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Post by aud on Nov 24, 2014 8:53:59 GMT -5
Directional cables were originally developed to resolve a ground loop hum when hooking up a subwoofer or other separate amplifiers. Nobody here is saying they will improve sound other than possibly removing the very annoying hum while listening to music. Monster was and will always be about marketing. You can buy these directional cables like many other good cables at a very reasonable price.
One more time, they were originally developed to remove a ground loop hum! You try them because you are having a ground loop problem.
Audioquest and long grain BS is for another discussion.
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Post by Priapulus on Nov 24, 2014 9:18:33 GMT -5
> what does the sticker directional arrow on the cable mean?
It means you've spent too much money for the cable. Sincerely /b
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Post by aud on Nov 24, 2014 9:40:23 GMT -5
Would I buy a directional cable in hopes of improving the sound quality of my system? Hell no! Would I think about trying them to fix a ground loop hum? Hell yes, but it wouldn't be Monster. Like I said before these cables are available at very reasonable prices.
Read the Link I posted yesterday and now I see someone else posted the same Link today.
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Post by linvincible on Nov 24, 2014 10:25:43 GMT -5
Would I buy a directional cable in hopes of improving the sound quality of my system? Hell no! Would I think about trying them to fix a ground loop hum? Hell yes, but it wouldn't be Monster. Like I said before these cables are available at very reasonable prices. Read the Link I posted yesterday and now I see someone else posted the same Link today. yes sorry didn't remember where I got it from ;o)
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Post by Priapulus on Nov 24, 2014 10:30:09 GMT -5
A properly shielded RCA cable uses three conductors: signal, ground and shield (also called SDW cable.) So no, although it is the same theory as in an XLR cable. The shield and ground are tied together at one end.
Given that an RCA plug only has two terminations: the center pin and the ground shell, I'd be curious how the three wires are connected... Sincerely /b
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 24, 2014 10:37:37 GMT -5
A properly shielded RCA cable uses three conductors: signal, ground and shield (also called SDW cable.) So no, although it is the same theory as in an XLR cable. The shield and ground are tied together at one end.
Given that an RCA plug only has two terminations: the center pin and the ground shell, I'd be curious how the three wires are connected... Sincerely /b
It was described in several posts, but Boomzilla also posted a diagram Here.
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Post by DYohn on Nov 24, 2014 12:10:09 GMT -5
Serious answer: the arrow points to the end where the shield is connected to the ground (outer ring of an RCA cable.) This end should be connected to the load, not to the source, to best help eliminate ground loops. It has absolutely nothing to do with "directionality" of signal flow as this does not exist in audio. Are you saying that the arrow should be connected to the AVR and not to the sub? Connected to the load. In your case, the subwoofer amplifier input.
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Post by aud on Nov 24, 2014 13:55:50 GMT -5
Would I buy a directional cable in hopes of improving the sound quality of my system? Hell no! Would I think about trying them to fix a ground loop hum? Hell yes, but it wouldn't be Monster. Like I said before these cables are available at very reasonable prices. Read the Link I posted yesterday and now I see someone else posted the same Link today. yes sorry didn't remember where I got it from ;o) No problem!! It help to make my point.
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Post by rod on Nov 24, 2014 17:23:03 GMT -5
In the case of DC1 to AVR, where should the directional arrow go to? Is it from DC1 going to AVR or the other way around?
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Post by DYohn on Nov 24, 2014 18:07:31 GMT -5
In the case of DC1 to AVR, where should the directional arrow go to? Is it from DC1 going to AVR or the other way around? The bottom line is if you have no ground loops it really doesn't matter, but convention says the shield connected end (the end the arrow point toward) goes to the LOAD. Audio signals are produced from a source and used by a load. You appear to be sending a signal FROM some source like a computer or a CD transport TO the DCI and then feeding that output TO a receiver. Correct? So, between the DC1 and the AVR, the DC1 is the source and the AVR is the load. Follow?
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Post by rod on Nov 24, 2014 19:09:42 GMT -5
In the case of DC1 to AVR, where should the directional arrow go to? Is it from DC1 going to AVR or the other way around? The bottom line is if you have no ground loops it really doesn't matter, but convention says the shield connected end (the end the arrow point toward) goes to the LOAD. Audio signals are produced from a source and used by a load. You appear to be sending a signal FROM some source like a computer or a CD transport TO the DCI and then feeding that output TO a receiver. Correct? So, between the DC1 and the AVR, the DC1 is the source and the AVR is the load. Follow? Yap, with clarity.
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Post by cheapthryl on Nov 24, 2014 20:18:26 GMT -5
LOLO....this a funny thread...lolo you guys!!!! What he said.
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Post by Loop 7 on Nov 24, 2014 20:36:47 GMT -5
If you incorrectly connect the cable or cables, it's very possible your local or even regional power grid could fail.
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Post by Jim on Nov 24, 2014 20:41:14 GMT -5
If you incorrectly connect the cable or cables, it's very possible your local or even regional power grid could fail. Last time I made that mistake, a satellite fell out of orbit.
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