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Post by teaman on Jul 10, 2016 17:04:55 GMT -5
Since some people in the Emotiva world feel like someone should start a separate thread as to what potential buyers should look for in a speaker I figured, why not me! I just picked up a pair of Klipsch KLF-30 speakers last month and by far they blow away any other speaker I have heard in my home. They are three way, horn loaded with ultra high sensitivity. 92 lbs of madness that are built like tanks. With two 12 inch poly woofers they hit hard as Hell and the horn just scream. My speakers are finished in black which suits me just fine although the oak and mahogany finishes may be preference to some. Whether I am listening to two channel or in surround they never cease to amaze me. The pair I just bought, I found locally from a seller on the Klipsch forum are they in mint condition. He was original owner and has not moved them since they were bought new 30 years ago. Everyday I listen to them I fall further in love with them. Not everyone cares so deeply about their speakers...but I do. I think speakers are the most critical component to accurate sound reproduction. With the hyper sensitivity these offer they need very little power to jump into your lap. I would have loved me some Klipschorns, Belles or LaScalas but finding them in mint condition is very rare. Specs: Klipsch Legend Series KLF 30 - speakers GENERAL Speaker System Type left / right channel speakers Available Body Colors light oak, medium oak, black satin, mahogany Manufacturer Klipsch SPEAKER SYSTEM Detachable Grilles Yes System Components 2 speakers Amplification Type passive Crossover Channel Qty 3-way Nominal Output Power 200 Watt Max (RMS) Output Power 800 Watt Frequency Response 36 - 20000 Hz Nominal Impedance 8 Ohm Sensitivity 102 dB Crossover Frequency 7000Hz, 825Hz Output Features Bass Reflex Connectivity Technology wired Recommended Placing floor-standing Crossover Channel Qty 3-way DRIVER DETAILS Driver Type high-frequency driver, mid/woofer driver, tweeter driver Driver Diameter 1" tweeter, 1.5" midhorn, 2 x 12" woofers Driver Diameter (metric) 25 mm, 305 mm, 38 mm DIMENSIONS & WEIGHT Width 14 in Depth 17.1 in Height 46.6 in Weight 92.15 lbs  Feel free to post what you look for in a speaker! Tim |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 10, 2016 17:30:32 GMT -5
I look for correct tone, room presurrization, enveloping soundstage and lots of detail. Out of all these I think enveloping soundstage and correct tone is the hardest to get just perfect. With regards to room pressurization, this can be accomplished with just the speaker or with subs in the mix too.
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Post by clearear on Jul 10, 2016 18:49:44 GMT -5
Seamless driver integration, natural tone, detail.
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Post by DavidR on Jul 10, 2016 19:37:27 GMT -5
Most of what we are going to like would be totally subjective so for unsubjective (maybe):
- Goes low enough not to need subs
- detail and clarity
- not harsh in mid and treble
- distortion free low bass response
- proper 'hand-off' from one driver to another
- good imaging
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Post by cwmcobra on Jul 10, 2016 19:44:32 GMT -5
Right on, teaman! My Klipsch journey started with an all-Klipsch home theater setup anchored by a pair of KLF-20s and a C7. When I auditioned the Klipsch line at a local AV store, I was impressed until I heard this combination and with my jaw on the floor I said "WOW!". Bought 'em and loved 'em till be moved and I sold the HT with the house. I've been planning the HT in our new house (now been here almost 9 years) and have decided to go big with a large acoustically transparent screen. So, not caring what the speakers look like, I audtioned a pair of La Scalas and with my jaw on the floor again said "WOW!". They came home with me and I've now collected a third as well as eight Heresy I speakers for surrounds. Wish I could figure out how to mount some Heresy's in the ceiling for a killer Atmos/DTS X configuration. I know not everyone is a Klipsch fan, but count me firmly as one!
Cheers!
Chuck
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Post by teaman on Jul 10, 2016 19:44:59 GMT -5
Feel free to post some of your most wanted speakers as well. Share a link or post a picture. It is always interesting to see what kind of speaker traits people are drawn to.
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Post by teaman on Jul 10, 2016 19:46:11 GMT -5
CWMCobra, I have mine paired with a KLF-C7 as well with four B-3 8" two ways for height and surround duty. Awesome speakers
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Post by cwmcobra on Jul 10, 2016 19:48:51 GMT -5
Not to mention I was in your neck of the woods when I had that setup. About halfway between Brighton and Howell.......
