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Post by novisnick on May 9, 2015 21:17:30 GMT -5
Bring your our speakers and plug them into my theater room, XPA-1Ls. >. DC-1. >. XSP-1. >. Your Axioms and listen to what it could be for sources you can hear A) Mac Mini AIFF files B) Oppo 103 C) TT of your choice, there's 5 to pick from D) Yamaha 3020 Just add speakers, or listen to my JBLs or Klipsch Monitors, and friends,,,,,,maybe add a veggie sandwich and beverage.
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Post by bub on May 9, 2015 22:49:42 GMT -5
I've taken my pre ( xsp -1 ) out of the loop when I upgraded my DAC. It's back in my HT. www.anedio.com/index.php/product/d2_specsI think I copied spec page. I wouldn't know a good spec if it hit me upside my head. But I love all those 0's. The builder recommends direct to amp ( pre-less ). Also what comes to mind are his somewhat unorthodox views. He's a believer in bi-amping even if it's passive. And running unbalanced if you don't have a truly balanced system I'm assuming a xpa-2 or upa -2 would take care of that. Interesting read. American made with the exception of the case. I bought mine during Xmas sale $890. If you get a chance check it out But no question. House fund first. second , third. , etc. And the sooner the better.
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Post by guzz46 on May 9, 2015 23:29:06 GMT -5
My mate recently brought a Chord Hugo, and he reckons it sounds better than his Audio-gd Reference-10.32, he brought the Hugo around to my place and we took the optical out of my Cambridge 752BD into his Hugo, and from the Hugo straight into my XPA-1's, we then compared it to the Cambridge straight into my XPA-1's, and we both thought there wasn't much difference at all, the Hugo sounded just a little laid back compared to the Cambridge, and maybe the tones were slightly different, but the difference was so small that I wouldn't be confident that I could pick between the two in a blind test.
He said the Hugo made a pretty big difference on his system (which he admitted was less high end than mine) but not so on mine, he said his system wasn't as revealing as mine, so perhaps that's why the Hugo made the difference on his? he reckoned the Hugo opened his system up, his speakers were Focal Aria's, not sure which model Aria, and I can't remember the rest.
As a side note, removing the preamp from my system has been one of the best things I've ever done, an upgrade in sound quality while saving money too, a win win situation.
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Post by yves on May 10, 2015 0:53:09 GMT -5
Navigate to 10'56" in this video IMO.
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Post by klinemj on May 10, 2015 5:00:07 GMT -5
garbulkyIf you are against getting their entry line of amps, you should not be considering any UPA's then. And, read the link on the new Emotiva class D's. The article says it is a new ICE module that delivers "the full power into 4 ohms". Maybe that would solve the power woes for bass you refer to. Mark
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Post by Boomzilla on May 10, 2015 5:16:03 GMT -5
Mark may have an excellent point, garbulky - Your speakers ARE 4-ohm models, and the "flow" you describe when listening with better amps and/or biamplification may be just from a single factor - more current available at low impedance. If that's the case, then just about any beefy A/B amp or even the 4-ohm optimized Class D may provide the extra "ease" you seek. Don't knock Emotiva's new amps until you've heard them. I'm curious about their new amps myself. Depending on the speakers and their compatibility with the amp technology, yes, sometimes the "entry level" can outshine the "better stuff." If I remember right, klinemj uses some class D amps in his system, and thinks highly of them. Class D isn't just "pro power" any more. Cordially - Boom
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Post by vcautokid on May 10, 2015 6:39:21 GMT -5
Now here is a thought from left field. Biamp with 2 XPA-2 amps instead. 4 channels of huge power, and highest current drive of any of the XPA amps too as a bonus. Yeah, love monos but thinking outside the box, coloring outside the lines.
I learned something about power, it gives you many more choices when you have allot of it. Maybe an XPR=2 is not a bad idea too! simpler one chassis solution, call it done.
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Post by vneal on May 10, 2015 8:00:44 GMT -5
I would keep what you have, sit out a year on upgrading and buy a motorcycle
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Post by Boomzilla on May 10, 2015 8:05:40 GMT -5
I would keep what you have, sit out a year on upgrading and buy a motorcycle Testosterone poisoning! LOL But I like the way you think!
