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Post by badronald on Jan 19, 2016 23:49:58 GMT -5
I have never heard this theory before. I remember when people would say (This was way before the internet) that clipping was the signal being forced back the other direction and it caused the amp to amplify the signal again and that double signal is what caused distortion. This is what others would tell me. Not what I said !  It may be true for all I know ! I have never really cared much about what is happening electronically. I just try to follow the rules that smart people advise and so far everything has worked out very good. With speaker wires, I have always used good thick wire that has a strong insolation and is not prone to corrosion. I have always only used one positive and one negative to any speaker I have ever own. There may be an exception to that for me with the Emersa EDA-7 7 channels 125 watt amplifier to the Airmotiv T1 towers. I would have two extra channels and I could use one channel for the woofers and one for the mid/tweeter. I do not like the thought of all the extra wires. As soon I find out the specs for the Emersa EDA's and T1's I will know if bi-amping for load purposes is needed. My thought now is to get 5 channels of XPA Gen 3 and one set of speaker wires it is. One set of 12 gauge oxygen free copper with bare wires to the terminals is all you need. Smart people told me that and I believe them. I always wondered how did my baby teeth turn into coins overnight? And even more mystifying, not always the same denomination. And I would wonder how the heck Santa got into our house since we didn't have a chimney. My mom told me she would leave the front door unlocked so he could get in, which made no sense to me in light of how she told me to always make sure to lock the front door. Anyway, these things just came to mind, I don't know why. This is one of many. I'm not saying this make an audible difference, but dont want to be called a liar either en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-wiring |
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Post by Axis on Jan 20, 2016 0:16:57 GMT -5
[This is one of many. I'm not saying this make an audible difference, but dont want to be called a liar either en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-wiring By no means badronald did I think you were making it up. It did not appear to me that you were indorsing Bi-wiring. The post on two runs of 8 gauge only 3 feet long was a hoot and told me for sure you understand things. I really had not heard it put the way you put it. Bi-wiring has always been nonsense to me. Way before I read anything on the internet. To me it goes against common sense from everything I have learned from an early age. My example was not even of Bi-wiring but still has to do with signal interaction with wire. Just a strange thing that I have heard people say about wires and how they effect gear. From Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-wiring"The purported advantage of this split is that it "reduces magnetic interaction in the cable, resulting in better sound" |
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Post by badronald on Jan 20, 2016 12:12:20 GMT -5
[This is one of many. I'm not saying this make an audible difference, but dont want to be called a liar either en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-wiring By no means badronald did I think you were making it up. It did not appear to me that you were indorsing Bi-wiring. The post on two runs of 8 gauge only 3 feet long was a hoot and told me for sure you understand things. I really had not heard it put the way you put it. Bi-wiring has always been nonsense to me. Way before I read anything on the internet. To me it goes against common sense from everything I have learned from an early age. My example was not even of Bi-wiring but still has to do with signal interaction with wire. Just a strange thing that I have heard people say about wires and how they effect gear. From Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-wiring"The purported advantage of this split is that it "reduces magnetic interaction in the cable, resulting in better sound" Axis, My comment it wasn't meant towards you, it was meant to the other comment basically saying that this is a lie. Monkumunku's comment |
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Post by monkumonku on Jan 20, 2016 12:21:16 GMT -5
By no means badronald did I think you were making it up. It did not appear to me that you were indorsing Bi-wiring. The post on two runs of 8 gauge only 3 feet long was a hoot and told me for sure you understand things. I really had not heard it put the way you put it. Bi-wiring has always been nonsense to me. Way before I read anything on the internet. To me it goes against common sense from everything I have learned from an early age. My example was not even of Bi-wiring but still has to do with signal interaction with wire. Just a strange thing that I have heard people say about wires and how they effect gear. From Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi-wiring"The purported advantage of this split is that it "reduces magnetic interaction in the cable, resulting in better sound" Axis, My comment it wasn't meant towards you, it was meant to the other comment basically saying that this is a lie. Monkumunku's comment Sorry, I meant nothing derogatory towards you, certainly not saying you were a liar. Your post was providing information about the supposed advantages or benefits of biwiring. My response was to that concept and not to you, so I apologize for the misunderstanding. |
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Post by deltadube on Jan 20, 2016 14:31:31 GMT -5
DYohn- you mean in your opinion All the justifications........ Because in my opinion you're wrong. Biwiring is based on an exact science. That being that the magnetic fields generated by the low and high frequency currents interact with each other causing an intermodulation distortion. Biwiring may eliminate this distortion as the high and low frequency currents run in seperate cables that MUST BE SEPERATED BY AN INCH OR SO for biwiring to work. Weather you, me, or others can or cannot hear a difference is immaterial to the science. I could hear slight differences with my biwired Vandersteen 3As and my triwired Hyperion 938Ws. Russ Huh? That is total nonsense. I cant hear any difference.. ive used a few cables in my day.. but the big fat bi wire cables do look at lot better lol... whats a few hundred more in audio equipment to stroke your ego!!! cheers |
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2016 16:35:54 GMT -5
I'm seeing 16 gauge "speaker wire" zip cord for between $10 and $20 - for a 100 foot roll - so why settle for anything less?  (My main objection to 18 gauge wire is that I've actually had a few binding posts and banana plugs that wouldn't tighten against the 18 gauge wire because it's too thin.) nothing like big fat cables!!! Welding cables may be the answer to your prayers.  |
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Post by deltadube on Jan 20, 2016 16:39:54 GMT -5
nothing like big fat cables!!! Welding cables may be the answer to your prayers. I have my big fat snake cables  sounding good with my emo gear! cheers |
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Post by paintedklown on Jan 20, 2016 17:47:54 GMT -5
Um...12 gauge Monoprice for the win? I do bi-wire my mains with the aforementioned Monoprice wires, but I will admit that I did not hear a difference once I did. I had the wire on hand and the XPA-1's have two sets of outputs...so I tried it, heard no difference, and have just been doing it that way ever since. By the way, where are you guys finding 8 ga speaker wire? I don't think I need it, but I haven't even seen wire that thick for sale. |
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2016 18:09:45 GMT -5
...................................................................................................... By the way, where are you guys finding 8 ga speaker wire? I don't think I need it, but I haven't even seen wire that thick for sale. |
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Post by Cogito on Jan 20, 2016 19:50:28 GMT -5
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Post by badronald on Jan 20, 2016 19:52:43 GMT -5
Axis, My comment it wasn't meant towards you, it was meant to the other comment basically saying that this is a lie. Monkumunku's comment Sorry, I meant nothing derogatory towards you, certainly not saying you were a liar. Your post was providing information about the supposed advantages or benefits of biwiring. My response was to that concept and not to you, so I apologize for the misunderstanding. No Prob Monkumonku |
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Post by badronald on Jan 20, 2016 19:55:56 GMT -5
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Post by Boomzilla on Jan 20, 2016 20:48:03 GMT -5
...By the way, where are you guys finding 8 ga speaker wire? I don't think I need it, but I haven't even seen wire that thick for sale. Frequently used in auto wiring. Readily available on eBay. And, no, you really don't need it. |
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It may be true for all I know ! 
sounding good with my emo gear!
