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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 3, 2016 1:54:57 GMT -5
I'm working at building out my basement HT, going to be getting a JVC DLA-RS4910 and 110" screen (still working on which one). I currently have 2 MFW-15's powered by an iNuke3000DSP and have DIY Sound Group Karma-8's for the L/R and a Fusion 6 Vibe center. They work very well and am pretty happy with them. While thinking about what to do for surrounds, I was looking at the VOLT-8's to use as surrounds. I've gotten a little tired of building my own speakers as well as miss the grand 'ole box opening of new gear  So I began looking and came across the Airmotiv 6S'. This got me thinking about surround effects and how great it would be to have a full 7.0 of exactly the same gear. So I've gotten used to having pretty good dynamics and "slam" with my current speakers and the compression drivers are very revealing and open, I like them! I'm curious if anyone has done any comparisons between "pro" style speakers and the Airmotiv's? I'm concerned that the Airmotiv's may not have the open impact that the speakers I currently have (and would build for the surrounds). My room is a sealed 13x17x8 room that will be dedicated for HT. Seating will be roughly 12' away from the front wall the speakers will be on in front of. I have power outlets right where I need them to power them all so that normal issue isn't actually an issue for me. Curious to hear the thoughts of those that have actually heard them Scott |
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Post by vcautokid on Mar 3, 2016 8:46:46 GMT -5
I think you could do very well with the Airmotiv 6s speakers. Firstly these are designed with the pro audio or pro audio post production or mix and mastering in mind. The Airmotiv speakers are also amazing for HT applications as well. Amplifier and speaker optimized. No more figuring for instance where is the amplifier going.
You simply locate, supply power and signal, and you are running. I use the Stealth and Airmotiv speakers myself on a room size similar to yours. I have to say,I am never wanting for more. Dynamics, and imaging, and sense of scale is excellent. In conjunction with the excellent XMC-1, and my favorite sources, movies and music never sounded better. You can't go wrong.
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Post by pop on Mar 3, 2016 9:05:55 GMT -5
Yes, do it! I had 5 stealth 6 and the results were stunning.
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Post by pop on Mar 3, 2016 9:06:49 GMT -5
Side note. I had Pendragons for a surround sound for a while, and the Pendragons had more mid bass slam than the stealths, but a couple of really good subs will fix you right up.
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 3, 2016 10:29:48 GMT -5
I think you could do very well with the Airmotiv 6s speakers. Firstly these are designed with the pro audio or pro audio post production or mix and mastering in mind. The Airmotiv speakers are also amazing for HT applications as well. Amplifier and speaker optimized. No more figuring for instance where is the amplifier going. You simply locate, supply power and signal, and you are running. I use the Stealth and Airmotiv speakers myself on a room size similar to yours. I have to say,I am never wanting for more. Dynamics, and imaging, and sense of scale is excellent. In conjunction with the excellent XMC-1, and my favorite sources, movies and music never sounded better. You can't go wrong. So I take it you use the Stealth for the front 3 and Airmotiv for your surrounds? I'm currently running a Marantz SR-7008 that has XT32 so I wasn't worried about figuring out external amp placement (I'm going to build or buy a rack to house all the gear at the rear of the room) and equalization should be a snap! I figured details would be good with these, just a bit concerned with the 6-1/2" driver if I'm going to get enough mid-bass impact. My subs do great and are crossed at 80hz currently and MORE than pressurize the room, just want to make sure I'm covered above 80hz with good slam and impact. |
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 3, 2016 10:30:34 GMT -5
Side note. I had Pendragons for a surround sound for a while, and the Pendragons had more mid bass slam than the stealths, but a couple of really good subs will fix you right up. This is my concern, this mid-bass slam and what I'd be lacking (if I would) going to such a small speaker. |
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Post by pop on Mar 3, 2016 10:33:54 GMT -5
Side note. I had Pendragons for a surround sound for a while, and the Pendragons had more mid bass slam than the stealths, but a couple of really good subs will fix you right up. This is my concern, this mid-bass slam and what I'd be lacking (if I would) going to such a small speaker. This line of speakers does boy disappoint. My wife liked the stealth in a surround sound better than the Pendragon. Augment with really good subs and your experience will be fantastic. I have kept 2 of my stealth 6 for a stereo setup downstairs, and I don't see myself getting rid of them. I think in the audio industry they are in the top 10 as far as value goes. |
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 3, 2016 10:41:59 GMT -5
This is my concern, this mid-bass slam and what I'd be lacking (if I would) going to such a small speaker. This line of speakers does boy disappoint. My wife liked the stealth in a surround sound better than the Pendragon. Augment with really good subs and your experience will be fantastic. I have kept 2 of my stealth 6 for a stereo setup downstairs, and I don't see myself getting rid of them. I think in the audio industry they are in the top 10 as far as value goes. So I take it you aren't running the Stealth anymore for surround? What are you running now and why did you switch if you don't mind me asking? |
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Post by pop on Mar 3, 2016 13:43:45 GMT -5
I had a theater room downstairs in a smaller room. I turned it into a 2channel room and moved the theater upstairs.
