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Post by deepfreeze on Oct 21, 2015 6:36:08 GMT -5
Thank you ; i'll definitely do this.
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Post by mshump on Oct 21, 2015 6:38:35 GMT -5
my current: Monitor audio silver 8s, Silver Center, Silver 1s for rears + DUAL Rythmik FV15HP... everything is new haven't even tested it, its waiting to be put together Nice system !! After you get it all put together, please give us a review with your impressions. |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 21, 2015 7:51:23 GMT -5
You are indeed building a nice system! Enjoy!
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 21, 2015 10:04:18 GMT -5
You've probably handled your cable by now, but another good choice for an XPA-3 is a component video cable. They work great for video and audio, and with the XPA-3 you get a bundle of 3 cables each marked with a different color. I've used two sets of these (6 cables) to hook up the 5.1 analog connections from a BlueRay player to a processor. I like BlueJeans component bundles, good Belden cable, nice rubber bundle jacket, and great Canare connectors. Many overlook this option when considering audio cables. Now that I think of it, I might put a couple sets up in the Emporium.  |
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Post by creimes on Oct 21, 2015 14:13:00 GMT -5
Back about 5 years ago I was running Monitor Audio RX6 towers on my Yamaha RXV-1065 Receiver and my first purchase into separates was two Emotiva UPA-1 monoblocks and I have never looked back since, for my ears in my room I noticed more detail and transparency when listening to music, I hate using those types of words but I really don't know how to describe it other than everything just opened up, to sum it up I guess my MA RX6's played nicely with my them Emotiva amps, enjoy that sweet setup. Chad Here's a photo from I think my first post here back in 2011 haha, pre Emotiva gear of course   |
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Post by deepfreeze on Oct 21, 2015 20:16:40 GMT -5
I do have a question regarding my AVR(denon 4200w) and emotiva.... to run a 7.1.2 setup the denon (requires an external stereo power amp)... would the emotiva 3 solve this by powering the front . left, center speakers? I'm not exactly sure how do add in stereo amp to give me the 7.1.2 setup..
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Post by hemster on Oct 21, 2015 20:35:49 GMT -5
I do have a question regarding my AVR(denon 4200w) and emotiva.... to run a 7.1.2 setup the denon (requires an external stereo power amp)... would the emotiva 3 solve this by powering the front . left, center speakers? I'm not exactly sure how do add in stereo amp to give me the 7.1.2 setup.. Yes, this will work. Use the Pre Out outputs (Left, Right and Center) and connect them to the Emotiva 3 channel amp (which in turn connects to your L/R/C speakers) The remaining speakers will be connected to the Denon's speaker connections. The subs would be connected directly from the Pre Out connections to the subs.  |
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Post by deltadube on Oct 21, 2015 20:42:17 GMT -5
nice sound out of those speakers ive heard them a few times.. xpa 3 was my first amp.. hooked it up to my denon.. blew my socks off.. awesome improvement!!! cheers |
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Post by deepfreeze on Oct 22, 2015 7:04:43 GMT -5
thanks everyone!
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Post by deepfreeze on Oct 22, 2015 14:04:17 GMT -5
if i use the rca pair and split them, does it matter which color i use for each channel? and does it matter which for the center as well
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Post by deepfreeze on Oct 26, 2015 16:40:14 GMT -5
btw: is there any difference between balanced and unbalanced?
