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Post by klinemj on May 18, 2015 19:58:38 GMT -5
I would not...at most I would use Dirac full and a CS UMIK, but no external Dirac gear.
Mark
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Post by novisnick on May 18, 2015 22:13:21 GMT -5
Hi all, looking for some feedback.
I've just run my levels and most of them are at -12.0 at 65db, I don't think this can be correct. Any suggestions?
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Post by dt on May 18, 2015 23:09:12 GMT -5
Nick, I have ran my calibration a few times and the results come back same each time. The LF and RF speakers and one sub at exactly -12 level and the rest at 0.
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Post by 1blinkgone on May 19, 2015 2:45:46 GMT -5
I would not...at most I would use Dirac full and a CS UMIK, but no external Dirac gear. Mark Mark- Thank you sir.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 6:22:20 GMT -5
i thin this has been discussed before...anyone else notice after dirac...the XMC-1 is very loud...what I mean is at 0.0 MV it measures 80db using external cal. disc testtones...whch isnt the problem. the problem is then I listening to movies at -15db is very loud...where on my denon I could watch at -5db....witht the same testones at 0.0 being 80db. thoughts?
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Post by amplifieroverkill on May 21, 2015 12:45:57 GMT -5
Any news yet on the Mac version of the LE ?
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Post by texthai on May 27, 2015 0:32:39 GMT -5
Just a heads up guys, When running the Dirac Live Calibration Tool for FULL DIRAC (I don't know about LE, I have not run it), You cannot have large or medium fonts chosen in your screen resolution setting (Windows 7). If it is, then on the measurement page you will not be able to see nor find the "START" button. And it will very often crash the calibration tool program. I hope this helps some of you, Wish someone had told me. God Bless, Wayne
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Post by sahmen on Jun 4, 2015 20:16:40 GMT -5
I haven't poured over every post on this thread but a quick question,,,,,,,, If I'm using a CS UMIK-1 mic, then I don't need/use the cable that came with the Emo mic. Correct? This is how I take my readings,,,,,just want to make sure there accurate. Thanks. If the CS UMIK-1 can be used in place of the EMM-1, then a correction needs to be made on the first FAQ page, where on finds this Q & A: ************** Can I use my own calibrated microphone?- No, only the EMM-1 and C-Media cable will work. ***************** I also want to use my CS UMIK for the calibration in place of the EMM-1. I seem to have read somewhere that there are the CS UMIK needs to be positioned or configured differently than the EMM-1. Can someone kindly fill me in? (The difference seemed to have something to do with positioning the UMIK at a 90 degree angle, but I am not sure I am explaining that difference correctly. Kindly help if you can). Thanks. By the way, this thread is a wonderful resource. Thanks Ansat.
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Post by ansat on Jun 4, 2015 20:22:18 GMT -5
I haven't poured over every post on this thread but a quick question,,,,,,,, If I'm using a CS UMIK-1 mic, then I don't need/use the cable that came with the Emo mic. Correct? This is how I take my readings,,,,,just want to make sure there accurate. Thanks. If the CS UMIK-1 can be used in place of the EMM-1, then a correction needs to be made on the first FAQ page, where on finds this Q & A: ************** Can I use my own calibrated microphone?- No, only the EMM-1 and C-Media cable will work. ***************** I also want to use my CS UMIK for the calibration in place of the EMM-1. I seem to have read somewhere that there are the CS UMIK needs to be positioned or configured differently than the EMM-1. Can someone kindly fill me in? (The difference seemed to have something to do with positioning the UMIK at a 90 degree angle, but I am not sure I am explaining that difference correctly. Kindly help if you can). Thanks. By the way, this thread is a wonderful resource. Thanks Ansat. Made changes. Can I use my own calibrated microphone? - Only the EMM-1 and C-Media cable will work with Dirac LE. However, you can use your own microphone with Dirac full. If you have dirac full, use the UMIK with a 90 cal file and the pattern and process will mirror the process for the emm1
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Post by sahmen on Jun 4, 2015 20:35:09 GMT -5
Fantastic, and speedy response! Now, if you may permit me to bother you one more time, what is a 90 cal file, and where can I find one?
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Post by ansat on Jun 4, 2015 20:37:27 GMT -5
Fantastic, and speedy response! Now, if you may permit me to bother you one more time, what is a 90 cal file, and where can I find one? www.minidsp.com/products/acoustic-measurement/umik-1Tony Edit :: Sorry for the short answers, I was out to eat when I typed them up. The 90 degree file is designed to be pointed towards the ceiling vs a on axis calibration file (0 degree) that is designed to be pointed towards the speaker. The major difference between the two files is 12khz and above. The files can be found in the above link. you will have to type in your serial number. Let me know if you have more questions. Tony
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Post by sahmen on Jun 4, 2015 20:53:26 GMT -5
Fantastic, and speedy response! Now, if you may permit me to bother you one more time, what is a 90 cal file, and where can I find one? www.minidsp.com/products/acoustic-measurement/umik-1Tony Edit :: Sorry for the short answers, I was out to eat when I typed them up. The 90 degree file is designed to be pointed towards the ceiling vs a on axis calibration file (0 degree) that is designed to be pointed towards the speaker. The major difference between the two files is 12khz and above. The files can be found in the above link. you will have to type in your serial number. Let me know if you have more questions. Tony Got it. Thanks again. You da man!
