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Post by lhracing on Jan 30, 2015 13:17:15 GMT -5
I am looking for an inexpensive Blu-Ray player to use with a DC-1 that can play SACD, DVD-A formats. Any input is appreciated.
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Post by broncsrule21 on Jan 30, 2015 13:44:47 GMT -5
Good luck! I will be paying attention to this thread. I have been looking high and low. You will get the obligatory "just pay for the Oppo (which I already have one of). Last years Sonys play SACD but no DVD-audio. There are some used Pioneer Elites out there but not easy to come by. Even a used Oppo BDP-83 goes for $300+ on Ebay.
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 30, 2015 14:02:42 GMT -5
A new blu ray player that also plays SACD's for less than an Oppo 103, sorry I haven't seen one. I think used would be the only option, but even then a used Marantz, Cambridge, Sony, Pioneer, Yamaha etc is going to cost around the same as a new 103. Used Oppos hold their value extremely well, so you might get a 93 for a bit less.
There is a reason why Oppos own the market, no one else can really compete on quality, features and price.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by garbulky on Jan 30, 2015 14:11:12 GMT -5
Sony BDP 5100 can do SACD (but only 48khz for non HDMI). It's about $90. Just a warning, every once in a while it will crash and its GUI is just a little awkward. I think 's the main stumbling block is that most players out there when outputting via non HDMI outputs downsample to 48khz for SACD. As for DVD-A good luck!
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Post by drtrey3 on Jan 30, 2015 14:11:38 GMT -5
Look for used if you want cheaper. That is the state of the market.
Trey
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Post by jcam2881 on Jan 30, 2015 14:15:29 GMT -5
Sony BDP 5100 can do SACD (but only 48khz for non HDMI). It's about $90. Just a warning, every once in a while it will crash and its GUI is just a little awkward. I think 's the main stumbling block is that most players out there when outputting via non HDMI outputs downsample to 48khz for SACD. As for DVD-A good luck! I have that one too- works fine for me. no comparison though to anything else. Do you run that into the DC-1 for CDs? (Or is that long string of connections how you listen to music from your tags?) |
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Post by garbulky on Jan 30, 2015 14:23:31 GMT -5
Sony BDP 5100 can do SACD (but only 48khz for non HDMI). It's about $90. Just a warning, every once in a while it will crash and its GUI is just a little awkward. I think 's the main stumbling block is that most players out there when outputting via non HDMI outputs downsample to 48khz for SACD. As for DVD-A good luck! I have that one too- works fine for me. no comparison though to anything else. Do you run that into the DC-1 for CDs? (Or is that long string of connections how you listen to music from your tags?) Yeah I mainly use the PC for music. But haveo cassionally used the sony to the DC-1 for CD's. I use it more for movies with the DC-1. |
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Post by brubacca on Jan 30, 2015 14:33:27 GMT -5
I love the Oppo, but from the manual:
Due to copyright restrictions and bandwidth
limitations, SACD audio cannot be sent through the
coaxial/optical audio output, and
the high resolution audio on DVD-Audio and Blu-ray discs will
be sent out at reduced resolution.
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Post by geebo on Jan 30, 2015 14:47:30 GMT -5
I love the Oppo, but from the manual: Due to copyright restrictions and bandwidth limitations, SACD audio cannot be sent through the coaxial/optical audio output, and the high resolution audio on DVD-Audio and Blu-ray discs will be sent out at reduced resolution. Nothing different there. No player will send SACD (DSD) content out over coax or Toslink. It's against the licensing. And coax and Toslink just cannot carry Dolby True HD or DTS MA no matter the player. Just not enough bandwidth. So it's not an Oppo limitation but rather a technology limitation. The Oppo can send DSD over HDMI and decoded DSD out the analog outputs. |
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Post by KeithL on Jan 30, 2015 14:49:03 GMT -5
You're right about the downsampling - but it goes further than that. By license requirement, players aren't ALLOWED to put out full quality digital audio from an SACD via any digital output other than HDMI. (Strictly speaking, I believe that " a secure type of connection" is the actual requirement... and HDMI is just the only current one that qualifies. The intent is to prevent direct digital recording of the content on an SACD. This means that you will find that limitation on any current "licensed and legal" player - although there are rumors that some vintage players were non-compliant.) DVD-1 just isn't very popular lately. Sony BDP 5100 can do SACD (but only 48khz for non HDMI). It's about $90. Just a warning, every once in a while it will crash and its GUI is just a little awkward. I think 's the main stumbling block is that most players out there when outputting via non HDMI outputs downsample to 48khz for SACD. As for DVD-A good luck! |
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Post by brubacca on Jan 30, 2015 14:55:23 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong.. I was not slamming the oppo...
I love my player. It is solid and I expect it to last a very long time. I fully recommend anyone who wants to BR player to just save up and get one. They rock. If you don't have the money now, save up.
I have owned Sony/Toshiba DVD players.. I own a secondary SONY BR player and they are toys compared to the Oppo.
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Post by jmilton on Jan 30, 2015 15:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by garbulky on Jan 30, 2015 16:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by lhracing on Jan 30, 2015 19:22:16 GMT -5
Well this was educational, I did not understand the limitations of the coaxial/optical interface. I may have to rethink my recent DC-1 purchase.
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Post by Loop 7 on Jan 30, 2015 19:26:56 GMT -5
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Post by broncsrule21 on Jan 30, 2015 20:18:24 GMT -5
No DVD-audio on that one though. Looks like a quality player.
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Post by gweejcat on Feb 10, 2015 18:21:25 GMT -5
Easy - BDP-62FD Elite. Some are still available at Bestbuy/Magnolia stores, but they aren't listed on their websites.
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