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Post by geebo on Jan 27, 2016 15:36:50 GMT -5
I don't know why some people have to generalize other people's point of views when suggesting alternatives such as TIDAL. TIDAL is another means to enjoy music in hi-fi cd quality with millions of songs to tap into. I do not recall anyone suggesting that TIDAL taking the place of other formats as original cd's, other streaming services or ripping. It seems that there has been more than one thread on this forum about people having issues with ripping their music and what is the best software to use. TIDAL simplifies all of that not to mention album art and storage and the ability of its users to create playlists much easier than (for example) iTunes. Another asset of TIDAL is there Music videos which can be easily projected to your iPad, TV, or big screen projector with the help of APPLE TV. I think some people get a little offensive when someone suggests something new and to think outside the box even with a FREE NO OBLIGATION TRAIL period. Face it that the NEW will sometime in the near future be the old and streaming may be the only means to access music as well as video. Perhaps the only hard copy of music available will be vinly...won't that be a kick in the head. Some say pot-ay-to and some say pot-ah-to... |
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Post by djoel on Jan 28, 2016 10:45:54 GMT -5
I have a ripping,migrating from one hhd to another questions.
I didn't want to start a new thread about this subject.
I'm backing 750gb of music from one hard drive to another, I started doing this last night about 12 am, I got up about 7.00 am and noticed it was still going, but about to finish maybe 26 minutes to go, made some breakfast 30 later I noticed it looks like it was starting all over again?
So I paused it to do some investigation, and see if I'm duplicating it the files, which I would really hate.
Now I'm thinking if the 750gb didn't actually take 6 hours to copy, clone or what ever is the term.
Another question, about dbPowerAmp, I noticed there are more than one software I down loaded, one might be a converter? It's in my HTPC at the moment and I don't recall exact name, but I've read of people converting their music from let's say MP3, to flac? Is this what the converter is use for? If so how well does it do the conversion, any drawbacks if it's even possible with dbPowerAmp?
Thanks
Dan
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Post by djoel on Jan 28, 2016 10:52:34 GMT -5
djoel - I think dbPoweramp is a better ripper. To me, I saw no reason to use Jriver in any part of the ripping process. Thanks Goose, I was looking for a clean method of ripping, with not so much jumping from one program to another. What I'm trying to say, I thought they worked together some how. It's perhaps why in my little head, I like JRiver as it seems no fuss, a few steps ripping. Cheers Dan |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Jan 28, 2016 13:20:02 GMT -5
Dan - A lot of the reason I liked dbPoweramp was because I was (re)ripping about 2000 CDs to FLAC. They have a great batch ripper, assuming you have something it can control. In my case, it was an old Sony VGP-XL1B2 Media Changer. It can hold 200 CDs (or DVDs), and is connected to a PC via Firewire. I've seen them on eBay for < $100.
I don't think they're good for much else than bulk ripping these days. They once integrated with Windows Media Center, but as know, that product is kaput.
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Post by KeithL on Jan 28, 2016 14:15:10 GMT -5
The dBPowerAmp suite includes a ripper, a converter, a batch converter, and a CD burner... Your question is somewhat more complex than you might assume... * If you are doing a "lossless conversion" (going from one lossless format to another, like from FLAC to WAV or WAV to FLAC) then, by definition, any converter that isn't broken will do a perfect job. (Both jRiver and dBPowerAmp will do a perfect job. There are, however, a whole slew of more dubious "low end" programs out there that in fact may not.) * If you're converting from a lossless format to a lossy format (like from WAV to MP3), then the quality of the conversion does in fact matter a great deal, and some converters will produce results that sound batter, or take up less space for a given level of sound quality, than others. Although this isn't something I do much of, both jRiver and dBPowerAmp seem to do a "credible job" doing this. (You may well find others that don't do it nearly as well, and perhaps even one or two that do it better....) Bear in mind that, whenever you convert to a lossy format, information is discarded, and so you lose quality; and, every time you convert from one lossy format to another this loss is compounded. * If you have a file that is already in some lossy compressed format (like MP3 or AAC), then you're sort of screwed. When the file was originally converted to that lossy format, a significant amount of the musical information was actually discarded - and it cannot be gotten back. (How much information was lost usually depends on how much compression was used; smaller files = lower quality; and on the original program used.) You can convert an MP3 to a WAV, or to a FLAC file, but it will never have better quality than the MP3 file had to begin with. (There are a few programs that may try, with some success, to "repair the damage", but you can't get back what was lost - so you can't turn that MP3 file back into the ORIGINAL WAV or FLAC file; all you'll succeed in doing is making it bigger. About the only reason you'd want to do this would be compatibility. For example, if you have an MP3 file, and your Apple music player won't play MP3s, converting it to another lossy format like AAC would reduce the quality even further, so it might make sense to convert your MP3 file into a WAV file - which almost everything can play.) And, yes, if you really want to do this, I'm pretty sure both jRiver and dBPowerAmp would do an excellent job of doing this as well. Your question about copying is far too complex to have a single answer. Windows is often stunningly inaccurate in its time estimates; some programs will actually restart if they detect an error in copying, or if the process was interrupted, and some copying programs check their results while others do not. Each backup program has its own set of strengths and weaknesses. However, most backup programs have an option somewhere you can use to instruct them to "verify copies" (and you should always do so for important backups); so it's quite possible that your program had completed the first (copy) step and was starting on the second (verify) step. (Of course verifying your copies about doubles the amount of time the process takes.) Most programs will report "copy succeeded" and even "copy verified" when they complete. There are also programs which can store a checksum for a file, or a set of files; you can then use that program later to verify that the files haven't changed. This is handy to verify that copies are identical to the original, and to simply test your library now and them to confirm that nothing has gotten damaged (one such program is CDCheck; it's intended for testing CDs, but also works on files and folders). I have a ripping,migrating from one hhd to another questions. I didn't want to start a new thread about this subject. I'm backing 750gb of music from one hard drive to another, I started doing this last night about 12 am, I got up about 7.00 am and noticed it was still going, but about to finish maybe 26 minutes to go, made some breakfast 30 later I noticed it looks like it was starting all over again? So I paused it to do some investigation, and see if I'm duplicating it the files, which I would really hate. Now I'm thinking if the 750gb didn't actually take 6 hours to copy, clone or what ever is the term. Another question, about dbPowerAmp, I noticed there are more than one software I down loaded, one might be a converter? It's in my HTPC at the moment and I don't recall exact name, but I've read of people converting their music from let's say MP3, to flac? Is this what the converter is use for? If so how well does it do the conversion, any drawbacks if it's even possible with dbPowerAmp? Thanks Dan |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Jan 28, 2016 15:03:32 GMT -5
Dan,
Why didn't you just clone the disk?
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Post by mshump on Jan 28, 2016 18:40:48 GMT -5
I downloaded the free trial of dbpoweramp today and ripped a few discs. I liked it and all went smooth. when I rip on Jriver sometimes my cd drive sounds like its going to destruct and is very noisy, with db it was very smooth and quiet. I liked how more intuitive it was for changing titles etc. I think it's a bit better than Jrivers ripping. I have used Jriver for a few years and have really figured out how to use it pretty well for my use.
I went to the dbpoweramp website and looked up the purchase price and that turned me off completely. A single computer license is 39.00 and a license for up to 5 is 58.00. I think it's a little pricey for me when I get good results with Jriver.
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