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Post by LuisV on May 28, 2016 11:55:06 GMT -5
After searching on-line and speaking to a couple of forum members, I finally found a way to wire up a trigger cable for Crown XLS DriveCore 2 series amps that use the Phoenix type connector. I'm still in the process of figuring how I can dress / finish up the cable, but after a couple of quick tests, the cable works like a dream. I purchased the following parts: Generic 12v 40amp Relay from AutoZonePhoenix Connectors from Parts Express3.5mm Mono TS Cable from AmazonFrom the terminals on the relay to the phoenix connector I used spare 16g speaker wire that I had on hand. I couldn't find a cable with a 3.5mm connector on one end and bare wire on the other, so I simply snipped off the connector that I didn't need. You might not need a 10 foot 3.5mm cable, so purchase the length that suits your needs. I wired the relay and cables as shown below:  I plugged the phoenix connector into the Crown amp and temporarily connected the 3.5mm cable into the trigger output of my XPA-2 amp. Once the cable is finished, I will move the 3.5mm end to one of the trigger outputs from my XMC-1 and trigger it appropriately within the menu. A couple of on / off tests proved that it works perfectly. Now I just need to figure out how to make it more presentable... maybe a small project box for the relay and some tech flex to dress up the speaker cable. I plan to keep the cable from the phoenix connector to the relay on the shorter side so I can place the relay project box on the shelf behind the amp and then run the cable with the 3.5mm end to the XMC-1. I'll upload pictures once complete, but for now it works.  Hope others find this info helpful... |
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Post by geebo on May 28, 2016 13:47:20 GMT -5
After searching on-line and speaking to a couple of forum members, I finally found a way to wire up a trigger cable for Crown XLS amps that use the Phoenix type connector. I'm still in the process of figuring how I can dress / finish up the cable, but after a couple of quick tests, the cable works like a dream. I purchased the following parts: Generic 12v 40amp Relay from AutoZonePhoenix Connectors from Parts Express3.5mm Mono TS Cable from AmazonFrom the terminals on the relay to the phoenix connector I used spare 16g speaker wire that I had on hand. I couldn't find a cable with a 3.5mm connector on one end and bare wire on the other, so I simply snipped off the connector that I didn't need. You might not need a 10 foot 3.5mm cable, so purchase the length that suits your needs. I wired the relay and cables as shown below: View Attachment I plugged the phoenix connector into the Crown amp and temporarily connected the 3.5mm cable into the trigger output of my XPA-2 amp. Once the cable is finished, I will move the 3.5mm end to one of the trigger outputs from my XMC-1 and trigger it appropriately within the menu. A couple of on / off tests proved that it works perfectly. Now I just need to figure out how to make it more presentable... maybe a small project box for the relay and some tech flex to dress up the speaker cable. I plan to keep the cable from the phoenix connector to the relay on the shorter side so I can place the relay project box on the shelf behind the amp and then run the cable with the 3.5mm end to the XMC-1. I'll upload pictures once complete, but for now it works. Hope others find this info helpful... I did something similar using Chuck Elliot's smart trigger delay system by using one of the relays as a shorting device as you have. It works like a charm. |
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Post by LuisV on Jun 24, 2016 6:40:26 GMT -5
Based on info I found in another forum, I purchased an ELK924 relay and now have the ability to trigger two Crown amps from a single input for about the same price as a single 12v car relay. Just need to find a project box for it and she'll be all done.  |
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Post by geebo on Jun 24, 2016 9:18:25 GMT -5
Based on info I found in another forum, I purchased an ELK924 relay and now have the ability to trigger two Crown amps from a single input for about the same price as a single 12v car relay. Just need to find a project box for it and she'll be all done. View AttachmentNice inexpensive and simple solution. Post some pics when you get it completed. |
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 24, 2016 10:33:40 GMT -5
