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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 18:50:55 GMT -5
I was added to the pre-order list for the xmc-1 a few years back when it was going to be $999 and a replacement for the emc-1(?). I was hoping to replace my lmc-1 with it but stopped looking a while ago once the expected price reached $2000. This leaves me wondering what to do. I don't have an imminent need to upgrade except for switchable HDMI inputs, legacy inputs, headphone jack, and perhaps a phone input. I see that the UMC-200 is retired and probably would not be interested in it with all the issues I read about it and the difficult firmware update.
I don't have a discount card but was promised the discount (was it 40%). So, where does that leave me? I would be interested in a mid-level processor, in the $999-1500 range if I can still get my discount. What's in the pipeline that would be suitable for me? Is there an alternate currently available (there is an alphabet soup of new products I'm not familiar with)?
The xmc-1 looks real nice and I really like the upgradeability option but it's way out of my price range and I have no need for the high-end room correction and balanced inputs. BTW I never got a call when the xmc-1 eventually came out. Hmmmm.
Cheers
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Post by Axis on May 5, 2016 19:01:23 GMT -5
I was added to the pre-order list for the xmc-1 a few years back when it was going to be $999 and a replacement for the emc-1(?). I was hoping to replace my lmc-1 with it but stopped looking a while ago once the expected price reached $2000. This leaves me wondering what to do. I don't have an imminent need to upgrade except for switchable HDMI inputs, legacy inputs, headphone jack, and perhaps a phone input. I see that the UMC-200 is retired and probably would not be interested in it with all the issues I read about it and the difficult firmware update. I don't have a discount card but was promised the discount (was it 40%). So, where does that leave me? I would be interested in a mid-level processor, in the $999-1500 range if I can still get my discount. What's in the pipeline that would be suitable for me? Is there an alternate currently available (there is an alphabet soup of new products I'm not familiar with)? The xmc-1 looks real nice and I really like the upgradeability option but it's way out of my price range and I have no need for the high-end room correction and balanced inputs. BTW I never got a call when the xmc-1 eventually came out. Hmmmm. Cheers Emotiva Emersa EMP-1 (MSRP: $999): This full 7.1 channel preamp processor with HDMI 2.0a and HDCP2.2, unbalanced analog outputs plus balanced subwoofer output, has built-in Bluetooth connectivity, Dirac Live ™ room correction, USB DAC, and an Ethernet remote control option. The EMP-1 features an elegant aluminum chassis and includes a machined aluminum infrared remote control. No legacy inputs or phone input. |
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Post by garbulky on May 5, 2016 19:05:28 GMT -5
Uh there's an EMERSA processor and a BasX processor coming out in that price range. I think slightly less actually. I would personalyl wait till the HDMI 2 functinoality and ATMOS is included. Otherwise you are looking at an obsolete processor *. I believe these two features are said to be coming.
*It's still a good processor but the winds of change are already here, the hardware is here, the formats are about to come out in strong showing and I predict that in a year or two, anything not HDMI 2 will have lower resale value.
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Post by Axis on May 5, 2016 19:10:09 GMT -5
Emotiva BasX MC-700 7.1 A/V processor ($599) with five HDMI 2.0a inputs, HDCP 2.2, Emo-Q room correction, manual parametric EQ on all channels, USB audio and 7.1 analog inputs.
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Post by novisnick on May 5, 2016 19:26:35 GMT -5
Emotiva BasX MC-700 7.1 A/V processor ($599) with five HDMI 2.0a inputs, HDCP 2.2, Emo-Q room correction, manual parametric EQ on all channels, USB audio and 7.1 analog inputs.
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Post by Axis on May 5, 2016 19:42:02 GMT -5
Lonnie said that the Emersa EMP-1 was right there with the XMC on sound quality and great for someone like me that only needs to use it to watch TV and movies. I never touch my A/V receiver now. I press watch TV or Watch Movie on my Harmony remote and never use it for 2 channel music. I have a feeling that the Emersa line is going to be a hit. Not for Bonzo !  and all the other Nerds here ! You guys and gals got the XMC and just wait and there will be a 16 channel your seeking for a great price. |
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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 20:25:51 GMT -5
Ok, I'm getting caught up with Emmo news through the forums. I didn't see any info on the Emersa line on the main website podcasts/videos etc. but did find a few threads I'm going to read through.
I noticed that the 40% card was usable on the new line but what about lmc-1 owners without the card. I also saw a lifetime 40% discount mentioned is that going to apply to me? Are there any lmc-1 owners out there who haven't upgraded yet or am I the last one :-) ?
Interesting to see there are Canadian dealers now. Need to google where/who they are but if the discount applies to direct orders that's the way I'm going to go.
