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Post by turkeybaster on Jun 6, 2016 20:06:09 GMT -5
I have Klipsch speakers which are super efficient and really don't have a need for Emotiva's higher powered high end amps. I just wanted reasonable levels of power discreet for each line so I wanted separates. I have my emotiva amp, but what are people using for their processing these days. For the life of me I cant seem to find a reasonable priced receiver that has pre-outs! That option nowadays seems only to come on the high end high powered receivers. I don't need your high powered over priced receiver, I have my own amp! All I need your damn box for is signal processing and distribution.
What are out budget friendly options these days? I just want a low powered, high featured, inexpensive receiver. Is that not a thing anymore?
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 6, 2016 20:22:35 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.com |
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Post by klinemj on Jun 6, 2016 20:37:26 GMT -5
Another option is the upcoming Emersa pre/pro. Relative to the BasX line, it will be pricier but has DIRAC, which some will find worth it.
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Post by gus4emo on Jun 6, 2016 20:43:32 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.comI see BIG cuts in prices, any catch? |
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Post by sahmen on Jun 6, 2016 21:40:06 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.comI see BIG cuts in prices, any catch? Any catch? Well, they want to empty your wallet, in the most devastating way possible--unless you do not find that disturbing... I sort of do  |
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Post by hemster on Jun 6, 2016 23:38:45 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.comI see BIG cuts in prices, any catch? They may sell refurbished gear at reduced prices. |
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Post by creimes on Jun 6, 2016 23:54:04 GMT -5
I have Klipsch speakers which are super efficient and really don't have a need for Emotiva's higher powered high end amps. I just wanted reasonable levels of power discreet for each line so I wanted separates. I have my emotiva amp, but what are people using for their processing these days. For the life of me I cant seem to find a reasonable priced receiver that has pre-outs! That option nowadays seems only to come on the high end high powered receivers. I don't need your high powered over priced receiver, I have my own amp! All I need your damn box for is signal processing and distribution. What are out budget friendly options these days? I just want a low powered, high featured, inexpensive receiver. Is that not a thing anymore? Here's a sweet receiver/pre-amp that has pre-outs for a really nice price, no affiliation with the seller but I have owned one and it sounded good to my ears and $375 shipped won't last long IMO emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/47145/emotiva-fusion-8100-375-shipping |
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Post by turkeybaster on Jun 8, 2016 7:50:14 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.comI would expect the power section to be the most expensive section of a receiver, and as I spent around 500 on the amp, I would hope to spend less than that on the processing and switching. Ideally i'm thinking 300-500? I just hate the idea that to get the controls that I want I am having to pay so much more for a receiver with beefed up power that I will never use. It's annoying. Why are there not cheap solutions for people that half half of a seperates. It's like if the only way you could get a receiver is to buy a HTIB but you already have speakers. I don't want your trash, just give me the piece that i need! |
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Post by DYohn on Jun 8, 2016 9:55:26 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.comI would expect the power section to be the most expensive section of a receiver, and as I spent around 500 on the amp, I would hope to spend less than that on the processing and switching. Ideally i'm thinking 300-500? I just hate the idea that to get the controls that I want I am having to pay so much more for a receiver with beefed up power that I will never use. It's annoying. Why are there not cheap solutions for people that half half of a seperates. It's like if the only way you could get a receiver is to buy a HTIB but you already have speakers. I don't want your trash, just give me the piece that i need! What are you looking for in a processor, besides low price? What features do you need? And by the way, building a good quality power amp is pretty straight-forward and components are relatively cheap. Building a good pre/pro requires software licensing, microprocessor knowledge, digital I/O, DAC, analog signal handling chops... the list goes on. It is much more difficult and expensive to build a good processor than a good amp. |
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Post by KeithL on Jun 8, 2016 10:48:25 GMT -5
