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Post by gus4emo on Feb 26, 2016 20:05:35 GMT -5
Hi all, just finished breaking the HB1 MK2 for left and right and the HC1 MK2 center plus the VTF15H MK2, tried it, 9.2 step up, the rest of the speakers are Deftech 800's, XPA7 and XPA200, and WOOOOWWWWW, I will be watching my whole movie collection again, lol, yes it sounds that good...
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Post by vcautokid on Feb 26, 2016 21:32:17 GMT -5
Been a big fan of Dr. Poh's work. He is the creator of HSU Speaker and Subwoofer products. They sound great, and are great value. Also met him in Chicago for the Axpona show, and was as nice as can be. Enjoy your system.
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Post by gus4emo on Feb 27, 2016 0:23:32 GMT -5
I would like to meet a guy like that.
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Post by vcautokid on Feb 27, 2016 10:04:01 GMT -5
Here you go. A very down to earth and humble gentleman, with great talent. He was a joy to talk too.
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Post by gus4emo on Feb 27, 2016 11:03:17 GMT -5
Lol, I have seen pics of him, I know that actually one can call the company and speak to him if he is available, can't get better than that, got to love the guy.
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 27, 2016 11:22:24 GMT -5
Dr. Hsu is a TRUE engineer, not some snake oil salesman like the guy at Audioquest. Excellent and reasonably priced products and great service. It's such a refreshing contrast to visit their room at an audio show, with their use of lamp cord connecting the speakers driven by an AVR versus some of the other puffed up rooms using cords thicker than boa constrictors after eating a couple of pigs, and tube equipment that looks more like an aerial view of an airport. Thing is, the Hsu stuff stands up to and sounds better than a lot of that other fancy gear.
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Post by guitarforlife on Feb 27, 2016 11:45:01 GMT -5
Dr. Hsu is a TRUE engineer, not some snake oil salesman like the guy at Audioquest. Excellent and reasonably priced products and great service. It's such a refreshing contrast to visit their room at an audio show, with their use of lamp cord connecting the speakers driven by an AVR versus some of the other puffed up rooms using cords thicker than boa constrictors after eating a couple of pigs, and tube equipment that looks more like an aerial view of an airport. Thing is, the Hsu stuff stands up to and sounds better than a lot of that other fancy gear. Just a side note to your above. I think it is funny that I own the best made guitar gear you can buy and lets put into perspective the some of all parts per price. Mesa Boogie dual rectifier ALL tube head made in America brand new $1949.00, Mesa Boogie Four speaker amp cabinet $999.00. Cord to plug guitar into amp Made in America Bullet Cable $65.00. Any nice American made Guitar, PRS, Gibson LP, Taylor, Ernie Ball, Suhr. Will run you about $4000.00. So lets see this is every thing needed to MAKE the music we listen to on a Stereo with $25,000.00 speakers $6000.00 Power amps $5000,00 pre amps and $6000.00 turn tables with a 3-12 k cartridge and $1000.00 cables. Now do the math. In my opinion audiophiles are being over charged just because company's know they can. A audiophile has a different mind set that allows them to be ripped off. Now I know it can be said that this and that is built to do this and that. But the thing that remains is this if you take all the parts used to build that same American made tube amp from Mesa Boogie are they not the same parts that go into the super expensive tube HiFi amp? I know the tube are. And I would say most of the other parts are. It is all marketing. Oh, On another note. My equipment has been loaded and unloaded by monkeys it has been stored in sub zero weather and extreme heat it has been bounced up and down roads and high ways for miles and miles it has been dropped bumped kicked and knocked over. It has been in dance halls, bars, wedding halls, ski hills indoors and out doors. And guess what besides tubes being replaced it has ALWAYS, ALWAYS WORKED!! Try that with your $25,000.00 speakers and $6000.00 tube amp.
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Post by gus4emo on Feb 27, 2016 13:25:26 GMT -5
Only one thing that I would like to see is why not add shipping to the price of the product and have it set, for instance, a sub instead of being $899 plus $143 shipping why not make it $1000 shipping included, we save $43, if the sub takes 2 weeks to arrive so be it, I can understand if goes from California to NY then charge an extra $20, just a thought, what do you think?
