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Post by sycraft on Nov 21, 2015 18:37:21 GMT -5
I realize that it would need to digitize the signal and then convert it back, but it is still something I'm interested in potentially using.
Thanks.
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Post by mickseymour on Nov 22, 2015 2:36:44 GMT -5
Yes it does, and a very good job it does too. Just select the Dirac preset for the analogue input.
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Post by sycraft on Nov 22, 2015 2:44:36 GMT -5
I think I may be needing one then. Does it do bass management on the analogue ins as well? The reason I ask is my Denon won't do anything but level settings on the multi-channel analogue in, no Audyssey, no bass management. Makes it a pretty useless input  |
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Post by mickseymour on Nov 22, 2015 3:20:10 GMT -5
It does bass management too. If you have small LR speakers and a sub, or set large LR speakers to Small in setup, bass is routed to the sub.
I have a sonically poor room which Dirac fixes quite nicely. When I bought the XMC-1 I had intended to use the Reference Stereo mode for LP playback. After running Dirac I found that Stereo mode with bass management, LR speakers set to small and Dirac engaged, the music shone through.
The purist in me said that Reference Stereo was all I'd need for LP playback. If my room had been sonically acceptable, I could have been right. With my room, I was wrong.
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Post by petew on Nov 22, 2015 18:08:57 GMT -5
does the xmc-1 do processing on the 7.1 analog inputs?
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Post by geebo on Nov 22, 2015 18:48:12 GMT -5
does the xmc-1 do processing on the 7.1 analog inputs? No. Digital processing is not available for anything plugged into the 7.1 analog inputs. |
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Post by geebo on Nov 22, 2015 18:50:52 GMT -5
I think I may be needing one then. Does it do bass management on the analogue ins as well? The reason I ask is my Denon won't do anything but level settings on the multi-channel analogue in, no Audyssey, no bass management. Makes it a pretty useless input Most modes will allow Dirac processing which includes bass management. Direct mode will do bass management with no other signal processing. Reference mode allows neither. |
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Post by KeithL on Nov 23, 2015 14:18:45 GMT -5
The XMC-1 treats the 7.1 analog inputs as analog only - they are NOT converted into digital, and so cannot be processed in any way. (Most people use these inputs as a way to get audio from some other device which is already doing the processing - like from the analog outputs on an Oppo when they want to let the Oppo use its DACs and processing.) does the xmc-1 do processing on the 7.1 analog inputs? |
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Post by Marcel on May 27, 2019 6:44:48 GMT -5
Digging this thread out as I would like to get this clear:
The XMC-1 treats the 7.1 analog inputs as analog only - they are NOT converted into digital, and so cannot be processed in any way. That's what I thought when reading the manual.
That's why I was pretty suprised that it is possible to switch the presets (with audible effect) when 7.1 input is selcted and also to choose "Dirac" this way.
So maybe I don't get it right but to my point of view this means there IS digital processing of the signal coming via 7.1 analogue intup into the XMC-1, except Speaker-/Bass-Management as well as Room correction is not understood as digital processing...
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Post by geebo on May 27, 2019 8:27:09 GMT -5
Speaker levels can be set differently among the presets and are active for the 7.1 inputs which may account for the differences you hear.
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Post by Marcel on May 27, 2019 9:08:37 GMT -5
Speaker levels can be set differently among the presets and are active for the 7.1 inputs which may account for the differences you hear. Well, I see your point and I only can guess that modifying speaker levels with preset 1 as well as with preset 2 is supposed to happen analogue.
But this does not explain (not to me at least) why we also can choose for the Speaker Preset "DIRAC" when "7.1 Analogue in" is selected for input and why in this selection it appears (!) to happen that Dirac Room Correction is active. Maybe my ears fool me but to me it's like with all three selections I receive a different sound (Preset 1 is modifed, Preset 2 left "flat").
Also: The Speaker Preset Dirac is offered in the Menue/Inputs/7.1 Analgogue/Preset so I have quite a hard time believing that this is just a "fake" as there is no processing with 7.1 analogue input.
Kind regards., Marcel
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Post by foggy1956 on May 27, 2019 9:22:31 GMT -5
Digging this thread out as I would like to get this clear:
The XMC-1 treats the 7.1 analog inputs as analog only - they are NOT converted into digital, and so cannot be processed in any way. That's what I thought when reading the manual.
That's why I was pretty suprised that it is possible to switch the presets (with audible effect) when 7.1 input is selcted and also to choose "Dirac" this way.
So maybe I don't get it right but to my point of view this means there IS digital processing of the signal coming via 7.1 analogue intup into the XMC-1, except Speaker-/Bass-Management as well as Room correction is not understood as digital processing...
While in dirac togle between direct, stereo, and reference stereo. Any changes? |
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Post by geebo on May 27, 2019 9:24:49 GMT -5
The Dirac preset levels can be set independently of the other presets and are still in effect for the 7.1 inputs. Try setting speaker configurations for all three presets the same and also match all levels across all three presets.
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Post by Marcel on May 27, 2019 9:42:06 GMT -5
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So maybe I don't get it right but to my point of view this means there IS digital processing of the signal coming via 7.1 analogue intup into the XMC-1, except Speaker-/Bass-Management as well as Room correction is not understood as digital processing...
While in dirac togle between direct, stereo, and reference stereo. Any changes? Chosing "7.1 analogue in" as input you cannot switch modes. Display says "Analogue Bypass". |
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Post by Marcel on May 27, 2019 9:49:38 GMT -5
The Dirac preset levels can be set independently of the other presets Yes, I got that. and are still in effect for the 7.1 inputs. If I get you right you just claim that Dirac room correction IS available on 7.1 analogue input. That leads me to the conclusion that there IS digital processing of the analogue input signal as there is no way of taking room correction effect without digital processing. Try setting speaker configurations for all three presets the same and also match all levels across all three presets. Before I do so - what that is supposed to make happen? And what's the expected concluion for 7.1 analogue in? Kind regards, Marcel |
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Post by geebo on May 27, 2019 9:57:15 GMT -5
The Dirac preset levels can be set independently of the other presets Yes, I got that. and are still in effect for the 7.1 inputs. If I get you right you just claim that Dirac room correction IS available on 7.1 analogue input. That leads me to the conclusion that there IS digital processing of the analogue input signal as there is no way of taking room correction effect without digital processing. Try setting speaker configurations for all three presets the same and also match all levels across all three presets. Before I do so - what that is supposed to make happen? And what's the expected concluion for 7.1 analogue in? Kind regards, Marcel You can select any preset for the analog 7.1 inputs (including Dirac) but there is still no digital signal processing. And the speaker levels that are set in the Dirac preset are still active. Setting all speaker configurations the same across all three presets should result in no difference between any of them when the 7.1 analog inputs are chosen. |
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Post by Marcel on May 27, 2019 11:44:58 GMT -5
Ah, now I get it - thanks alot. Though... would be cool if DIRAC would also take effect to this input.
Kind regards, Marcel
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