Nice solution for the newer XLS amps such as the 1002/1502/2002/2502 that have the Phoenix connectors. You might have mentioned the particular model of amps since the older 1000/1500/2000/2500 series solutions aren't as easy since they have no built in circuit activation. I use the Panamax 5300 triggered by the XSP-1 to turn the 1500 amp on - it also cuts power to some of my audio gear that does not need to be on standby when the XSP-1 is off. Savings are minimal of course since most of that gear like the Oppo use less than 1 watt during standby. I'm not sure I needed a filtration unit and I find no audible difference between that and using the wall outlet directly but it does give me lightning protection - something that is common around here. We just had a brief lightning storm last night with a couple of strikes that might have been a mile or so off - lots of rain for about 20 minutes. And one Monday morning about 5:30AM that woke me up with a very close strike. For those of you that don't have the means of soldering etc get one or more of these remote control modules. You can turn on/off all the toys you want if you get enough of them. And they are cheap. I'm thinking of getting 5 pack for some of my lamps. I'm getting lazy in my old(er) age! |
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Post by LuisV on Jun 24, 2016 14:34:37 GMT -5
Based on info I found in another forum, I purchased an ELK924 relay and now have the ability to trigger two Crown amps from a single input for about the same price as a single 12v car relay. Just need to find a project box for it and she'll be all done. Nice inexpensive and simple solution. Post some pics when you get it completed. Will do and thanks! |
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Post by LuisV on Jun 24, 2016 18:18:17 GMT -5
Nice solution for the newer XLS amps such as the 1002/1502/2002/2502 that have the Phoenix connectors. Thanks and I updated the title with the appropriate model info... DriveCore 2 series. |
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Post by cameron2 on Jan 5, 2018 16:48:43 GMT -5
Based on info I found in another forum, I purchased an ELK924 relay and now have the ability to trigger two Crown amps from a single input for about the same price as a single 12v car relay. Just need to find a project box for it and she'll be all done. I wanted to say "thank you" for your post. I was able to do much the same! I powered the relay from a 12v supply off of a USB plug (since it's easy to find USB power), but in the end, I decided to actually use the USB power both for the relay power AND for the trigger, so that I could control the amp power via Z-Wave (yet without running the amp directly off of a Z-Wave outlet, for noise reasons -- my amps and other AV equipment run off a pure sine wave power source.) I grabbed a nice project box from Micro Center (Cambridge). I Dremel'd a hole for the USB plug. I got the power adapter on eBay e.g. www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=USB+12V+step+upI used the ELK that you suggested (wonderful choice!), and for the power, I used a Monoprice plug: www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=122&cp_id=12212&cs_id=1091804&p_id=27481&seq=1&format=2(Note that the Monoprice plug claimed that the USB outlets are switched via Z-Wave; that is wrong! So I had to plug a USB power supply into the Z-Wave outlet, which was a very minor inconvenience.) |
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Post by LuisV on Jan 5, 2018 17:21:35 GMT -5
Great, glad the info was helpful and thanks for posting your process and parts! Can you provide a link to the project box? I'm sure others will find that info very useful as those are tough to find.
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Post by petew on Jan 5, 2018 18:10:49 GMT -5
You could get by with a very small relay since the currents involved are miniscule. Something like >>> this click link <<< is small enough that you could heat shrink it right into the cable assembly. |
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Post by cameron2 on Jan 12, 2018 11:01:12 GMT -5
You could get by with a very small relay since the currents involved are miniscule. Something like >>> this click link <<< is small enough that you could heat shrink it right into the cable assembly. Yup. I wasn't sure how I was going to do the project at first, so the ELK part was going to handle pretty much anything (including my mistakes!) What would be really nice would be a line of products that make this type of thing easier. For example, a Z-Wave device that plugs into a standard outlet, and provides a "when on" circuit open option, circuit close option, and adjustable voltage DC out, with an optional time duration (resolution down to milliseconds and up to hours). That would handle everything from garage door openers to amp triggers. Instead, I have to make these myself, which isn't that bad, but it's not optimal .... |
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Post by cameron2 on Jan 12, 2018 11:04:23 GMT -5
Great, glad the info was helpful and thanks for posting your process and parts! Can you provide a link to the project box? I'm sure others will find that info very useful as those are tough to find. I think it's this one: www.microcenter.com/product/428753/PLASTIC_PROJECT_BOX,_BLACK_ABS (I bought it in the store, not online, so I'm not 100% sure.) |
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Post by LuisV on Jan 12, 2018 11:24:09 GMT -5