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 27, 2016 13:32:28 GMT -5
Dr. Hsu is a TRUE engineer, not some snake oil salesman like the guy at Audioquest. Excellent and reasonably priced products and great service. It's such a refreshing contrast to visit their room at an audio show, with their use of lamp cord connecting the speakers driven by an AVR versus some of the other puffed up rooms using cords thicker than boa constrictors after eating a couple of pigs, and tube equipment that looks more like an aerial view of an airport. Thing is, the Hsu stuff stands up to and sounds better than a lot of that other fancy gear. Just a side note to your above. I think it is funny that I own the best made guitar gear you can buy and lets put into perspective the some of all parts per price. Mesa Boogie dual rectifier ALL tube head made in America brand new $1949.00, Mesa Boogie Four speaker amp cabinet $999.00. Cord to plug guitar into amp Made in America Bullet Cable $65.00. Any nice American made Guitar, PRS, Gibson LP, Taylor, Ernie Ball, Suhr. Will run you about $4000.00. So lets see this is every thing needed to MAKE the music we listen to on a Stereo with $25,000.00 speakers $6000.00 Power amps $5000,00 pre amps and $6000.00 turn tables with a 3-12 k cartridge and $1000.00 cables. Now do the math. In my opinion audiophiles are being over charged just because company's know they can. A audiophile has a different mind set that allows them to be ripped off. Now I know it can be said that this and that is built to do this and that. But the thing that remains is this if you take all the parts used to build that same American made tube amp from Mesa Boogie are they not the same parts that go into the super expensive tube HiFi amp? I know the tube are. And I would say most of the other parts are. It is all marketing. Oh, On another note. My equipment has been loaded and unloaded by monkeys it has been stored in sub zero weather and extreme heat it has been bounced up and down roads and high ways for miles and miles it has been dropped bumped kicked and knocked over. It has been in dance halls, bars, wedding halls, ski hills indoors and out doors. And guess what besides tubes being replaced it has ALWAYS, ALWAYS WORKED!! Try that with your $25,000.00 speakers and $6000.00 tube amp. Yeah but that's musician gear versus audio gear. Apples and oranges. Audio gear requires a special undercoating and sealant applied to it so you really can't compare the two. So you mean there's no high-def or high-resolution guitar strings out there?
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Post by guitarforlife on Feb 27, 2016 13:36:27 GMT -5
Just a side note to your above. I think it is funny that I own the best made guitar gear you can buy and lets put into perspective the some of all parts per price. Mesa Boogie dual rectifier ALL tube head made in America brand new $1949.00, Mesa Boogie Four speaker amp cabinet $999.00. Cord to plug guitar into amp Made in America Bullet Cable $65.00. Any nice American made Guitar, PRS, Gibson LP, Taylor, Ernie Ball, Suhr. Will run you about $4000.00. So lets see this is every thing needed to MAKE the music we listen to on a Stereo with $25,000.00 speakers $6000.00 Power amps $5000,00 pre amps and $6000.00 turn tables with a 3-12 k cartridge and $1000.00 cables. Now do the math. In my opinion audiophiles are being over charged just because company's know they can. A audiophile has a different mind set that allows them to be ripped off. Now I know it can be said that this and that is built to do this and that. But the thing that remains is this if you take all the parts used to build that same American made tube amp from Mesa Boogie are they not the same parts that go into the super expensive tube HiFi amp? I know the tube are. And I would say most of the other parts are. It is all marketing. Oh, On another note. My equipment has been loaded and unloaded by monkeys it has been stored in sub zero weather and extreme heat it has been bounced up and down roads and high ways for miles and miles it has been dropped bumped kicked and knocked over. It has been in dance halls, bars, wedding halls, ski hills indoors and out doors. And guess what besides tubes being replaced it has ALWAYS, ALWAYS WORKED!! Try that with your $25,000.00 speakers and $6000.00 tube amp. Yeah but that's musician gear versus audio gear. Apples and oranges. Audio gear requires a special undercoating and sealant applied to it so you really can't compare the two. So you mean there's no high-def or high-resolution guitar strings out there? Actually they do make all kinds of fancy strings. I NEVER buy them I buy Bulk cheap strings and Like them best very used and stretched out. I have read articles with Eddy Van Halen and he said the same thing he likes his strings used as well.