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Post by deepfreeze on Mar 27, 2016 20:41:22 GMT -5
my current: Monitor audio silver 8s, Silver Center, Silver 1s for rears + DUAL Rythmik FV15HP... everything is new haven't even tested it, its waiting to be put together ! You've done a great job putting together this system. That is one very fine system! Super choices for the speakers and subs. Please consider designating all the Monitor Audio speakers as "Small" in the Denon speaker set up section and not as Large (Full Range) regardless of what the Denon Audyssey does (Audyssey can make mistakes ... manually over-ride it if necessary). Small doesn't mean the Silver 8's and others are small in size, it means that you are sending the tones below about 80Hz to the subs and not to both the subs and the five speakers. There is some disagreement on this but this prevents the low bass from going to both the mains and the subs which results in less defined bass and lots of boom. This also takes all the low bass reproducing strain off the XPA-3 and Denon amps and places the bass below 80Hz on the dedicated excellent amps in the FV15HP's. Yeah but for some reason i just feel the CENTER dialogue just comes across as a bit weak... It sounds good but its not just really powerful! I never got my XPA 3 fixed so I'm running soley the DENON 4200w, I'm not sure if getting the new XPA 3 will help dialogue or not.. I have read the silver center is the weak link but i didn't think it would be that weak... any recommendations? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 23:17:03 GMT -5
! You've done a great job putting together this system. That is one very fine system! Super choices for the speakers and subs. Please consider designating all the Monitor Audio speakers as "Small" in the Denon speaker set up section and not as Large (Full Range) regardless of what the Denon Audyssey does (Audyssey can make mistakes ... manually over-ride it if necessary). Small doesn't mean the Silver 8's and others are small in size, it means that you are sending the tones below about 80Hz to the subs and not to both the subs and the five speakers. There is some disagreement on this but this prevents the low bass from going to both the mains and the subs which results in less defined bass and lots of boom. This also takes all the low bass reproducing strain off the XPA-3 and Denon amps and places the bass below 80Hz on the dedicated excellent amps in the FV15HP's. Yeah but for some reason i just feel the CENTER dialogue just comes across as a bit weak... It sounds good but its not just really powerful! I never got my XPA 3 fixed so I'm running soley the DENON 4200w, I'm not sure if getting the new XPA 3 will help dialogue or not.. I have read the silver center is the weak link but i didn't think it would be that weak... any recommendations? The color makes no difference. Just make sure the same color connects to the speaker channel on both the AVR and amp. L to L, R to R, C to C, etc. " btw: is there any difference between balanced and unbalanced?" Yes, there is a difference. Used the unbalanced only. (btw, this was answered in a post above, please read carefully) Make sure the two position switch is on unbalanced (on the XPA-3 amp). Sometimes when connecting or disconnecting it is easy to unintentionally move this switch. You have done a great job so far. The only choice I would have made differently is getting the FX surrounds. You're OK, just try to place the Silver 1's up high above ear level, 2 feet or higher if possible, but not too close to the ceiling. Try not to aim them directly at your ears but slightly behind or above your ears. If you give us a diagram or photo, room dimensions, and where the main seat is we can tell you where to best place the surrounds or/and if you need 4 surrounds. Silver Centre ..... This is the correct speaker to match your other speakers. Don't be alarmed by the smaller size versus the L&R or even the somewhat huge center speakers in other brands. Many folks think they need a huge center channel to keep up with the L&R. You don't need lots of bass thru the center because if you set it up correctly the lower bass will be sent from the center channel signal to the subwoofer via your AVR. Although most of the dialog comes thru the center it usually will not play as loud as the L&R. The center needs to play the upper bass, mids and highs and of course the dialog clearly with no vocal coloration and match as close as possible the sound characteristics of the L&R. The critical part of the center speaker is that is should be set to play back the same vocal or mid tones/mid signals/frequencies at the same exact level as the L&R. For example, there should be a manual setup section for your AVR that allows you to play a test tone thru all 5 channels in order L, C, R, Surrounds. That test tone (usually hissy noise at about 1000Hz) should be adjusted in the AVR so it is at exact the same output level in decibels. This can be done using your ears but it is more exact done by a SPL Meter such as the $50 one from Radio Shack. If you use your ears try to be exact as possible, the human ear is normally not as precise as the meter, do the best you