going to be any changes w.r.t. this multiple sub issue in the new firmware or the full Dirac release. I believe it's fair to say that they believe the way multiple subs are currently being handled is satisfactory. And it probably is for most people. That said, I think I'll wait anyway and see what happens. I'll likely end up getting the miniDSP. |
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