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 27, 2016 13:41:49 GMT -5
Yeah but that's musician gear versus audio gear. Apples and oranges. Audio gear requires a special undercoating and sealant applied to it so you really can't compare the two. So you mean there's no high-def or high-resolution guitar strings out there? Actually they do make all kinds of fancy strings. I NEVER buy them I buy Bulk cheap strings and Like them best very used and stretched out. I have read articles with Eddy Van Halen and he said the same thing he likes his strings used as well. Maybe that's because of the burn-in/break-in time needed for the strings. Do people write guitar string reviews where at first the strings are harsh and thin sounding and have a very narrow soundstage but after using them for 900 hours they have a liquid midrange and grand canyon soundstage?
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Post by guitarforlife on Feb 27, 2016 13:45:40 GMT -5
Actually they do make all kinds of fancy strings. I NEVER buy them I buy Bulk cheap strings and Like them best very used and stretched out. I have read articles with Eddy Van Halen and he said the same thing he likes his strings used as well. Maybe that's because of the burn-in/break-in time needed for the strings. Do people write guitar string reviews where at first the strings are harsh and thin sounding and have a very narrow soundstage but after using them for 900 hours they have a liquid midrange and grand canyon soundstage? Well that's the funny thing. The reason I like my strings used is what you just said. I feel the brightness is gone and to me they "mellow" out so to speak. But if you ask guitar players about this it is like bringing the speaker wire debate to the audio guys. Different strokes. No wrong no right answer. Just opinion. Oh, lets not even bring the string gauge in to debate that is a whole other can of worms.
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Post by 509Paul on Feb 27, 2016 14:39:03 GMT -5
Yeah but that's musician gear versus audio gear. Apples and oranges. Audio gear requires a special undercoating and sealant applied to it so you really can't compare the two I like to lay all my cables out in the sun for at least an hour before any critical listening... I feel the sound has a nice warm sound afterwards and the cables slightly expand allowing the music to breath.
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Post by leonski on Mar 6, 2016 20:49:22 GMT -5
The HSU factory store up in Orange County is a kick, too. One of the WORST shaped listiening rooms I've ever see. A long, narrow, rectangular room with an 8foot ceiling. Just awful.
First class bunch and they even helped me out to my car with my (than new) sub. I saved a bundle on shipping and got a cash discount.
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Post by alucard on Mar 7, 2016 19:20:38 GMT -5
Only one thing that I would like to see is why not add shipping to the price of the product and have it set, for instance, a sub instead of being $899 plus $143 shipping why not make it $1000 shipping included, we save $43, if the sub takes 2 weeks to arrive so be it, I can understand if goes from California to NY then charge an extra $20, just a thought, what do you think? In this scenario he should charge $1,042 or $1,050 if you like pretty numbers. Also, if shipping costs are built in he would eat those fees if someone decided to return their purchase (for full refund).
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Post by gus4emo on Mar 7, 2016 19:37:21 GMT -5
But how many returns would he get? These products are AWESOME.
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Post by alucard on Mar 7, 2016 19:51:49 GMT -5
But how many returns would he get? These products are AWESOME. I have not tried them but everything i've read leads me to believe none
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Post by leonski on Mar 7, 2016 20:18:33 GMT -5
And what do you do for the FEW lunatics here in SoCal who can simply drive (maybe 70 miles each way) to and from HSU HQ?
This isn't a car, where shipping might be listed as a seperate line item but is part of the NON-negotiable part of the price. Even if you go to wherever and pick it up off the assembly line.
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Post by 509Paul on Mar 7, 2016 23:29:32 GMT -5
I had an HSU subwoofer that had a manufacturer defect and HSU paid for the return shipping for me and refunded the entire purchase price including the initial shipping to me.
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