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Post by drtrey3 on May 29, 2015 10:58:27 GMT -5
While I think that good stories do access the same archetypal material and themes, not every story teller is a good one. And when the companies focus more on profit than quality, we get drek. When they focus on quality storytelling, the profits will come. It is not so much about retelling the story as it is about retelling the story well.
Trey
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Post by chaosrv on May 29, 2015 11:40:29 GMT -5
I also have no problem with rehashing old story ideas, as it has been said mankind has been doing it since the dawn of time.
The idea of a law-enforcement agent infiltrating an organization and sympathizing with them was not new to Point Break either. I get that.
My problem is reusing the old titles & character names to cash in . If the new one cannot stand on its own, slapping on an old title hurts both movies.
There are rare exceptions, of course.
If the new movie is for those who have not seen or heard of the original, what is the purpose of reusing the same title & character names? They would have zero meaning for the new viewers.
If anything, I think people that get upset over these remakes (like me) ARE the target audience at least leading up to the release of the film. Why? Because we get on our soapbox b*tching about the movie thereby drawing more attention to it. They are saving millions of dollars in advertising simply by using the names Point Break, Johnny Utah, Brodie etc..
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Post by bootman on May 31, 2015 6:42:11 GMT -5
Here is an original film that still has an old feeling to it. Actually multiple old feelings that never seem to end.....  youtu.be/bS5P_LAqiVg |
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Post by brand on May 31, 2015 8:43:57 GMT -5
Average moviegoer: \demands innovation, no more remakes, great stories, hollywood is sh**, hollywood is just interested in making money blablabla \watches every big blockbuster and buys the film on blu ray etc. and then wonders why hollywood keeps making the movies they make (hint: it's not because they're out of new ideas) Insert headwallsmash smiley here. Personally yes, I'd also like to see less remakes but I can't really demand anything since I'm watching and buying most of what Hollywood currently is releasing. I wouldn't call Point Break "near to perfection as you can get" though. It was a bit above average 90s action movie. People tend to nostalgia too hard these days especially with the internet that makes it so much easier to live in the "everything used to be better" bubble. The remake looks utter sh*t though so in comparison maybe the original was near to perfection.  |
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Post by garym on May 31, 2015 8:47:30 GMT -5
Just like buildings can be granted landmark status so their facades (and sometimes interiors) cannot be changed, we need to come up with something similar for movies. A landmark status for films preventing anyone from re-making them due to their place in history as a truly great film or an important representation of its time period/genre. Until we can make this happen, Hollywood will continue to pillage our cherished cinematic history. Well, the trouble is, they are not "our cinematic history." They are not our movies. They are the property of the studios who produced them. "We" have no legitimate claim to them. Neither do we with respect to privately-owned buildings. If "we" want to preserve a movie or a building "we" need to make their owners an offer they can't refuse. Otherwise we're merely stealing or trespassing upon someone else's property. The mere fact that someone likes a thing doesn't confer a property right to that thing upon him. |
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Post by Boomzilla on May 31, 2015 9:09:32 GMT -5
If they're going to reboot something, give me "Serenity" or even "Buffy, the Vampire Slayer." But only if Joss Wheadon directs...
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Post by jmilton on Jun 13, 2015 17:29:29 GMT -5
And now a remake of John Carpenters "Big Trouble in Little China" starting Dwayne Johnson aka The Rock.
Why oh why?...
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Post by sahmen on Jun 13, 2015 19:05:24 GMT -5
And now a remake of John Carpenters "Big Trouble in Little China" starting Dwayne Johnson aka The Rock. Why oh why?... Easy enough: Bigger budgets ==>> Bigger Muscles ==>> Bigger guns ==>> Bigger explosions ==>> Bigger "bucks" office... err box office returns... Okay, no one can guarantee the Bigger $$$ returns, but you can't fault a studio for trying... Besides, it was inevitable, bound to happen one day, sooner rather later... a Hollywood "prophecy" |
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