Great, glad the info was helpful and thanks for posting your process and parts! Can you provide a link to the project box? I'm sure others will find that info very useful as those are tough to find. I think it's this one: www.microcenter.com/product/428753/PLASTIC_PROJECT_BOX,_BLACK_ABS (I bought it in the store, not online, so I'm not 100% sure.) No worries, my local store didn't have any in stock, but they have this one, so I can at least check it out... or maybe the guy that was helping me was in the wrong section. Either way... thanks! |
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Post by LuisV on Jan 12, 2018 11:32:14 GMT -5
You could get by with a very small relay since the currents involved are miniscule. Something like >>> this click link <<< is small enough that you could heat shrink it right into the cable assembly. Thanks for pointing out that small relay! Useful for sure... |
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Post by wje2 on Aug 13, 2020 15:47:35 GMT -5
After searching on-line and speaking to a couple of forum members, I finally found a way to wire up a trigger cable for Crown XLS DriveCore 2 series amps that use the Phoenix type connector. I'm still in the process of figuring how I can dress / finish up the cable, but after a couple of quick tests, the cable works like a dream. I purchased the following parts: Generic 12v 40amp Relay from AutoZonePhoenix Connectors from Parts Express3.5mm Mono TS Cable from AmazonFrom the terminals on the relay to the phoenix connector I used spare 16g speaker wire that I had on hand. I couldn't find a cable with a 3.5mm connector on one end and bare wire on the other, so I simply snipped off the connector that I didn't need. You might not need a 10 foot 3.5mm cable, so purchase the length that suits your needs. I wired the relay and cables as shown below: I plugged the phoenix connector into the Crown amp and temporarily connected the 3.5mm cable into the trigger output of my XPA-2 amp. Once the cable is finished, I will move the 3.5mm end to one of the trigger outputs from my XMC-1 and trigger it appropriately within the menu. A couple of on / off tests proved that it works perfectly. Now I just need to figure out how to make it more presentable... maybe a small project box for the relay and some tech flex to dress up the speaker cable. I plan to keep the cable from the phoenix connector to the relay on the shorter side so I can place the relay project box on the shelf behind the amp and then run the cable with the 3.5mm end to the XMC-1. I'll upload pictures once complete, but for now it works. Hope others find this info helpful... *************************** Thank you! I purchased these parts, mainly the Phoenix connectors from Amazon and a 12V relay from Autozone. This method worked like a champ. To connect the wires to the relay spades, I bought 12-14 ga. crimp on connectors, which allowed me to just plug the wire connectors onto the tabs of the relay. |
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Post by wje2 on Aug 13, 2020 15:49:54 GMT -5
After searching on-line and speaking to a couple of forum members, I finally found a way to wire up a trigger cable for Crown XLS DriveCore 2 series amps that use the Phoenix type connector. I'm still in the process of figuring how I can dress / finish up the cable, but after a couple of quick tests, the cable works like a dream. I purchased the following parts: Generic 12v 40amp Relay from AutoZonePhoenix Connectors from Parts Express3.5mm Mono TS Cable from AmazonFrom the terminals on the relay to the phoenix connector I used spare 16g speaker wire that I had on hand. I couldn't find a cable with a 3.5mm connector on one end and bare wire on the other, so I simply snipped off the connector that I didn't need. You might not need a 10 foot 3.5mm cable, so purchase the length that suits your needs. I wired the relay and cables as shown below: I plugged the phoenix connector into the Crown amp and temporarily connected the 3.5mm cable into the trigger output of my XPA-2 amp. Once the cable is finished, I will move the 3.5mm end to one of the trigger outputs from my XMC-1 and trigger it appropriately within the menu. A couple of on / off tests proved that it works perfectly. Now I just need to figure out how to make it more presentable... maybe a small project box for the relay and some tech flex to dress up the speaker cable. I plan to keep the cable from the phoenix connector to the relay on the shorter side so I can place the relay project box on the shelf behind the amp and then run the cable with the 3.5mm end to the XMC-1. I'll upload pictures once complete, but for now it works. Hope others find this info helpful... Thank you! I purchased these parts, mainly the Phoenix connectors from Amazon and a 12V relay from Autozone. This method worked like a champ. To connect the wires to the relay spades, I bought 12-14 ga. crimp on connectors, which allowed me to just plug the wire connectors onto the tabs of the relay. The 12V relay from AutoZone was part # 849395 and was $8.99. |
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Post by LuisV on Aug 13, 2020 16:23:17 GMT -5
Glad it was helpful!
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Hope others find this info helpful...
