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Post by snafujg on Feb 27, 2015 14:23:15 GMT -5
I guess the price of the XMC-1 with the new HDMI board will stay at $1999 or drop a little bit. So if you can wait, I guess it will pay to wait until the full HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 board is standard. This would be extremely disappointing to me as a current XMC-1 owner. If I had to pay $500 for the HDMI upgrade, that would put my cost at $2500. But someone that buys it with the board installed pays $2000? Is that the cost of being an early adopter? |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Feb 27, 2015 14:31:40 GMT -5
Back to the first post, I'm really, really thrilled about what March will bring to the XMC-1. For me, the XMC-1 was a significant investment, and I (a cheap German  ) am 100% satisfied with that investment! |
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Post by geebo on Feb 27, 2015 14:32:39 GMT -5
Reading the last couple of pages of this thread baffles me. We support and cheer and praise Emotiva for all things XMC-1, especially the upgradability. Then we get additional news on the XMR-1 and what is perceived as a limitation of upgrading the XMC-1, which a member decides to point out, and he is blasted for it? For simply asking that Emotiva honor their upgradability claim beyond what they originally said would be on the XMC-1? (HDMI 2.0, Full Dirac, REW, those are not upgrades, they were part of the product all along. Just not delivered with the initial batch) For all of you that are taking issue with LSC's statements, ask yourself if you'd have the same reaction if Emotiva announced today that the RMC-1 was not going to happen and that the XMC-1 is all the further they were going? Because for some us, the XMC-1 is all the further we can go into our pockets to pay for a processor. All we're asking is for Emotiva to hold true to there statements this processor will be relevant for 10+ years and don't let it go the route of the Theta Casanova that had the same promises that were broken. I don't think "blasted" is the right term and an exaggeration. I've seen "blasted" here and believe me, this ain't blasting. If he was blasted, then he was blasting Emo as well and I don't think either is true. But do you honestly feel Emotiva has a responsibility to add every new feature that comes along in the next ten years especially if it's outside the realm of a 7.2 processor? |
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Post by bestboy on Feb 27, 2015 14:43:17 GMT -5
Regarding the XMC-1 update:
Is there any change in the handling of 2 subwoofers in combination with Dirac? Will the update allow the creation of a subwoofer array (by matching level and delays of all subs) _before_ the Dirac filter is created? Or in other words: Will the update allow for Dirac being applied on a single subwoofer array?
To me this would be way more important than adding more channels, 4k support, HDMI 2.2 and whatnot. IMHO this is essential for a proper .2 integration and the XMC-1 is currently missing out on that.
And before people jump on the bandwagon to add more speakers they should probably think about going from .1 to .2 first. That's usually more of a game changer than just adding more surrounds.
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 27, 2015 14:53:33 GMT -5
Back to the first post, I'm really, really thrilled about what March will bring to the XMC-1. For me, the XMC-1 was a significant investment, and I (a cheap German ) am 100% satisfied with that investment! Same feeling here! And I'm a cheap italian! |
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Post by klinemj on Feb 27, 2015 15:29:48 GMT -5
This would be extremely disappointing to me as a current XMC-1 owner. If I had to pay $500 for the HDMI upgrade, that would put my cost at $2500. But someone that buys it with the board installed pays $2000? Is that the cost of being an early adopter? I think we need to stop speculating that the board will cost so much. You can get entire motherboard with HDMI outs, audio and video circuits and outputs, and usb's and all but the CPU chip for $100. I see no reason to speculate that a mere HDMI board will cost $500. That is 25% of the retail price of an XMC-1. Again, anyone who has a concern on the price should call them instead of getting upset on speculation. Mark |
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Post by Jim on Feb 27, 2015 15:31:41 GMT -5
This would be extremely disappointing to me as a current XMC-1 owner. If I had to pay $500 for the HDMI upgrade, that would put my cost at $2500. But someone that buys it with the board installed pays $2000? Is that the cost of being an early adopter? I think we need to stop speculating that the board will cost so much. You can get entire motherboard with HDMI outs, audio and video circuits and outputs, and usb's and all but the CPU chip for $100. I see no reason to speculate that a mere HDMI board will cost $500. That is 25% of the retail price of an XMC-1. Again, anyone who has a concern on the price should call them instead of getting upset on speculation. Mark I heard through the grapevine that it will cost 1 billion dollars.  |
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Post by Poodleluvr on Feb 27, 2015 15:33:20 GMT -5
I'm very happy with my XMC-1 5 channel set-up. High quality 2 channel is also a high priority for me.