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Post by sahmen on Jun 5, 2015 13:07:51 GMT -5
Just one more point of clarification: I have downloaded the 90 degree cal file from the minidsp Umik 1 site, as you instructed, but I also have a pre-calibrated UMIK-1 from Cross-Spectrum. I just want to verify and double confirm that the 90 degree cal file is still the option to go with (just in case there is some possibility of some cross interference between the cal specs from Cross spectrum, and those from the 90 degree cal. file). Please consider this as a Noob type of question, as I am not even sure whether the question makes much sense... It is based on the assumption that there should be a cal. file that is specific to the pre-calibrated Cross Spectrum file, which may not be accurate.
Thanks again for all your help.
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Post by ansat on Jun 6, 2015 0:20:47 GMT -5
Just one more point of clarification: I have downloaded the 90 degree cal file from the minidsp Umik 1 site, as you instructed, but I also have a pre-calibrated UMIK-1 from Cross-Spectrum. I just want to verify and double confirm that the 90 degree cal file is still the option to go with (just in case there is some possibility of some cross interference between the cal specs from Cross spectrum, and those from the 90 degree cal. file). Please consider this as a Noob type of question, as I am not even sure whether the question makes much sense... It is based on the assumption that there should be a cal. file that is specific to the pre-calibrated Cross Spectrum file, which may not be accurate. Thanks again for all your help. Cross spectrum would of given you a 90 degree cal file. Use that one. The mic you bought comes batch calibrated from the factory which is where I sent you. If you had CS calibrate a mic for ya, then use the ones they provided as they will be more accurate. Tony
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Post by dmitry on Jun 23, 2015 10:11:20 GMT -5
Hello, everyone. For multichannel digital input signal on XMC-1 there are two modes (exclude Stereo) - Direct and Surround. For any of these modes Dirac filters apply to input signal? Thank for your answer.
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Post by ansat on Jun 28, 2015 19:34:26 GMT -5
Hello, everyone. For multichannel digital input signal on XMC-1 there are two modes (exclude Stereo) - Direct and Surround. For any of these modes Dirac filters apply to input signal? Thank for your answer. Direct will not apply dirac but will apply bass managment, surround and stereo will apply both. Tony
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Post by 134lrs on Jul 1, 2015 12:41:31 GMT -5
I really wish I would have read this thread a week ago, haha.
I am using a new CS calibrated UMIK-1 which appears to be a very nice piece of kit. I will have to look when I get home to see if the 90° Cal file is loaded. If not, I'll have to look into how to do so. Also, I never knew about the AGC setting, which from what I gather from this thread is undoubtedly enabled (I'm running a Windows 8 laptop).
After I ran Dirac (probably with the above issues), dialog was very quiet most notably from my CC. Needless to say, the results were unsatisfying.
To make matters more challenging for Dirac, I am sub-less at the moment while I assemble the my new Dayton UM-18's (x2) and wait for my new iNuke NU6000DSP amp to arrive. So currently I am running a 5.0 setup.
Looks like I have some homework to do tonight.
Thanks,
Bill
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Post by linvincible on Aug 2, 2015 14:51:42 GMT -5
Hello, I'm redoing Dirac setup after buying new front speakers. I'm hitting the same problem I hit before: center channel test tone is 20db higher than front left and right! ACG is off, all speakers set to large. I tested the test tone from XMC-1 menu : the speakers are barely 3 db different I tested with no correction in the speaker setup and then with levels corrected, same result Here are some pictures then that's the test tone I hear when testing front left speaker in Dirac, you see it's below -24 db and this is what I get when testing center speaker, between -12 and -6 db (difference of 20db is found when measuring from XMC-1's own test tone and iPhone SPL) Result of first measurement: as you can see center is MUCH louder... Can someone make any sense of this? It's either clipping on center channel or not loud enough for the setup to complete... Do I have to reset to factoty settings again? what do you think? also, any idea why the front left speaker is re-tested at the end? I get 6 test tones for 5 speakers...
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Post by msamblanet on Aug 2, 2015 18:29:08 GMT -5
also, any idea why the front left speaker is re-tested at the end? I get 6 test tones for 5 speakers... Driac re-scans the front left after all the other measurements - believe it is checking to ensure nothing changed from beginning to end of the calibration - if the FL at the end was different to it at the beginning, then the whole measurement would be suspect.
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Post by linvincible on Aug 3, 2015 2:30:03 GMT -5
ok for the repeat on FL, why not, it's just sad when we want to do it quickly ;o)
What about the +20db on center channel test tone? how can I have test tones at same level again?
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