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Post by bootman on May 6, 2016 5:15:02 GMT -5
Why not an Anthem AVR if you are on Canada?
I'm sure you can find a model in your price range.
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Post by edrummereasye on May 6, 2016 9:18:30 GMT -5
I was added to the pre-order list for the xmc-1 a few years back when it was going to be $999 and a replacement for the emc-1(?). I was hoping to replace my lmc-1 with it but stopped looking a while ago once the expected price reached $2000. This leaves me wondering what to do. I don't have an imminent need to upgrade except for switchable HDMI inputs, legacy inputs, headphone jack, and perhaps a phone input. I see that the UMC-200 is retired and probably would not be interested in it with all the issues I read about it and the difficult firmware update. I don't have a discount card but was promised the discount (was it 40%). So, where does that leave me? I would be interested in a mid-level processor, in the $999-1500 range if I can still get my discount. What's in the pipeline that would be suitable for me? Is there an alternate currently available (there is an alphabet soup of new products I'm not familiar with)? The xmc-1 looks real nice and I really like the upgradeability option but it's way out of my price range and I have no need for the high-end room correction and balanced inputs. BTW I never got a call when the xmc-1 eventually came out. Hmmmm. Cheers Generally speaking, notifications for the XMC-1 pre-order list were done via e-mail. The initial price increase was ostensibly because, it's not the same unit that was originally planned...a whole new architecture than the Cirrus-based models; plus they moved from Emo-Q to Trinnov to Dirac along the way. The UMC-200 is not a bad unit at all, and at the time, full PEQ in that price range was a pleasant surprise...but as you said, discontinued and won't support newer formats, if you're into that sort of thing. Mine is still happily doing a great job in a second room. Agreed with others, your 40% should be on file at HQ. |
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Post by synmag on May 7, 2016 23:48:47 GMT -5
Yes, I did. Phono is a nice to have low priority, perhaps xps-1 would work if I needed it. I have a bunch of records but no turntable currently. Legacy is a bit more of a problem but it may not be a deal breaker. I can always hook up to TV and send audio through optical if I had to. If you do have 40% off synmag [ 25% ufl would be a certainty imo] apart from giving better value the dearer the component; the emersa emp1 is more upmarket [ as Lonnie has said in comparison to the xmc1] with Ime sure most would agree superior dirac room eq compared to the basex emoq2 . Those who saw the emersa in the skin at axpona were impressed with its looks in real life . I like a proper potentiometer too but then again I use the harmony remote so it depends on your habits how important this is ? How many analog inputs do you need ? A couple of analog sp/dif converters may do like this one ; only from a local source to you of course  www.cablechick.com.au/cables/avencore-analog-to-digital-audio-converter-stereo-audio-to-toslink-digital-coaxial.htmlAnother factor is your power amp ; do you fancy matching class d or the basex's class a/b ? or no need atm ? EDIT: Just to clarify I am referring to Axis's post with the xmc-700 below... Now that's a design I can live with. I love the simplicity of this design where a few buttons control everything yet the tactile feel of the volume control is there. I'm not quite sure what it is about the satisfying feel of turning the volume knob. Even though I use the remote mostly for movies, I do use the volume knob frequently as I walk by the processor when I listen to music. Anyone know how the sound quality will stack up compared to the LMC-1? I'm very happy with the sound of my lmc and don't necessarily need to move up the chain. I would need two analogue inputs for a tuner and I still have tape deck as I have a quite a few cassettes that I don't have in other formats. |
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Post by synmag on May 7, 2016 23:57:23 GMT -5
Why not an Anthem AVR if you are on Canada? I'm sure you can find a model in your price range. I want to keep my power amp that I love the sound of (Rotel RMB-1075, yes I only use 5 channels as I'm in a condo) and I also would like to use the 40% discount which should by me a better unit than another brand without the discount. Which AVR did you have in mind? One with pre-outs so it can be used as a processor? |
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Post by synmag on May 8, 2016 0:15:13 GMT -5
I was added to the pre-order list for the xmc-1 a few years back when it was going to be $999 and a replacement for the emc-1(?). I was hoping to replace my lmc-1 with it but stopped looking a while ago once the expected price reached $2000. This leaves me wondering what to do. I don't have an imminent need to upgrade except for switchable HDMI inputs, legacy inputs, headphone jack, and perhaps a phone input. I see that the UMC-200 is retired and probably would not be interested in it with all the issues I read about it and the difficult firmware update. I don't have a discount card but was promised the discount (was it 40%). So, where does that leave me? I would be interested in a mid-level processor, in the $999-1500 range if I can still get my discount. What's in the pipeline that would be suitable for me? Is there an alternate currently available (there is an alphabet soup of new products I'm not familiar with)? The xmc-1 looks real nice and I really like the upgradeability option but it's way out of my price range and I have no need for the high-end room correction and