I'll take quality over quantity any day of the week....
I believe the XMC-1 will be in my equipment rack for quite some time. And, when upgrades and mods become available for the XMC-1, I'll be doing that versus purchasing a brand new processor that incorporates additional channels of which I have absolutely no use for. I just can't see paying more for something that I don't use.
"The XMC-1 is all about delivering the the highest quality Surround Sound experience possible from its existing channel configuration." -- Big Dan
"I've got a conventional 7.2 system in my home theater and it sounds very 'three dimensional' to me. I won't be cutting holes in my sweet little room any time soon... Eventually I'll probably think about moving to a 3D implementation, but a lot of water needs to flow under the bridge before I jump into that stream. Too many unknowns at the moment; my hole saw shall remain holstered" -- Big Dan
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 27, 2015 15:35:54 GMT -5
I think we need to stop speculating that the board will cost so much. You can get entire motherboard with HDMI outs, audio and video circuits and outputs, and usb's and all but the CPU chip for $100. I see no reason to speculate that a mere HDMI board will cost $500. That is 25% of the retail price of an XMC-1. Again, anyone who has a concern on the price should call them instead of getting upset on speculation. Mark I heard through the grapevine that it will cost 1 billion dollars. Look - the upgrade to the XMC-1 that will have the HDMI board plus Atmos plus everything under the sun that it needs so that it won't be obsolete has already been announced by Dan so I don't know what all the fuss is about. He was very specific. The part number is XMR-1. Cost should be about $3,750. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 27, 2015 15:37:34 GMT -5
I heard through the grapevine that it will cost 1 billion dollars. Look - the upgrade to the XMC-1 that will have the HDMI board plus Atmos plus everything under the sun that it needs so that it won't be obsolete has already been announced by Dan so I don't know what all the fuss is about. He was very specific. The part number is XMR-1. Cost should be about $3,978,465,456,750. I also heard that it will include a small warp core with a dilithium chamber. For when normal electricity becomes obsolete. |
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 27, 2015 15:47:19 GMT -5
Look - the upgrade to the XMC-1 that will have the HDMI board plus Atmos plus everything under the sun that it needs so that it won't be obsolete has already been announced by Dan so I don't know what all the fuss is about. He was very specific. The part number is XMR-1. Cost should be about $3,978,465,456,750. I also heard that it will include a small warp core with a dilithium chamber. For when normal electricity becomes obsolete. Hey, you made an unauthorized change to what I had written earlier and "quoted" me. I never said that XMR-1 was going to cost $3,978,465,456,750. I'm going to haul you into court!!! That's not nice!! |
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Post by Jim on Feb 27, 2015 16:09:28 GMT -5
That was an accident! I swear!  |
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Post by jlamo on Feb 27, 2015 16:09:36 GMT -5
I guess the price of the XMC-1 with the new HDMI board will stay at $1999 or drop a little bit. So if you can wait, I guess it will pay to wait until the full HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 board is standard. This would be extremely disappointing to me as a current XMC-1 owner. If I had to pay $500 for the HDMI upgrade, that would put my cost at $2500. But someone that buys it with the board installed pays $2000? Is that the cost of being an early adopter? I understand why you may feel slighted but buying a upgradeable product means that there will be upgrades so what is fair then? Free upgrades for those who purchased earlier or sell a product that's out of date to someone else at a higher price . I believe EVERY ONE knew that they would purchase upgrades as needed or wanted for that matter. |
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Post by stiehl11 on Feb 27, 2015 16:14:14 GMT -5
I guess the price of the XMC-1 with the new HDMI board will stay at $1999 or drop a little bit. So if you can wait, I guess it will pay to wait until the full HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 board is standard. This would be extremely disappointing to me as a current XMC-1 owner. If I had to pay $500 for the HDMI upgrade, that would put my cost at $2500. But someone that buys it with the board installed pays $2000? Is that the cost of being an early adopter? In my opinion, no; it's the cost of buying a 1.4b processor and upgrading it to 2.0. It would be like if 8k is introduced within the lifecycle of the product and having to buy that board to upgrade. People who buy the XMC-1 in the future (after the 8k board is ready) will get the 8k board and everyone else will have to upgrade. Just my opinion. |
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Post by jlamo on Feb 27, 2015 16:21:45 GMT -5
I believe the nad boards are around 250$ if that's a equal comparison .
