XMR-1

[danr]

Apr 11, 2015 0:25:45 GMT -5 LCSeminole said:

It appears according to this article by Audioholics that Emotiva has signed on to have DTS:X in the upcoming XMR-1 in Early 2016.

www.audioholics.com/audio-technologies/dts-x-immersive-surround-format

As bad as Emotiva is with dates, that's still a year away and the platform is built with the XMC-1. So maybe they will hit that target date. That's the optimist in me. The pessimist in me wouldn't put any money on it. We'll find out in 12 months...

[Erwin.BE]

Apr 11, 2015 0:25:45 GMT -5 LCSeminole said:

It appears according to this article by Audioholics that Emotiva has signed on to have DTS:X in the upcoming XMR-1 in Early 2016.

www.audioholics.com/audio-technologies/dts-x-immersive-surround-format

I am looking forward to it!!

[lrobertson]

Reading more about DTS:X it sounds like if Emotiva does make speaker remapping possible then two 16 channel pre/pros should be able to play in unison with the same content so long as each device knows which half of the room its responsible for and eliminates the other half of processing. 32 max channels for DTS:X and I'm perfectly fine with that. If any members are interested in Emotiva pursuing something along these lines then now is the time to speak up. Doesn't sound too extreme or out of the box especially if it is going to have remapping already built in. I'll promise big dan that I'll buy two. And every one of you can add new drivers if different opportunities arise in the future. And if your never going to go over 16 you can calm down because the cost to you will be none as it should just be a software feature/option.

[garbulky]

I think emotiva is going to assume that the amount of customers willing to spend 10k on two XMR-1's is relatively low

[novisnick]

Wow!!,,,,,,,Did I miss something??

When did the unit get to 10 K???      


                                                                                                

                        

[lrobertson]

It would actually be 7k with discount cards and that's for 2 not 1. If it's a simple tweak and option in software it would stupid not to do it if it can seperate Emotiva from the rest... if it cost you 0$ would you all be against having the additional feature which could ultimately give Emotiva the edge with product comparisons...

[garbulky]

Apr 18, 2015 13:01:01 GMT -5 lrobertson said:

It would actually be 7k with discount cards and that's for 2 not 1. If it's a simple tweak and option in software it would stupid not to do it if it can seperate Emotiva from the rest... if it cost you 0$ would you all be against having the additional feature which could ultimately give Emotiva the edge with product comparisons...

Though I think it would be very neat and I would be cheering for them if they did that. I doubt it would be a simple tweak. You have to cordinate communication between the two XMR-1's, as well as make sure the HDMI security protocols aren't broken as communcation goes from one XMR-1 to the other. Not to mention rerouting channels which they aren't willing to do on the XMC-1 to enable a simplified version of atmos.

[lrobertson]

I don't see why it would be more of a hdmi splitter and remote junction to singulate volume and source.. then speaker assignments like the code was designed for. The ability to remap for any speaker locations for up to 32 speakers is their claim to fame. They even say this is up to the manufacture as to how they can take advantage of this after 2015. I know blending from system to system would by no means be as smooth as the trinnov altitude 32 but I may be able to sacrifice absolute perfection by dropping my cost from 35,000 installed to 7,000. And I'd still have two pre pros if I wanted to upgrade when perfection becomes affordable. Worst case scenerio you'd have to drop 2 channels from the systems so you don't have 2 center cannes and vog speakers. Which is why it would be great to have the option to turn them off and reassign that channel to surround duty.

Edit: also the way I have always read into it is any speaker configuration that is limited to less speakers and designated speaker locations is the simplified version of atmos, not the other way around. It most certainly will be with DTS:X. Having the ability to add speakers and decide placement is the opposite of the simplified version of these codecs. It's literally what they were designed for and intended to accomplish.

[lrobertson]

No comments at all?
Not too many things would be needed.

1- HDMI splitter branching off to systems.
2- remote cables connecting to aftermarket urc remote junction.
3- option of each system to ignore either the 0-180 or 180-360 sound data if two systems are to be used.
4- the ability to assign speaker placements as intended by codec developers.

These requirements really don't seem irrational to expect from developers. it's just code manipulation and implementation.

[Erwin.BE]

No, not irrational at all. No Sir! A bit excentric, maybe?

[bradford]

You would have to figure out the bass management between the 2 units. When they introduce Dirac unison with its active room treatment
splitting subs across units may be problematic. You would probably have to put the 9 base channels plus subs on one unit then the height on the other.

[novisnick]

May 18, 2015 12:33:33 GMT -5 bradford said:

You would have to figure out the bass management between the 2 units. When they introduce Dirac unison with its active room treatment
splitting subs across units may be problematic. You would probably have to put the 9 base channels plus subs on one unit then the height on the other.

Problematic? You've already solved the problem! 

[sandiway]

Apr 18, 2015 12:25:01 GMT -5 garbulky said:

I think emotiva is going to assume that the amount of customers willing to spend 10k on two XMR-1's is relatively low

10K is barely scratching the surface. Think how much that many high-end speakers are going to cost...

[lrobertson]

Good point on the bass managment. That will be very important to me. We could get the future expandability option and everything for those excentric folks such as myself that are preparing to hit the ground running with the new codec for cheap with maximum resale value. I can't think of a cheaper way... That is why excentric folks would go emotiva. Because it would be the cheapest way to get to 32 or at least not sell yourself short. This fits the mission statement that I was sold on for Emotiva.

[wizardofoz]

I think Ill just be happy to see it make it out the gate with a minimum of issues and to some degree around mid 2016 (in time for my birthday)

Reminds me to get my 40% card to Emotiva in good time for safe keeping.

[AudioHTIT]

While I'm not against anything that improves the capabilities of the XMR-1, I think it's presumptuous to think that the implementation would be trivial, all software, and free (not increasing the price of the unit). When ideas like this first floated they seemed good, but there are always details that make the project more difficult, expensive, and time consuming. I do think however, that it's good to voice your desires here as if it turned out to be as simple as you think then they would know that there is an interest.

[lrobertson]

And that's all I'm trying to do. I just finished with all my layers of drywall and greenglue with isomax clips in my media room yesterday that's been laid out with a golden room ratio. I've got a big investment in my room and as soon as I'm done with final which looks to be this fall I'm planning on jumping into building the acoustical room within the room without skipping a beat and that means I'm going with my final speaker placements decided by maximum benefit from psychoacoustics and not with the temporary artificial roadblocks manufacturers may allow. I'm sure if it's easy and cheap it won't fall on deaf ears as all companies struggle for an edge with competitive industries. I'll happily volunteer as a beta tester if they want to try anything out to get me my 32 now though.

[skiman1]

Irobertson, while I admire your wishful thinking, if I was Emotiva's XMR designer, I'd have a meeting with marketing, and ask how many more units they project to sell based on the ability you want.

By the way, I have a hunch that the XMR will be based on the 'guts' of the XMC. Otherwise, it will never make it to market by 'early' 2016. And it really needs to be out around then to grab a good share of the market (and sell one to me!).

[lrobertson]

That and whether or not a feature set like that will give them a distinct advantage and more importantly product identity with only a 35,000 Trinnov that has the same advantage. I think brand recognition is higher on Emotivas needed list that that alone should have a value. Most people haven't heard of em.

[wizardofoz]

My wife has a working partner that is based in Franklin...he has never heard of Emotiva, that said he is also not into hifi....I don't know how big Franklin is but I'm guessing it's not a huge population. I however have never been to Franklin, nor even TN but I'll get there one day soon.