can. If you find you consistently can't hear the dialog then you might set the center channel slightly higher, like +0.5 or +1.0 versus the L, R and surrounds. This test is usually done at about 75dB on the meter (or 70 or 80dB). There is also the auto system setup software built-in to your AVR, probably Audyssey in your AVR. You must be very careful using these auto setup methods. Be sure to follow the instructions exactly, including how to use the mic. These systems frequently make mistakes including recommending "large" instead of "small" (always use "small" with your sub and don't be afraid to manually override the auto system if necessary!), setting the crossover frequencies way off, same with the sub. I recommend setting as following: All 5 or 7 speakers at "small" (not large or full range). Start with all speakers and sub(s) at 80Hz crossover (these might use terms like low and high pass filters. Later you might try 70Hz for the L&R and 80 on center and 90Hz on the surrounds. If at least one of the subs is at or near the front wall these should be fine. Set the sub carefully and make sure you use the crossover for the sub in the AVR's menu. The crossover/filter setting on the sub (not used) will be at bypass/off/or at max frequency on the dial. Usually start the sub(s) somewhere near 10-12 o'clock on the volume dial. Change as need only during the original setup. You have two awesome brutes for subs! There are usually a number of other reasons the dialog might seem to be weak in your system. 1. .......... You need to have your LCR speakers all the same distance from your center sweet spot seat, this measurement goes into your AVR. So the L&R should be slight farther out (a few inches) from the wall than the center. The back of the center will ideally be at least 1-2 feet from the wall. 2 .......... The center is probably sitting on a cabinet, etc. If possible the leading edge of the center speaker should be at the leading edge of the cabinet or an inch or two out. This way there are no reflections from the center off the top of the cabinet. Don't have the center back inside the cabinet. Tilt it up (or shim) if necessary to point at your ears. Ideally the tweeters in the L&R and center will be equal height or at least both pointed at you ears when seated. 3 .......... Many movies sound techs are deaf and the center channel level is too low. This happens frequently and it is not necessarily the fault of your speaker or amp, presuming you have the output level of the LCR set precisely during the set up procedures. If this happens use the remote to raise the center level for the bad movie sound and remember to re-set it later. The Grey is an example of a movie with a too low center level. 4 .......... Some folks have a coffee table or some other object in the middle of the room between them and the center speaker that can interfere with the sound level of the center. 5 .......... This all presumes that center amp on the used XPA-3 is working correctly, I doubt very much there is any issue. If nothing here works then just try setting the center output slightly higher and remember the AVR auto setup might have set it too low in the first place. Hope this helps. Sorry for the very brief post!  |
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Post by deepfreeze on Mar 28, 2016 6:44:44 GMT -5
Which it is not.. I gave it back to the person who sold it to me....
thanks for the input
i often have my avr set up fairly high to get it to sound good maybe -15DB
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Post by deepfreeze on Mar 28, 2016 6:55:34 GMT -5
I have considering selling my MA and upgrading to JTR
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:35:37 GMT -5
Which it is not.. I gave it back to the person who sold it to me.... thanks for the input i often have my avr set up fairly high to get it to sound good maybe -15DB What does this mean, I'm curious? How did you figure something was not right with the XPA-3? Was there a channel (the one you were using to drive the center speaker)in the amp not working? Did you test that amp channel on the L or R speaker to confirm the amp was defective? Does the center play loud enough thru the amps in the AVR? I wonder if you have the AVR set up correctly, don't completely trust the auto system. I suggest you go for a new XPA-5 for all 5 channels, the best current 5 ch amp on this planet! Also Montor Audio speakers are highly regarded by most owners. emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-5 (5 years transferable warranty) |
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Post by tchaik on Mar 29, 2016 15:59:35 GMT -5
You are indeed building a nice system! Enjoy! Mark agreed….. tchaik……. |
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Post by deepfreeze on Apr 1, 2016 22:09:20 GMT -5
I'll be getting a new XPA 3 or 5 I'm not sure yet...
YES the MA SILVER IS AMAZING SOUNDING and is great for movies. although it can't touch JTR when it comes to 100% HT
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Post by deepfreeze on Apr 3, 2016 8:02:56 GMT -5
I figure the JTR + EMOTIVA (GEN 3) SHOULD Be mind blowing...
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