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Post by Dark Ranger on Feb 27, 2015 16:24:04 GMT -5
All I can say is that it's so refreshing (like prying open a chilled Coca-Cola on a hot summer day) to see that the former Rumor Mill has degraded into a ghost town. It's derelict; boards nailed over the windows, dust on the shelves, and overgrown weeds covering the pathways. It's obvious to me that everyone has learned a great lesson. That wisdom and experience has now passed on to the XMR-1. There are no cries for prices, no demands for a release date, no speculation on useless/useful features, and best of all, plenty of confidence that Dan and Co. can pull this off. Ah, truly a wonderful sight to behold. Wait, what is that in the distance? A wisp of cloud? Nay, a sandstorm upon the heels of thousands of anxious settlers hoping to reopen the Mill of Rumors. Oh brother, here we go again!   I suppose I'd better put a disclaimer, this being the Internet and all. So, yeah, I'm proclaiming a disclaimer that the above is declaimed tongue in cheek. Or something. Yeah. |
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Post by dmraupp on Feb 27, 2015 16:33:11 GMT -5
I heard through the grapevine that it will cost 1 billion dollars. Look - the upgrade to the XMC-1 that will have the HDMI board plus Atmos plus everything under the sun that it needs so that it won't be obsolete has already been announced by Dan so I don't know what all the fuss is about. He was very specific. The part number is XMR-1. Cost should be about $3,750. I read Dan's post and he specified the cost would be $5,000 for the XMR-1 not $3750.00? |
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Post by multicore on Feb 27, 2015 16:38:27 GMT -5
Look - the upgrade to the XMC-1 that will have the HDMI board plus Atmos plus everything under the sun that it needs so that it won't be obsolete has already been announced by Dan so I don't know what all the fuss is about. He was very specific. The part number is XMR-1. Cost should be about $3,750. I read Dan's post and he specified the cost would be $5,000 for the XMR-1 not $3750.00? I think he was assuming you had previously purchased an Emotiva processor and therefore qualified for the 25% discount. |
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Post by morfious on Feb 27, 2015 17:13:46 GMT -5
Look - the upgrade to the XMC-1 that will have the HDMI board plus Atmos plus everything under the sun that it needs so that it won't be obsolete has already been announced by Dan so I don't know what all the fuss is about. He was very specific. The part number is XMR-1. Cost should be about $3,750. I read Dan's post and he specified the cost would be $5,000 for the XMR-1 not $3750.00? $5000.00 - 25% off for life upgrade = $3750.00 So people that already have the XMC-1 or UMC-200 can "upgrade" to the XMR-1 for $3750 |
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Post by hifiaudio2 on Feb 27, 2015 17:24:13 GMT -5
And what a great "feature" that is for those of us that bought a previous processor. At first I was thinking about getting a 40% card, but at only another 15% off, plus $400 or so for the card, and that is assuming I bought it now while the XMR is still a long way off, it makes the upgrade for life that much sweeter. Even if that is baked into the price of the XMR, who cares? I is still a stellar deal vs anything else out there, of which there are very few things. Datasat and Trinnov are pretty much the only competition in the space right now that have actually delivered the features they promised. Keep it up, Dan!
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