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Post by Priapulus on May 10, 2015 8:13:05 GMT -5
Get the XSP-1 now; everything else is an accessory to it.... Sincerely /b
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Post by garbulky on May 10, 2015 8:38:35 GMT -5
I do hear you klinemj. But there's nothing about class D or the emo offering that tickles my fancy. No offense to the class D users out there that love the sound. Also best of luck to emo. Truth be told, I am itching to buy so hard that I want to just get the cheapeast thing to satisfy my cravings which at this point is UPA-1's. But something tells me, no, wait a few months, go with an XPA-2 and/or an XSP-1. It will be worth it! The thing I'm worried about the XPA-2 gen 1 is when I heard it the mid-range felt just the wee bit forward/compressed. Something agressive about it. However I couldn't separate it from the USP-1 being the culprit. But that's the only thing I'm worried about.
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Post by garbulky on May 10, 2015 8:39:28 GMT -5
Now here is a thought from left field. Biamp with 2 XPA-2 amps instead. 4 channels of huge power, and highest current drive of any of the XPA amps too as a bonus. Yeah, love monos but thinking outside the box, coloring outside the lines. I learned something about power, it gives you many more choices when you have allot of it. Maybe an XPR=2 is not a bad idea too! simpler one chassis solution, call it done. I've thought about that too! Bi amp that sucker! The XPA-2 also has a healthy amount of class A!
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Post by geebo on May 10, 2015 8:56:10 GMT -5
Now here is a thought from left field. Biamp with 2 XPA-2 amps instead. 4 channels of huge power, and highest current drive of any of the XPA amps too as a bonus. Yeah, love monos but thinking outside the box, coloring outside the lines. I learned something about power, it gives you many more choices when you have allot of it. Maybe an XPR=2 is not a bad idea too! simpler one chassis solution, call it done. I've thought about that too! Bi amp that sucker! The XPA-2 also has a healthy amount of class A! Yeah, somewhere between 3/4 and 1 watt...
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Post by garbulky on May 10, 2015 8:59:48 GMT -5
I've thought about that too! Bi amp that sucker! The XPA-2 also has a healthy amount of class A! Yeah, somewhere between 3/4 and 1 watt... Oh thought it was 5 watts. Hmm...
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Post by geebo on May 10, 2015 9:10:29 GMT -5
Yeah, somewhere between 3/4 and 1 watt... Oh thought it was 5 watts. Hmm... Not according to what a group of us were told at Emofest 2013 or 2012 by Lonnie.
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Post by klinemj on May 10, 2015 9:36:01 GMT -5
I do hear you klinemj. But there's nothing about class D or the emo offering that tickles my fancy. No offense to the class D users out there that love the sound. Also best of luck to emo. Truth be told, I am itching to buy so hard that I want to just get the cheapeast thing to satisfy my cravings which at this point is UPA-1's. But something tells me, no, wait a few months, go with an XPA-2 and/or an XSP-1. It will be worth it! The thing I'm worried about the XPA-2 gen 1 is when I heard it the mid-range felt just the wee bit forward/compressed. Something agressive about it. However I couldn't separate it from the USP-1 being the culprit. But that's the only thing I'm worried about. If you want to buy the cheapest thing to satisfy your cravings, go to a yard sale. Mark
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Post by garbulky on May 10, 2015 9:39:41 GMT -5
They don't have upa-1's!
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Post by klinemj on May 10, 2015 9:40:47 GMT -5
Sure? Get boom to shop for you!
Mark
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Post by klinemj on May 10, 2015 9:42:43 GMT -5
PS...I did find the xpa-2 to be a tiny bit harsh in the upper end even with my XSP-1.
Mark
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Post by novisnick on May 10, 2015 10:28:52 GMT -5
I do hear you klinemj. But there's nothing about class D or the emo offering that tickles my fancy. No offense to the class D users out there that love the sound. Also best of luck to emo. Truth be told, I am itching to buy so hard that I want to just get the cheapeast thing to satisfy my cravings which at this point is UPA-1's. But something tells me, no, wait a few months, go with an XPA-2 and/or an XSP-1. It will be worth it! The thing I'm worried about the XPA-2 gen 1 is when I heard it the mid-range felt just the wee bit forward/compressed. Something agressive about it. However I couldn't separate it from the USP-1 being the culprit. But that's the only thing I'm worried about., If you want to buy the cheapest thing to satisfy your cravings, go to a yard sale. Mark Go with Boomzilla!!!
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