I have a 140" SI slate motorized, Epson 5030, 3 Martin logan Vanquish in ceiling for front 3, 2 Martin logan EL-R for surrounds, and a PSA V3600i sub.
The stealths surround sound sounded better, but the experience is whole upstairs.
I'll get pictures up soon. Repairing some drywall and painting, I'll get them up when everything looks done
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 3, 2016 16:27:25 GMT -5
Having set up a couple of stereo 2.1 systems based on Airmotive 6's, if was redoing my 5.1 system I'd definitely use them. With 210 watts each (100 + 110) they have plenty of grunt down to 43 hz, then I'd use a sub to fill in below that.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by Loop 7 on Mar 3, 2016 17:19:42 GMT -5
I just really like the concept of identical, powered speakers in a theater. There's something so minimalist and pure that I find compelling.
I think I've even seen some rooms with an Oppo as the only component.
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 3, 2016 17:28:18 GMT -5
I just really like the concept of identical, powered speakers in a theater. There's something so minimalist and pure that I find compelling. I think I've even seen some rooms with an Oppo as the only component. Agreed, that's part of what my draw is. All 7 speakers being absolutely identical is going to give the most realistic sense of surround and effects possibly (at least I think so). Having them all be powered is even cooler! I just need to find someone in the Seattle area so I can go listen to them. Anyone wanna have me over, I can bring an adult beverage as compensation  Scott |
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Post by vcautokid on Mar 3, 2016 19:02:36 GMT -5
You can run Stealth up front, or Airmotiv all around. They compliment each other very well. Like 3 Stealth 8 for the front stage, and 4 Airmotiv 5s or 6s for surrounds. Or Airmotiv 6s all around for that symmetry that is amazing, and the budget a bit friendlier.
I think these speakers are so versatile, I cannot think of any audio application they cannot do well.
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 20, 2016 0:14:27 GMT -5
Does anyone in the Seattle area have 6S' that I could come listen to???
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Post by garbulky on Mar 20, 2016 15:46:54 GMT -5
What were your current speakers that had slam?
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 20, 2016 18:49:44 GMT -5
My current speakers don't and that's part of the problem. I have some DIY Sound Group Karma-8's and the Fusion-6 Vibe Center. I upgraded all the crossover components in the Karma's with Sonicap's and Mills Resistors and Air Core Inductors. They sound good, just don't have any mid-bass impact. It's been difficult to get them to blend well with my subs b/c of it. The compression horn tweeters do great, though. I love horns and ribbon tweeters  |
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Post by drtrey3 on Mar 21, 2016 9:20:55 GMT -5
The Airmotivs all around will be great. But for movies you need a subwoofer.
Trey
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Post by garbulky on Mar 21, 2016 9:52:33 GMT -5
Yes. If your previous speakers which look like they are pretty big and beeffy couldn't do it in your room, it's possible these may not either. I felt the bass was adequate but it won't give you the lowest octave without a sub (for authority). You may have better results treating your room with 24X48 thick 4 inch panels. I found that really help reinforce the punch in my room. www.atsacoustics.com/item--ATS-Acoustic-Panel-24-x-48-x-4--1008.html |
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 21, 2016 17:39:15 GMT -5
The Airmotivs all around will be great. But for movies you need a subwoofer. Trey I have dual MFW-15's run off an iNuke3000DSP so I've got lots of low end grunt. It's above the crossover frequency of 80hz till around 160-180hz where they feel like they don't integrate well. I also think I need to get a proper mic and start running tests to see where I'm really sitting! |
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Post by skeeter99 on Mar 21, 2016 17:40:10 GMT -5
Yes. If your previous speakers which look like they are pretty big and beeffy couldn't do it in your room, it's possible these may not either. I felt the bass was adequate but it won't give you the lowest octave without a sub (for authority). You may have better results treating your room with 24X48 thick 4 inch panels. I found that really help reinforce the punch in my room. www.atsacoustics.com/item--ATS-Acoustic-Panel-24-x-48-x-4--1008.htmlI've thought about doing panels as well. I'm going to be moving my room around soon and will see if that helps things out. After that I'll probably be looking into panels as well. Thanks for the suggestion! |
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So I began looking and came across the Airmotiv 6S'. This got me thinking about surround effects and how great it would be to have a full 7.0 of exactly the same gear.
