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Post by 2muchht on Jan 17, 2016 20:17:40 GMT -5
Here is the quote I meant to refer to in the initial version of this post: Whatever you decide I would wait and see what the UMC200 replacement offers I may be mistaken, and someone please correct me if I am wrong in this, but given a lineup with the XMR-1 on top, XMC-1 in the middle and ESP as the entry product, doesn't that make the ESP-1 defacto replacement for the UMC-200? Granted, at $899 or $899, the ESP-1 is more than a few dollars more expensive than the UMC-200 was, and while it adds Dirac and the OLED display, it has fewer HDMI inputs. At the proposed price, I have a hard time seeing how so few HDMI inputs will be there. Think about it: Even the newbie is likely to have a cable or satellite box, an optical player of some sort (likely Bluray or UltraHD Blu-ray, a game console (Xbox One, PlayStation or BOTH), a streamer box (AppleTV, Roku, FireTV or more than one of them), Yes, some will want less, but the proliferation of streaming sources along with the need for either cable, satellite or OTA, the continued need for optical disc either for current or legacy content in the highest quality and a game may quickly overcome three HDMI inputs. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. |
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Post by benzone on Jan 18, 2016 8:39:28 GMT -5
Hmmm good points all - I could do another year without. Let's face it, not only are standards still resolving, I have a binder busting total of just 4 Atmos titles so far...Although I really do want to experience those bad boys natively processed.
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Post by minthral on Jan 18, 2016 22:16:08 GMT -5
I think the emotiva Atmos/ DTS processor will be out in about 1 year. This isn't long...time flies. Standards aren't even set today...for example DTS X isnt even available on any AV receiver for another few weeks....though surprising the content already exists.
I am definitely interested and willing to wait....because my experience with using emotiva XMC, XPA amps, and DAC is excellent so far. Hope they keep the 'high quality hardware at not marked up prices' as long as they can. The 11.2 processor will be awesome then. I'm confident that their gear compares to stuff 2 times more expensive (which I wouldnt buy due to diminishing returns and plenty satisfied). Denon/Marantz is not appealing at all after entry to audiophile level gear...tried Denon 7200...was gross.
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Post by cwt on Jan 19, 2016 4:28:08 GMT -5
I may be mistaken, and someone please correct me if I am wrong in this, but given a lineup with the XMR-1 on top, XMC-1 in the middle and ESP as the entry product, doesn't that make the ESP-1 defacto replacement for the UMC-200? Had the same idea 2muchht until Lonnie posted the EMP1 wasnt the umc200 replacement as vneal implies . If this turns into an atmos/dts-x pre pro [ tilting at windmills for sure ] we'll see  |
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Post by urwi on Jan 19, 2016 7:57:50 GMT -5
I couldn't care less which model replaces which. I want Atmos and I want it now  Why isn't there a single processor on the market targeted at value high end? HDMI switcher, Atmos decoding, delay, level, bass management, done. If someone needs room correction then there's plenty of options, e.g. miniDSP. If someone needs bluetooth, streaming, whatever, there's plenty of options. |
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Post by vneal on Jan 19, 2016 8:44:28 GMT -5
Here is the quote I meant to refer to in the initial version of this post: Whatever you decide I would wait and see what the UMC200 replacement offers I may be mistaken, and someone please correct me if I am wrong in this, but given a lineup with the XMR-1 on top, XMC-1 in the middle and ESP as the entry product, doesn't that make the ESP-1 defacto replacement for the UMC-200? Granted, at $899 or $899, the ESP-1 is more than a few dollars more expensive than the UMC-200 was, and while it adds Dirac and the OLED display, it has fewer HDMI inputs. At the proposed price, I have a hard time seeing how so few HDMI inputs will be there. Think about it: Even the newbie is likely to have a cable or satellite box, an optical player of some sort (likely Bluray or UltraHD Blu-ray, a game console (Xbox One, PlayStation or BOTH), a streamer box (AppleTV, Roku, FireTV or more than one of them), Yes, some will want less, but the proliferation of streaming sources along with the need for either cable, satellite or OTA, the continued need for optical disc either for current or legacy content in the highest quality and a game may quickly overcome three HDMI inputs. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Yes you are wrong. There will be a replacement for their best selling processor under the Emotiva name. And like most trickle down products I expect the bang for the buck unit to be priced under $1000 and many here to say why buy the XMC-1. Wait and see. |