I would like to point out a few minor flaws in your logic....... First off, when you're talking about receivers, you may be wrong about "the amplifiers being the expensive part" - and that balance shifts even further at the lower end of the spectrum. The price of moderately powerful amplifiers has been coming down in recent years. However, the cost of decoding surround sound includes the cost of processing hardware, and the firmware that goes with it, and the cost of licensing the technology. (For example, for every processor we sell that supports Dolby TrueHD, we pay a licensing fee, and another one for DTS.) You also need to remember that a significant part of the cost of manufacturing any component is spend on things like the box, and the face plate, and the packaging. So, if you start with a $300 receiver, you should expect the same unit as a processor - without the amps - to be $200, or the same unit, with the amps, but without the processor, to be the same $200. Second, you have to think about business and markets. As a broad generalization, the kind of people who buy $300 receivers are not the same kind of people who buy $1000 preamp/processors. People who buy $300 receivers want everything in one box, a lot of convenience, and a low price tag; and they look at "flexibility" as meaning that they have lots of inputs and outputs. People who buy separates take flexibility to mean that they can buy the amp they want, and the processor they want, and choose each separately. And they're not as worried abut having every feature known to man in one box - because they can always add another box that does whatever they want. People who buy separates are also usually more concerned with things like sound quality. In other words, the $300 receiver isn't really competing with the $1000 processor... it's in a different market. Also, to put it bluntly, within the receiver market, price is usually related more to features than to power alone. So, within a given product line, the $500 model has to have more features than the $300 model. And, as it turns out, most people who buy a $300 receiver to use by itself really don't need preamp outputs, but it's a nice "luxury feature" to include on the $500 model. (Obviously, if the cheap model did everything you wanted, then there would be no reason for anyone to buy the luxury model.) I have Klipsch speakers which are super efficient and really don't have a need for Emotiva's higher powered high end amps. I just wanted reasonable levels of power discreet for each line so I wanted separates. I have my emotiva amp, but what are people using for their processing these days. For the life of me I cant seem to find a reasonable priced receiver that has pre-outs! That option nowadays seems only to come on the high end high powered receivers. I don't need your high powered over priced receiver, I have my own amp! All I need your damn box for is signal processing and distribution. What are out budget friendly options these days? I just want a low powered, high featured, inexpensive receiver. Is that not a thing anymore? |
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Post by Loop 7 on Jun 8, 2016 12:53:44 GMT -5
Budget friendly means different price ranges to different people. What's your price range? If you're looking for entry level receivers with Pre-Outs, try looking at what Accessories4Less has to offer. Not sure when the processor in the new Emotiva BaseX line(MC-700 @ $600) is due out, but you may want to inquire with their customer service. www.accessories4less.comAgree 100%. A4L is just about the best place to get an AVR with pre-outs. |
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Post by turkeybaster on Jun 8, 2016 14:38:39 GMT -5
[/quote]What are you looking for in a processor, besides low price? What features do you need?
And by the way, building a good quality power amp is pretty straight-forward and components are relatively cheap. Building a good pre/pro requires software licensing, microprocessor knowledge, digital I/O, DAC, analog signal handling chops... the list goes on. It is much more difficult and expensive to build a good processor than a good amp.[/quote]
If I was to make a list of features that I wanted, it would be these
1. 7.1 or preferable 7.2 pre-outs
2. 5 in 2 out hdmi
3. current 7.1 surround codecs (no atmos)
4. network connection would be nice
5. decent auto room eq, or easy to use manual system.
Those are really the big things, i could buy separate splitters for the hdmi out and sub if needed but the above would be my ideal product. Maybe im delusional but I thought that all of that used to be attainable for around 500 3 or 4 years ago, but now its hard to find preouts in anything under 700.
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 8, 2016 15:11:23 GMT -5
One of the better refurbished AVR's IMO on A4L is the Marantz 5009. It has 7.2 preamp out jacks and is probably enough to power your Klipsch speakers. I had a 5008 for a time and found it to have good audio quality - HDMI switching was fast as well. It has 7 HDMI inputs and two HDMI outputs. They don't have the Yamaha V773 any more but it has everything you're looking for including 5 HDMI inputs in back and one in front - and two HDMI output jacks. If you're interested in one I'd be interested in selling selling it for ~$300 shipped. I bought it last Nov so it still has warranty until Nov. I just find I don't use it any more so I'm going to transition back to 2 channel so I'll be selling my multi channel stuff. Except for the Oppo - it stays! I don't mind 2 channel - I've discovered that 3.1 with the Oppo does about as well with the low frequency as an AVR - plenty of house shaking bass and great center channel sound through one Crown amp bridged. |
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Post by smarties on Jul 17, 2016 3:25:01 GMT -5
Only thing would be to buy a older high end AV pre-amp. I'm still using a Lexicon MC-8, it was 1/4 the price (new RRP) when I bought it, and it's even cheaper now.
Cheapest processors, but still fairly modern are I think the Marantz AV7701/AV7702.
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