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Post by benzone on Jan 16, 2016 7:31:49 GMT -5
Okay 1 additional 5 channel amp - check (I really love that holidays sale) 4 additional height speakers - check Now for an updated prepro - Any news on if Emo plans on making a 7.4.2 processor any time in the "relatively" near future? Considering Marantz 8802a Anthem AVM60 Bang for buck performance...I believe Emo could top them both  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 7:44:11 GMT -5
I wish!
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Post by maseline98 on Jan 16, 2016 8:16:03 GMT -5
It doesn't look like it, at least this coming year. I doubt you will even get word from emo when they might be released with the emersa line soon to be released and it(and xmc) lacking atmos and dts-x. I'm in the same boat. I don't have thousands to spend on it. I actually plan to go 5.1.4, and will be running the ceiling speaker wire tonight just to be ready when something more affordable becomes available.
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Post by vneal on Jan 16, 2016 8:17:16 GMT -5
Whatever you decide I would wait and see what the UMC200 replacement offers
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Post by yves on Jan 16, 2016 8:28:31 GMT -5
With 2 subs and 4 height speakers that would be 7.2.4, not 7.4.2, but I wish they would come up with a solution that can support 4.4.4 and 5.4.4 configurations at minimum because 4 individually EQ'd subs are better than only 2, just like 4 height speakers are also better than only 2. Whereas 7.x.x configurations do not interest me because I only have the room space for side surrounds, not rear surrounds so I could still be happy with a 7.2.4 unit that can be shape-shifted by the user into a 5.4.4 unit (as long as it doesn't cost $2,000...).
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jan 16, 2016 14:21:10 GMT -5
You can do two pairs of Side Surrounds: one pair @ 120° or 135° and call it Rear Surround and the other pair @ 75° (slightly ahead of MLP). It's ITU compliant.
About the pre-pro. It was announced that the 16-channel XMR-1 would be introduced this year. I want it, but I am not holding my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 14:30:01 GMT -5
It was just revealed in a correspondence posted on avs
That the "announcement" of the xmr wasn't entirely truthful
It's in its drawing and concept phase lol here is the quote :
Here's the response from the sales dept.:
"The XMR is a ways out for production. It is basically a drawing and a concept at this point. Maybe, only a maybe, the end of this year or early next year. We really don't have a time line at this point. The initial thoughts at this point are 16 channels of output, but again this is just considerations at this point. I have no idea of the final product specifications"
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Post by yves on Jan 16, 2016 15:05:08 GMT -5
You can do two pairs of Side Surrounds: one pair @ 120° or 135° and call it Rear Surround and the other pair @ 75° (slightly ahead of MLP). It's ITU compliant. About the pre-pro. It was announced that the 16-channel XMR-1 would be introduced this year. I want it, but I am not holding my breath. Unfortunately I also don't have the room space for the other pair @ 75° because it would block my doorway, whereas on my ceiling I have enough space for 4 subs in "Toole" configuration (drawing below).  |
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Post by klinemj on Jan 16, 2016 15:27:35 GMT -5
It was just revealed in a correspondence posted on avs That the "announcement" of the xmr wasn't entirely truthful It's in its drawing and concept phase lol here is the quote : Here's the response from the sales dept.: "The XMR is a ways out for production. It is basically a drawing and a concept at this point. Maybe, only a maybe, the end of this year or early next year. We really don't have a time line at this point. The initial thoughts at this point are 16 channels of output, but again this is just considerations at this point. I have no idea of the final product specifications" Personally, I would not take someone's post on AVS as the authoritative view on the topic. But, as far as the OP's question on a 7.4.2 processor, I do think the XMR-1 (or whatever they end up calling it) will be one that fits the OP's description. And, who knows what the timing really is. The XMC-1 took a while in its gestation for many reasons, but the Emersa appeared from nowhere, thanks to their new "say nothing until it's ready to launch" policy. The XMR may appear quickly out of the mist at any time. That said...if I were Emotiva, I would not be in a rush to launch it for 2 reasons: 1) The state of video is in such flux right now that I'd personally let the dust settle there as much as possible then launch it with the very best available at the time. But frankly, I'd have the audio end of it designed, dialed in, and ready - just waiting for the video part to be finalized. 2) With the launch of everything they are about to launch, I'd want to make sure that's 100% nailed and sit back and take the profit from a bunch of new sales for a while. Of course, I'm not Emotiva. Dan. Kathy, Lonnie, and team make those calls... Mark |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 16, 2016 16:51:10 GMT -5