Thanks for the guiding light.....off to read and catch up....
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Post by Axis on May 5, 2016 20:33:39 GMT -5
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Post by novisnick on May 5, 2016 20:38:15 GMT -5
Ok, I'm getting caught up with Emmo news through the forums. I didn't see any info on the Emersa line on the main website podcasts/videos etc. but did find a few threads I'm going to read through. I noticed that the 40% card was usable on the new line but what about lmc-1 owners without the card. I also saw a lifetime 40% discount mentioned is that going to apply to me? Are there any lmc-1 owners out there who haven't upgraded yet or am I the last one :-) ? Interesting to see there are Canadian dealers now. Need to google where/who they are but if the discount applies to direct orders that's the way I'm going to go. Thanks for the guiding light.....off to read and catch up.... There has never been an upgrade for life discount card at the 40% level, to the best of my knowledge. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Your best bet is to call Emotiva in the morning and find out. Thats where they hide all the important information! |
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Post by novisnick on May 5, 2016 20:41:05 GMT -5
I think the pricing has been changed on these products,  |
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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 20:52:38 GMT -5
Ok, I'm getting caught up with Emmo news through the forums. I didn't see any info on the Emersa line on the main website podcasts/videos etc. but did find a few threads I'm going to read through. I noticed that the 40% card was usable on the new line but what about lmc-1 owners without the card. I also saw a lifetime 40% discount mentioned is that going to apply to me? Are there any lmc-1 owners out there who haven't upgraded yet or am I the last one :-) ? Interesting to see there are Canadian dealers now. Need to google where/who they are but if the discount applies to direct orders that's the way I'm going to go. Thanks for the guiding light.....off to read and catch up.... There has never been an upgrade for life discount card at the 40% level, to the best of my knowledge. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Your best bet is to call Emotiva in the morning and find out. Thats where they hide all the important information! Thanks for the links. Just finished reading this one: emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/45015/emersa-emp-1Will read yours. |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 5, 2016 21:26:02 GMT -5
From memory LMC-1 and UMC-1 were 40% one use only discounts and the UMC-200 and XMC-1 were Upgrade for Life 25% discount. No new Upgrades for Life are being issued, only those that already have them get to use them.
Cheers
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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 21:39:47 GMT -5
Well, first reaction is the looks of the emp-1 I don't like at all. All other stars need to align for me to begrudgingly accept the lack of a volume control. I like BT and headphone, I'm not sure I need Dirac, and lack of legacy input will be an issue for me. I'mm sure it will have great sound though which will make it a tough decision. I always liked form to go with function. I would be more than happy with an lmc-1 chassis with the guts of the emp-1. I really don't mind a taller unit. The mc-700 sounds like the reverse, more form perhaps and less function, i.e. more lower end I guess it would be a umc-200 replacement? It sounds like they should marry the two  . |
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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 21:50:23 GMT -5
From memory LMC-1 and UMC-1 were 40% one use only discounts and the UMC-200 and XMC-1 were Upgrade for Life 25% discount. No new Upgrades for Life are being issued, only those that already have them get to use them. Cheers Gary I was told 40% with the lmc-1 which was extended I believe to xmc-1 (with a 40% discount I might be able to make a case for the xmc-1 if CAD were to recover more). If I can't get the discount I'm going to have to rethink if it's worth sticking with Emmo. |
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Post by Axis on May 5, 2016 21:52:32 GMT -5
Well, first reaction is the looks of the emp-1 I don't like at all. All other stars need to align for me to begrudgingly accept the lack of a volume control. I like BT and headphone, I'm not sure I need Dirac, and lack of legacy input will be an issue for me. I'mm sure it will have great sound though which will make it a tough decision. I always liked form to go with function. I would be more than happy with an lmc-1 chassis with the guts of the emp-1. I really don't mind a taller unit. The mc-700 sounds like the reverse, more form perhaps and less function, i.e. more lower end I guess it would be a umc-200 replacement? It sounds like they should marry the two . Did you notice that the XMC-1 does not have legacy inputs or phono ? |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 5, 2016 22:08:42 GMT -5
