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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 16:39:23 GMT -5
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 16:43:29 GMT -5
nevermind different amps and speakers are in play Your correct in assuming that it's still the same problem that I've always had, just taking another shot at it since its in a different room with different amps and speakers. But I've had it the hole time I've had those two components together. For some reason they just don't get along. Now, I guess an engineer could solve the problem but that's so much more then I'm willing/able to spend. Ill just have to live with it!!  |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 16:55:07 GMT -5
Just how loud is this buzz, anyway? I think you said it is not dependent on the volume control, so how far back from the speakers can you hear it? At zero volume I can faintly hear it at 13' and at 15' it all but disappears. any closer and it does get louder. If need be I could get the SPL meter. But that would seem excessive.   at any volume it is not noticeable, in a dead quiet room it would drive you/me nuts. Thank goodness we don't turn on our hear and not turn the volume up. So I've resigned to ignore the buzz as best I can. If the XSP-1 wasn't so clean sounding and the Yamaha had XLRs I'd think about selling. the XSP-1 and DC-1 together with XPA-1Ls is just so intoxicating!!! better speakers are required to full appreciate their sound and ability. |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 13, 2015 17:21:24 GMT -5
Bad interconnect?
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 18:02:18 GMT -5
Thanks,,,,,,,I wish  That at is a great start,,,,,unfortunately,,,,,,,I did start there ,,,,to no avail!!! Dang Nabit!! |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 13, 2015 18:13:36 GMT -5
Have you tried a cheater plug on the XPS-1? Maybe you did this long ago and I just missed that, but if not, it's worth a try.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 18:17:10 GMT -5
Have you tried a cheater plug on the XPS-1? Maybe you did this long ago and I just missed that, but if not, it's worth a try. I do admire your go at this it is greatly appreciated!! but,,,,,,,,,,  Swing and and a miss, it didn't fix the problem. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 13, 2015 18:26:40 GMT -5
I don't understand the smirky reply. If you've tried it, just say so.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 18:55:34 GMT -5
I don't understand the smirky reply. If you've tried it, just say so. I'm so sorry if you think I was going for smirky!! I wasn't! I was being sincere in my reply. I liked your go at my problem and wanted to show more then just a simple nod. thats why sometimes stuff just doesn't come across right on a forum. Im glad you told me that you felt this way, otherwise I would not have had a clue that you felt offended. Please accept my apology. Thanks. Nick |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 13, 2015 19:01:52 GMT -5
I'm not offended - I just wanted to know if you tried a cheater plug. I still don't know.
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Post by DavidR on Jul 13, 2015 19:03:57 GMT -5
I may have missed it in a post but are you connected to the TV/Cable? I had a grounded splitter and had a horrible buzz. I removed the ground from the splitter and it was gone.  |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 13, 2015 19:05:11 GMT -5
I don't understand the smirky reply. If you've tried it, just say so. I would say 'Yes' he has and it was a swing and a miss meaning it was NOT the issue |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 19:05:54 GMT -5
I'm not offended - I just wanted to know if you tried a cheater plug. I still don't know. I have tried a cheater plug and the buzz persists. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 13, 2015 20:35:24 GMT -5
Maybe two of these between the Yamaha and the XPS-1 so you can use the XLR inputs on the XSP-1. If the Yamaha and the XSP-1 are close this should work well plugged into the XPS-1. Otherwise locate it close to the Yamaha and get XLR cables to run to the XPS-1. Downside is transformer may not be totally linear but it will isolate so that ground currents flowing between the two units will be eliminated. www.fullcompass.com/product/401050.html |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 20:44:53 GMT -5
Maybe two of these between the Yamaha and the XPS-1 so you can use the XLR inputs on the XSP-1. If the Yamaha and the XSP-1 are close this should work well plugged into the XPS-1. Otherwise locate it close to the Yamaha and get XLR cables to run to the XPS-1. Downside is transformer may not be totally linear but it will isolate so that ground currents flowing between the two units will be eliminated. www.fullcompass.com/product/401050.htmlI'll give them a call tomorrow, thanks so much for looking into my problem. correct me if I'm wrong, these are not just converters from RCA TO XLR but they will isolate the units from each other. is my reading of this correct? thanks again, Nick |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 13, 2015 20:53:50 GMT -5
Yes, these isolate and convert and should be better quality than the Radio Shack thingy you bought. Now if you want to spend $300 or so, you can get a similar but even higher quality product from Jensen.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 21:24:20 GMT -5
Yes, these isolate and convert and should be better quality than the Radio Shack thingy you bought. Now if you want to spend $300 or so, you can get a similar but even higher quality product from Jensen. I'd like to take a look at one that connects the two units together, I don't believe the problem is with the amps. which do you suggest. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 13, 2015 21:33:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you are asking. This is for the Yamaha RCA L/R output to the XPS-1 HT L/R balanced inputs. If you mean all in one box, Jensen makes this ( www.cs1.net/products/jensen_transformers/PC-2XR.htm ) for $188.00. It would be a better quality, but would require more cables to complete the connections. Forget about the amps, the problem is circulating ground current between the Yamaha and the XPS-1. Actually, Jensen product you need is the PI-2RX at the same price ( the XR designation is for XLR to RCA, the RX is for RCA to XLR ) |
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Post by wizardofoz on Jul 13, 2015 21:38:42 GMT -5
Hum and buzz is almost always caused buy stray signals or voltages between grounds
I haven't read the whole thread but have you tried yet with nothing but the xsp connected to the yamaha ... No tv no cable box no other inputs connected...just a power cable and output to the xsp? If you still get hum then I might consider buying a multimeter or borrowing one and messing the the av/DC voltages between the interconnects etc and ground/earth connections.
Also have you tried connecting the 2 chassis together with a run of wire from 2 of the case screws.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 13, 2015 21:40:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you are asking. This is for the Yamaha RCA L/R output to the XPS-1 HT L/R balanced inputs. If you mean all in one box, Jensen makes this ( www.cs1.net/products/jensen_transformers/PC-2XR.htm ) for $188.00. It would be a better quality, but would require more cables to complete the connections. Forget about the amps, the problem is circulating ground current between the Yamaha and the XPS-1. Yes! It is the Yamaha and the XSP-1!! This looks like what I need! The one from RS only made the buzz louder! Thanks so very much, and if they will accept a return if it doesn't work ,,,,I think it would be a reasonable price to pay, we'll still kind of expensive but still,, I'd be tempted to shell out the $$ to fix it without downgrading the music. youve been most helpful! |
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