It was just revealed in a correspondence posted on avs That the "announcement" of the xmr wasn't entirely truthful It's in its drawing and concept phase lol here is the quote : Here's the response from the sales dept.: "The XMR is a ways out for production. It is basically a drawing and a concept at this point. Maybe, only a maybe, the end of this year or early next year. We really don't have a time line at this point. The initial thoughts at this point are 16 channels of output, but again this is just considerations at this point. I have no idea of the final product specifications" Personally, I would not take someone's post on AVS as the authoritative view on the topic. But, as far as the OP's question on a 7.4.2 processor, I do think the XMR-1 (or whatever they end up calling it) will be one that fits the OP's description. And, who knows what the timing really is. The XMC-1 took a while in its gestation for many reasons, but the Emersa appeared from nowhere, thanks to their new "say nothing until it's ready to launch" policy. The XMR may appear quickly out of the mist at any time. That said...if I were Emotiva, I would not be in a rush to launch it for 2 reasons: 1) The state of video is in such flux right now that I'd personally let the dust settle there as much as possible then launch it with the very best available at the time. But frankly, I'd have the audio end of it designed, dialed in, and ready - just waiting for the video part to be finalized. 2) With the launch of everything they are about to launch, I'd want to make sure that's 100% nailed and sit back and take the profit from a bunch of new sales for a while. Of course, I'm not Emotiva. Dan. Kathy, Lonnie, and team make those calls... Mark I think you nailed Mark, far too much going on right now in the HDMI, HDCP, video standards and object based sound for me to make a call on a new processor. The UMC-200 is doing just fine  Cheers Gary |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 16:51:57 GMT -5
Then why announce it was coming out in quarter 1 of 2016?
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Post by klinemj on Jan 16, 2016 17:31:44 GMT -5
Then why announce it was coming out in quarter 1 of 2016? I didn't say it was not coming 1Q16. I said it could appear out of the most at any time and that I don't put much credit in a random post even if someone is quoting what they say they heard. I also elaborated on what I would do if I were Emotiva...which I am not. You are the one saying they won't, so you tell us why they said it. Mark |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 16, 2016 17:39:33 GMT -5
Then why announce it was coming out in quarter 1 of 2016? Was it actually announced by Emotiva for a 1st Quarter 2016 launch? The only actual print that I "think"*(unsure) I've read was in a Sound&Vision article(which I can't find right now), and I remember thinking at the time that Dan never said this was a firm date for release, so I took it with a grain of salt. Brian, do you have any links to official release dates by anyone at Emotiva? I'm curious now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 17:47:56 GMT -5
Then why announce it was coming out in quarter 1 of 2016? Was it actually announced by Emotiva for a 1st Quarter 2016 launch? The only actual print that I "think"*(unsure) I've read was in a Sound&Vision article(which I can't find right now), and I remember thinking at the time that Dan never said this was a firm date for release, so I took it with a grain of salt. Brian, do you have any links to official release dates by anyone at Emotiva? I'm curious now. Wasn't it in a podcast? Trust me. No one wants this thing released more than I do lol. |
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Post by brutiarti on Jan 16, 2016 17:52:06 GMT -5
I think that a tentative date was mentioned in one of the old podcasts when Dan was talking about the xmc-1, but nothing was for sure and specially now with the video standards issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 18:01:56 GMT -5
I just went through the first 13 pages of the thread the xmr was announced. I can't find the q1 thing. Maybe I dreamed it lmao
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 16, 2016 18:08:26 GMT -5
Was it actually announced by Emotiva for a 1st Quarter 2016 launch? The only actual print that I "think"*(unsure) I've read was in a Sound&Vision article(which I can't find right now), and I remember thinking at the time that Dan never said this was a firm date for release, so I took it with a grain of salt. Brian, do you have any links to official release dates by anyone at Emotiva? I'm curious now. Wasn't it in a podcast? Trust me. No one wants this thing released more than I do lol. I'm not sure, as I've been searching for the past 30min or so and have yet to come up with him giving an actual release date, only him mentioning that it does exist, 16 channels and that Dirac Unison would be a possible option. I can definitely see this processor being right up your alley with a setup like yours.  I'll keep looking after I have an NFL half-time dinner. Go Patriots. |