From memory LMC-1 and UMC-1 were 40% one use only discounts and the UMC-200 and XMC-1 were Upgrade for Life 25% discount. No new Upgrades for Life are being issued, only those that already have them get to use them. I was told 40% with the lmc-1 which was extended I believe to xmc-1 (with a 40% discount I might be able to make a case for the xmc-1 if CAD were to recover more). If I can't get the discount I'm going to have to rethink if it's worth sticking with Emmo. My understanding is anyone with an LMC-1 or UMC-1 could use their 40% discount on buying their next Emotiva processor. LMC-1 buyers I believe had their details recorded along with the serial number of their processor. Early UMC-1's were similar, at least that was the case for International buyers. Later UMC-1's had 40% discount cards sent out with their purchase. This meant people could buy and sell discount cards. UMC-200 and XMC-1 customers had their details recorded for the Upgrade for Life 25% discount which is not transferrable (ie; no card, can't sell). So someone who bought an LMC-1 could use that 40% discount to buy a UMC-1 then use that 40% discount to buy an XMC-1 which then gave them a 25% UFL discount There is only one suggestion, get the serial number off your LMC-1, give Emotiva sales a call and ask if they have your details and if you are still eligible for the 40% discount. Cheers Gary |
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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 22:20:05 GMT -5
Well, first reaction is the looks of the emp-1 I don't like at all. All other stars need to align for me to begrudgingly accept the lack of a volume control. I like BT and headphone, I'm not sure I need Dirac, and lack of legacy input will be an issue for me. I'mm sure it will have great sound though which will make it a tough decision. I always liked form to go with function. I would be more than happy with an lmc-1 chassis with the guts of the emp-1. I really don't mind a taller unit. The mc-700 sounds like the reverse, more form perhaps and less function, i.e. more lower end I guess it would be a umc-200 replacement? It sounds like they should marry the two . Did you notice that the XMC-1 does not have legacy inputs or phono ? Yes, I did. Phono is a nice to have low priority, perhaps xps-1 would work if I needed it. I have a bunch of records but no turntable currently. Legacy is a bit more of a problem but it may not be a deal breaker. I can always hook up to TV and send audio through optical if I had to. |
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Post by synmag on May 5, 2016 22:29:51 GMT -5
Did you notice that the XMC-1 does not have legacy inputs or phono ? Yes, I did. Phono is a nice to have low priority, perhaps xps-1 would work if I needed it. I have a bunch of records but no turntable currently. Legacy is a bit more of a problem but it may not be a deal breaker. I can always hook up to TV and send audio through optical if I had to. That sounds right, but I didn't think you could daisy chain them like that though, but that's irrelevant to me. IIRC the 40% is always off the original MSRP price too. If the there was a price drop in a year or two to $2000-2200 and I could get 40% off that it would be totally worth it. I will call them to find out. They should have my info recorded as I had to send mine back several times to fix the infinite loop during power on issue! Cheers |
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Post by Axis on May 5, 2016 22:38:50 GMT -5
Emotiva BasX MC-700 7.1 A/V processor ($599) with five HDMI 2.0a inputs, HDCP 2.2, Emo-Q room correction, manual parametric EQ on all channels, USB audio and 7.1 analog inputs.
.,.,.,..,.,.,.,....,.,.,..,.,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,Looks like novisnick called this one for you. And it has a volume control Knob ! BasX MC-700 (MSRP: $599) A high performance 7.1 AV preamp/processor with HDMI 2.0 and Emo-Q™ room correction. Featuring twin dual-core 32 bit DSP engines, it handles all HD decoding with precision and exceptional fidelity. Five HDMI 2.0-capable inputs support HDCP 2.2, and Emotiva’s acclaimed Emo-Q automatic room correction engine produces excellent results in nearly any room. Also, The MC-700 features manual parametric EQ on all channels with independent pre-sets and a pure along bypass mode. Rounding out its deep feature set are 7.1 analog inputs and USB audio support.  |
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Post by cwt on May 6, 2016 5:00:34 GMT -5
Did you notice that the XMC-1 does not have legacy inputs or phono ? Yes, I did. Phono is a nice to have low priority, perhaps xps-1 would work if I needed it. I have a bunch of records but no turntable currently. Legacy is a bit more of a problem but it may not be a deal breaker. I can always hook up to TV and send audio through optical if I had to. If you do have 40% off synmag [ 25% ufl would be a certainty imo] apart from giving better value the dearer the component; the emersa emp1 is more upmarket [ as Lonnie has said in comparison to the xmc1] with Ime sure most would agree superior dirac room eq compared to the basex emoq2 . Those who saw the emersa in the skin at axpona were impressed with its looks in real life . I like a proper potentiometer too but then again I use the harmony remote so it depends on your habits how important this is ? How many analog inputs do you need ? A couple of analog sp/dif converters may do like this one ; only from a local source to you of course www.cablechick.com.au/cables/avencore-analog-to-digital-audio-converter-stereo-audio-to-toslink-digital-coaxial.htmlAnother factor is your power amp ; do you fancy matching class d or the basex's class a/b ? or no need atm ? |
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and all the other Nerds here ! You guys and gals got the XMC and just wait and there will be a 16 channel your seeking for a great price.
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