balanced inputs. BTW I never got a call when the xmc-1 eventually came out. Hmmmm. Cheers Generally speaking, notifications for the XMC-1 pre-order list were done via e-mail. The initial price increase was ostensibly because, it's not the same unit that was originally planned...a whole new architecture than the Cirrus-based models; plus they moved from Emo-Q to Trinnov to Dirac along the way. The UMC-200 is not a bad unit at all, and at the time, full PEQ in that price range was a pleasant surprise...but as you said, discontinued and won't support newer formats, if you're into that sort of thing. Mine is still happily doing a great job in a second room. Agreed with others, your 40% should be on file at HQ. I do recall the reasons for the price increases. I remember being disappointed with the addition of Girac as it's not something I need and it pushed the price out of my range and even then it ended up another $500 more. All this after a couple of years of wait. I'm confident they have me on file for the 40% discount I'm just not sure if it can be applied towards the newer processors. It was supposed to be for the next generation models but it was extended to the xmc-1 as it was redesigned and was considered two generations from the lmc-1. If it can't be applied to these new processors it might actually make sense to get the xmc-1 together with 40% off and it being future proof with the upgradeability path. |
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Post by cwt on May 8, 2016 1:04:53 GMT -5
EDIT: Just to clarify I am referring to Axis's post with the xmc-700 below... Now that's a design I can live with. I love the simplicity of this design where a few buttons control everything yet the tactile feel of the volume control is there. I'm not quite sure what it is about the satisfying feel of turning the volume knob. Even though I use the remote mostly for movies, I do use the volume knob frequently as I walk by the processor when I listen to music. No experience with the LMC1 synmag but the basex having an improved emoq2 room eq to the umc200 I own [though not in use atm] would certainly not be a step back. Ive never seen the 40% off referred to as stopping at a certain generation and Ive seen the emersa line being described as modular at audioholics similar to the xmc1 though it would be out if you wanted the new object decoding the xmc1 is receiving . The build quality of the xmc1 certainly is a reason to go upmarket ; good luck |
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Post by bootman on May 8, 2016 6:05:53 GMT -5
Why not an Anthem AVR if you are on Canada? I'm sure you can find a model in your price range. I want to keep my power amp that I love the sound of (Rotel RMB-1075, yes I only use 5 channels as I'm in a condo) and I also would like to use the 40% discount which should by me a better unit than another brand without the discount. Which AVR did you have in mind? One with pre-outs so it can be used as a processor? Exactly, one with pre-outs. Get one that fits your budget if a XMC with the discount is still out of reach for you. |
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Post by klinemj on May 8, 2016 6:45:42 GMT -5
The XMC is "finally" out? You get the Rip Van Winkle award! It's been out for about two years!  Seriously, I have not heard of a 40% discount based on owning any prior processor other than the UMC-1. But if you think there is a discount, call Emotiva. The LMC may be one that they made owners eligible for "upgrade for life" which is 25% off any future processor...and you can use it more than once. The UFL didn't require a card, the UMC-1 40% did require a card. Mark |
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Post by bootman on May 8, 2016 7:20:54 GMT -5
The XMC is "finally" out? You get the Rip Van Winkle award! It's been out for about two years! Seriously, I have not heard of a 40% discount based on owning any prior processor other than the UMC-1. But if you think there is a discount, call Emotiva. The LMC may be one that they made owners eligible for "upgrade for life" which is 25% off any future processor...and you can use it more than once. The UFL didn't require a card, the UMC-1 40% did require a card. Mark The LMC was the first. That is how I got my 40% off the XMC. The OP needs to decide if the XMC with DIRAC is worth more than a Athem AVR (starting at 1.3K) or the current Anthem processor at $3K. I think so but I'm not him.  I picked Anthem becasue he is in Canada, they are widely available there and they are quality products. (much better then the Onkyo/DM OEMs IMHO) |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 8, 2016 10:58:46 GMT -5
The XMC is "finally" out? You get the Rip Van Winkle award! It's been out for about two years! ... Right, for almost the first year you could get an XMC-1 for $1200 using the 40% discount, or $1500 with UFL. Either way you were also enrolled in UFL. |
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Post by synmag on May 8, 2016 20:01:07 GMT -5