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Post by paintedklown on Jan 16, 2016 18:57:05 GMT -5
It was just revealed in a correspondence posted on avs That the "announcement" of the xmr wasn't entirely truthful It's in its drawing and concept phase lol here is the quote : Here's the response from the sales dept.: "The XMR is a ways out for production. It is basically a drawing and a concept at this point. Maybe, only a maybe, the end of this year or early next year. We really don't have a time line at this point. The initial thoughts at this point are 16 channels of output, but again this is just considerations at this point. I have no idea of the final product specifications" Personally, I would not take someone's post on AVS as the authoritative view on the topic. But, as far as the OP's question on a 7.4.2 processor, I do think the XMR-1 (or whatever they end up calling it) will be one that fits the OP's description. And, who knows what the timing really is. The XMC-1 took a while in its gestation for many reasons, but the Emersa appeared from nowhere, thanks to their new "say nothing until it's ready to launch" policy. The XMR may appear quickly out of the mist at any time. That said...if I were Emotiva, I would not be in a rush to launch it for 2 reasons: 1) The state of video is in such flux right now that I'd personally let the dust settle there as much as possible then launch it with the very best available at the time. But frankly, I'd have the audio end of it designed, dialed in, and ready - just waiting for the video part to be finalized. 2) With the launch of everything they are about to launch, I'd want to make sure that's 100% nailed and sit back and take the profit from a bunch of new sales for a while. Of course, I'm not Emotiva. Dan. Kathy, Lonnie, and team make those calls... Mark Excellent point, and your point # 1 drives it home all the more for me. Video is n a serious state of flux right now. The first true 4k BD players are set to hit the market soon, and I saw that there are 8K TV's that were being shown at CES earlier this month. I am waiting for the dust to settle myself, and will continue to enjoy what I have in the meantime. New tech on the horizon doesn't make anybodies current gear suddenly sound bad. I say relax, and wait for the HDMI protocol to settle into something a bit more of stable standard than the constant changing it seems to be going through currently. When that happens, I feel that Emo will come out with something that will have us drooling. LOL! Remember folks, the XMC-1 only took so long because of several false starts and re-designs. The design it currently has is a platform that allows Emotiva to modify it to accommodate changes to the HT world with an efficiency they didn't have before. |
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Post by rhale64 on Jan 17, 2016 2:03:38 GMT -5
The date of 1st quarter 2016 was in DTSX's press release. It shows the products coming out with it. Emotiva XMR 1 or is it RMC 1 is like the second thing listed. And I want it bad. But I want everything up to latest specs also. We need to wait until cedia this year or ces next year probably. For one thing Momentum Data Systems best hdmi board is only 1 hdmi 2.0 in 1 out. This will be an epic fail. I guess they could put two of these boards in but I doubt they would do that. Also newer chips will be coming out to support the new hdr specs. Also Texas Instruments might come out with a newer dsp that does all of our 16 channels. Not that I will be doing that many. I want 7.2.6, but could live with 7.2.4 Everything is to much up in the air right now. Don't get me wrong I want this thing bad. I sold my Krell Foundation, before it lost to much value to purchase this product. I am anticipating that this will ruin resale values of all your older non atmos gear. Especially the high end brands. Just my opinion. And you know what they say.  |
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Post by Lsc on Jan 17, 2016 5:54:36 GMT -5
The concept comment makes sense. When they initially were talking about the RMC-1, I think they were thinking XMC-1 architecture with better DACs and all channels fully balanced with the XPR style front panel.
Since then, Atmos etc came into the picture and the 7.2 architecture no longer became a viable product. So they redesigned the concept which is now a 16 channel pre/pro with Atmos and Dirac Unison for $5k.
Couple of thoughts. First, with the retail model, the $5k price tag may change given the R&D that will obviously go into this product. Second, the timeframe if I was a betting man would guess 2018-2019 release date. Third, unless they comeback with a new XPR line, the XMR-1 seems out of place in Emotivas model lineup being $2500 more expensive than anything else they offer... which begs the question, does it still make sense to go forward with the XMR-1?
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I'll keep looking after I have an NFL half-time dinner. Go Patriots.