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Post by DavidR on Jul 10, 2016 19:56:33 GMT -5
I think Bill Dudleston is building some of the best (USA) speakers today  Focus SEThe Wilson Alexandria XLF (aka Rockem' Sockem' Robot speakers) cost as much as some houses. They weight 665 lbs each.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 20:06:55 GMT -5
David, The Wilson Alexandria XLF speakers look butt ugly to me!  |
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Post by hemster on Jul 10, 2016 21:04:20 GMT -5
I look for correct tone, room presurrization, enveloping soundstage and lots of detail. Out of all these I think enveloping soundstage and correct tone is the hardest to get just perfect. With regards to room pressurization, this can be accomplished with just the speaker or with subs in the mix too. Well, that's a whole lot of... words! How do you know when you have the "correct tone"? What is the measure of "enveloping soundstage"? How do you measure "room pressuization"? Ultimately it usually comes down to personal preferences which are always subjective and immeasurable. |
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Post by The History Kid on Jul 10, 2016 21:13:56 GMT -5
I'm cost conscious, but I like something that sounds clean and not fatiguing. On a good day it should be able to perform without a sub if I need it to. Up until a few weeks ago, I was developing a bias on driver size, but that has since gone away (thanks to Emo's UOM-6.2's).
It has to sound good to my ears, is the bottom line. And it needs to play nice with the other things I have. In the past I had a pair of Jamo Cornet's, that were difficult as hell to dial in. When you got them to image right on one song, they'd invariably be different in another, and the power loads were just a nightmare. I am sure if it was an entire Jamo configuration that was designed to pair with those Cornet's (it was entirely a Jamo setup, just not the paired speakers), it would probably have sounded great.
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Post by simpleman68 on Jul 10, 2016 21:16:05 GMT -5
I think Bill Dudleston is building some of the best (USA) speakers today Focus SEI've been greatly enjoying my Whispers this last year. Very different than other speakers I've owned in almost every way. I love detailed bass, comfortable mids and clean/clear highs that don't make me cringe. I'm hyper sensitive to overly bright tweets. They sound natural, fill the room (20'x20'x18') with great sound yet you hear very little from the room and almost all from the speakers. It's almost like having the sound fired right at your ears. This limits the sweet spot some but balances out for others walking around the house. When we entertain, they also fill the adjoining kitchen with clean sound. Problem is I'm always dying to try something else. Scott  |
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Post by The History Kid on Jul 10, 2016 21:17:14 GMT -5
I think Bill Dudleston is building some of the best (USA) speakers today Focus SEI've been greatly enjoying my Whispers this last year. Very different than other speakers I've owned in almost every way. I love detailed bass, comfortable mids and clean/clear highs that don't make me cringe. I'm hyper sensitive to overly bright tweets. They sound natural, fill the room (20'x20'x18') with great sound yet you hear very little from the room and almost all from the speakers. It's almost like having the sound fired right at your ears. This limits the sweet spot some but balances out for others walking around the house. When we entertain, they also fill the adjoining kitchen with clean sound. Problem is I'm always dying to try something else. Scott I have now seen your speakers twice, and I get a little saltier each time. Will you adopt me? |
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Post by hemster on Jul 10, 2016 21:18:51 GMT -5
As most of you may know by now, my favorite speakers are the MBL Radialstrahler 101 E MKIIs. These unfortunately are just a little bit out of my budget! (OK, a lot out of budget).
A few of us auditioned these at Axpona a few years ago (me, LCSeminole, jlafrenz) They are absolutely amazing. The soundstage is incredible as are dynamics and rapid transitioning. That they look stunning just adds to the WAF. Not only my WAF, but most people's!
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Post by DavidR on Jul 10, 2016 21:20:30 GMT -5
David, The Wilson Alexandria XLF speakers look butt ugly to me! Yup. |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 10, 2016 21:24:41 GMT -5
simpleman68 I don't like bright tweets either or shrill like you get with some ribbons. I knew you had those Legacys.
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Post by gus4emo on Jul 10, 2016 21:25:10 GMT -5
I think Bill Dudleston is building some of the best (USA) speakers today Focus SEThe Wilson Alexandria XLF (aka Rockem' Sockem' Robot speakers) cost as much as some houses. They weight 665 lbs each. Those Wilsons must sound spectacular, although they look like they can transform into something else at anytime, lol |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 10, 2016 21:30:32 GMT -5
Here's a British speaker not well known. I'm not too fond of the hub cap like thingies on the woofers. PMC MB2S XBD |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 10, 2016 21:36:03 GMT -5
The Wilson Alexandria XLF ( aka Rockem' Sockem' Robot speakers) cost as much as some houses. They weight 665 lbs each. Those Wilsons must sound spectacular, although they look like they can transform into something else at anytime, lol They remind me of this old toy  |
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