The XMC is "finally" out? You get the Rip Van Winkle award! It's been out for about two years! ... Right, for almost the first year you could get an XMC-1 for $1200 using the 40% discount, or $1500 with UFL. Either way you were also enrolled in UFL. I tried looking at my activity and searching my own posts to see my timeline as I only check in time to time and my posts would have been a good indicator of when I checked last however only this thread came up. If the xmc has been out for two years then it must have come out shortly after I checked last when the Girac addition was announced. Time flies however when you don't look but I remember the endless delays and losing interest for months. And as I said Emmo never emailed me when it came out. $1200 for the xmc would have been very tempting and I very well might have jumped on it. At the end of the day I like the sound of my lmc and the only issue I have is not enough inputs, the lack of a headphone jack, and I'm getting to the point where HDMI inputs with audio would be nice. This is why I'm thinking the mc-700 would be a nice replacement as I really like the looks of it with the volume knob. The problem is now I'm back in the waiting game to see when it's going to become available and wait and see for initial issues as shipping for me from Canada becomes expensive if I have to send it back for warranty issues as I did with my lmc. The reason I got the lmc was that I decided to go with an entry level processor until HMDI with audio became available and buy a higher end unit with the 40% discount where the 40% discount was about the price of the lmc essentially getting the lmc for free while waiting for a more future proof processor to come out with HDMI etc. |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 8, 2016 20:17:04 GMT -5
The XMC is "finally" out? You get the Rip Van Winkle award! It's been out for about two years! Seriously, I have not heard of a 40% discount based on owning any prior processor other than the UMC-1. But if you think there is a discount, call Emotiva. The LMC may be one that they made owners eligible for "upgrade for life" which is 25% off any future processor...and you can use it more than once. The UFL didn't require a card, the UMC-1 40% did require a card. Mark Small correction Mark, none of the international buyers of UMC-1's that I know of got a card. Plus there was some time where UMC-1's were sent out without cards, they were mailed some time later which caused issues with change of addresses etc. It was explained to me when I asked Emotiva that's one of the reasons why the UFL didn't need cards. Cheers Gary |
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Post by synmag on May 8, 2016 22:08:02 GMT -5
Does Emmo have a mailing list I can sign up for to receive product release news(didn't see one on the website)? They don't seem to have a twitter account either?
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Post by novisnick on May 8, 2016 22:33:54 GMT -5
Does Emmo have a mailing list I can sign up for to receive product release news(didn't see one on the website)? They don't seem to have a twitter account either? Go here emotiva.com/products/emotiva-pro-0 Scroll to the bottom left side. Subscribe box, fill it out. there ya go.  |
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Post by deltadube on May 8, 2016 23:03:07 GMT -5
Winner! Winner!
.,.,.,..,.,.,.,....,.,.,..,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.., Looks like novisnick called this one for you. And it has a volume control Knob ! BasX MC-700 (MSRP: $599) A high performance 7.1 AV preamp/processor with HDMI 2.0 and Emo-Q™ room correction. Featuring twin dual-core 32 bit DSP engines, it handles all HD decoding with precision and exceptional fidelity. Five HDMI 2.0-capable inputs support HDCP 2.2, and Emotiva’s acclaimed Emo-Q automatic room correction engine produces excellent results in nearly any room. Also, The MC-700 features manual parametric EQ on all channels with independent pre-sets and a pure along bypass mode. Rounding out its deep feature set are 7.1 analog inputs and USB audio support.  are these for sale now .. I don't see on the website? |
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Post by novisnick on May 8, 2016 23:39:01 GMT -5
Looks like novisnick called this one for you. And it has a volume control Knob ! BasX MC-700 (MSRP: $599) A high performance 7.1 AV preamp/processor with HDMI 2.0 and Emo-Q™ room correction. Featuring twin dual-core 32 bit DSP engines, it handles all HD decoding with precision and exceptional fidelity. Five HDMI 2.0-capable inputs support HDCP 2.2, and Emotiva’s acclaimed Emo-Q automatic room correction engine produces excellent results in nearly any room. Also, The MC-700 features manual parametric EQ on all channels with independent pre-sets and a pure along bypass mode. Rounding out its deep feature set are 7.1 analog inputs and USB audio support. are these for sale now .. I don't see on the website? Day after tomorrow,,,,,,or the next,,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,,, |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 8, 2016 23:50:10 GMT -5
Does Emmo have a mailing list I can sign up for to receive product release news(didn't see one on the website)? They don't seem to have a twitter account either? Their Twitter account is @ Emotiva_Audio , though they mostly use it during audio shows they're attending – like a couple weeks ago at AXPONA. |
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2016 6:30:02 GMT -5
Does Emmo have a mailing list I can sign up for to receive product release news(didn't see one on the website)? They don't seem to have a twitter account either? Go here emotiva.com/products/emotiva-pro-0 Scroll to the bottom left side. Subscribe box, fill it out. there ya go. That's for Emotiva. I think he was asking about "Emmo"? |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 6:35:23 GMT -5
looking back on the XMC-1 for 1200$ WOW what a steal that was!
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Post by Axis on May 9, 2016 18:54:13 GMT -5
deltadube "The Franklin, Tenn., company plans early-third-quarter shipments of the BasX series of stereo and home-theater components, which are designed to expand Emotiva’s audiophile and home-theater-enthusiast base to embrace “lifestyle, aspirational” audiophiles on more limited budgets, president/CEO Dan Laufman told TWICE." Did anyone notice this ? "The company is considering a line of BasX speakers, Laufman noted."
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