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Post by millst on Jan 19, 2016 10:48:32 GMT -5
I couldn't care less which model replaces which. I want Atmos and I want it now Why isn't there a single processor on the market targeted at value high end? HDMI switcher, Atmos decoding, delay, level, bass management, done. If someone needs room correction then there's plenty of options, e.g. miniDSP. If someone needs bluetooth, streaming, whatever, there's plenty of options. People in the processor market are typically not value oriented. Better off looking at receivers with pre outs. More importantly, immersive sound is new technology. If you want it now, your going to pay the early adopter tax. Same with UHD blu-ray and 4K TV. The latter has come down quite a bit since they've been around longer. -tm |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 11:31:36 GMT -5
I couldn't care less which model replaces which. I want Atmos and I want it now Why isn't there a single processor on the market targeted at value high end? HDMI switcher, Atmos decoding, delay, level, bass management, done. If someone needs room correction then there's plenty of options, e.g. miniDSP. If someone needs bluetooth, streaming, whatever, there's plenty of options. People in the processor market are typically not value oriented. Better off looking at receivers with pre outs. More importantly, immersive sound is new technology. If you want it now, your going to pay the early adopter tax. Same with UHD blu-ray and 4K TV. The latter has come down quite a bit since they've been around longer. -tm not really.....the AVR's that are out (and have been for over a year) arent any more expensive than they were before offering atmos etc (assuming the same level of avr in the companies lineup) |
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Post by millst on Jan 19, 2016 11:42:42 GMT -5
Onkyo dropped Audyssey to support Atmos. I haven't heard anyone say Onkyo's Audyssey replacement is comparable. In effect, you are paying there, even if the price is the same.
I'd imagine other manufactures made similar compromises, but I just don't keep up enough on receiver pricing/features. Regardless, my first point was to look at them if you want Atmos cheap.
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Post by 2muchht on Jan 19, 2016 12:47:10 GMT -5
To those who did, indeed, correct me (cwt and vneal) I thank you and stand (ok, sit) corrected.
Definitely looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 13:03:51 GMT -5
Onkyo dropped Audyssey to support Atmos. I haven't heard anyone say Onkyo's Audyssey replacement is comparable. In effect, you are paying there, even if the price is the same. I'd imagine other manufactures made similar compromises, but I just don't keep up enough on receiver pricing/features. Regardless, my first point was to look at them if you want Atmos cheap. -tm that is not why onkyo dropped audyssey (at least not made public) they chose to have a proprietary ARC...and every other manufacturer Yammy, denon (ahich actually improved their audyssey), marantz, anthem...etc...all prices stayed the same between generations...atmos did not make the cost go up. |
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Post by Axis on Jan 19, 2016 13:20:58 GMT -5
1.How many HDMI inputs does the Emersa EMP-1 have.
a) 3
b) 6
c) 4
d) none
2.How many HDMI outputs does the Emersa EMP-1 have.
a) 2
b) 1
c) 5
d) none
3.How many channels does the Emersa EMP-1 have.
a) 7.4.2
b) 7.1
C) 16.4.4
d) none
4.What type of room correction does the Emersa EMP-1 have.
a) Audyssey
B) Atmos
c) Dirac Live
d) none
5.The Texas Instrument Chipset in the EMP-1 is newer than the XMC-1.
a) true
b) false
6.The Emersa EMP-1 has HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2.
a) true
b) false
7.The Emersa EMP-1 outputs are balanced.
a) true
b) false
8.What is the price of the Emersa EMP-1.
a) $10,000
b) $5
c) $999
d) free
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Post by yves on Jan 19, 2016 13:45:28 GMT -5
Audyssey XT32 on a processor is expensive, while Dirac Live seriously outperforms it. Cheaper versions of Audyssey are best left in the "off" position IMO anyway so at the end of the day nothing was lost.
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Post by millst on Jan 19, 2016 13:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by yves on Jan 19, 2016 14:08:26 GMT -5
Just waiting for the UMC-800 to be released...  |
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Whatever you decide I would wait and see what the UMC200 replacement offers
Why isn't there a single processor on the market targeted at value high end? HDMI switcher, Atmos decoding, delay, level, bass management, done. If someone needs room correction then there's plenty of options, e.g. miniDSP. If someone needs bluetooth, streaming, whatever, there's plenty of options.
