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Post by audiotrex on Jan 26, 2017 1:12:36 GMT -5
Greetings,
This is my first post. I have been lurking around and reading for a few weeks. I recently became the proud owner of my first piece of Emotiva gear. the BasX PT-100. I would highly recommend this PT-100 unit to anyone seeking a high quality preamp, DAC, phono preamp, or headphone preamp. In answer to the OP, I would personally recommend the PT-100 over the TA-100 for the following reason(s); one could always purchase a pair of excellent active monitors such as the the Airmotiv 5s, or JBL LSR305's which I currently own and sound fantastic with the PT-100 using my HTPC, CD player, and turntable as a sources. The FM tuner sounds great as well. I have not tried the Bluetooth feature...,
Anyway, with active monitors there is no need for additional amplification or speaker wires, and a decent set of rca cables will work just fine to send the signal. This also allows the option of upgrading to a separate higher power amplifier and larger passive speakers if desired in the future. I'm certain that the amp in the TA-100 is actually fantastic, and I can see where it might be the perfect one box solution for a bedroom, apartment, office hi-fi unit, etc... and it also offers pre-outs to use with a larger/separate amplifier if one so desired. One vote for the Pt-100; although you can't go wrong either way!
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Post by audiotrex on Jan 26, 2017 2:21:53 GMT -5
If I like the PT-100, I may be tempted to ALSO get the TA-100. Just sayin' Good plan. I love my PT-100 it is part of my desktop system. Now I'm already considering a TA-100 for a pair of bookshelf speakers in the bedroom. Contagious! |
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Post by cgramer on Jan 30, 2017 11:16:06 GMT -5
Why not spend the extra $100.00 over the PT-100? Im not discounting the fact that $100 is $100 but it would appear that they're the same unit but for $100 you get an integrated. Ease of use and versatility goes way up, so does resale value IMHO! I'm new to the forum, but as I'm getting set to pull the trigger on the PT-100 and A-300 power amp, I thought I'd chime in.  I think if you're looking to set up a simple system for your living room or den, the TA-100 would be a great option. The Emotiva site doesn't seem to list the specs for the TA-100's amp, but going by the model number (as compared with the A-100 and A-300), I'm going to guess it has 50 watts per channel. Plenty to drive a pair of efficient bookshelf or even floorstanding speakers for casual listening. However, the A-300, which is quite affordable at $399, offers 150 watts per channel and, possibly (again, the amp's specs for the TA-100 seem to be missing), cleaner sound. Additionally, having a separate preamp and power amp lets you make up for the "missing" bass management features by connecting a high-pass filter in between, such as the one I plan to get from Hsu. For serious listening, I'd go with (and plan to) the PT-100 and A-300. Just my $0.02! Chris |
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Post by cgramer on Jan 30, 2017 11:33:19 GMT -5
Additionally, having a separate preamp and power amp lets you make up for the "missing" bass management features by connecting a high-pass filter in between, such as the one I plan to get from Hsu. For serious listening, I'd go with (and plan to) the PT-100 and A-300. I see that the TA-100 also has summed mono outputs for a sub and main outs for a separate power amp, so you could do the same thing (add the A-300 or other power amp, with a high-pass filter in between if you want) I'm planning to, but later on down the road as an upgrade. Nice. So I guess it depends what your current needs are. For me, I'm setting up my (hopefully) rest-of-my-life-serious-listening-system, so I'm going to spring for the bigger amp from the start.  Can't wait to pull the trigger! Chris |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 30, 2017 13:17:39 GMT -5
Why not spend the extra $100.00 over the PT-100? Im not discounting the fact that $100 is $100 but it would appear that they're the same unit but for $100 you get an integrated. Ease of use and versatility goes way up, so does resale value IMHO! I'm new to the forum, but as I'm getting set to pull the trigger on the PT-100 and A-300 power amp, I thought I'd chime in. I think if you're looking to set up a simple system for your living room or den, the TA-100 would be a great option. The Emotiva site doesn't seem to list the specs for the TA-100's amp, but going by the model number (as compared with the A-100 and A-300), I'm going to guess it has 50 watts per channel. Plenty to drive a pair of efficient bookshelf or even floorstanding speakers for casual listening. However, the A-300, which is quite affordable at $399, offers 150 watts per channel and, possibly (again, the amp's specs for the TA-100 seem to be missing), cleaner sound. Additionally, having a separate preamp and power amp lets you make up for the "missing" bass management features by connecting a high-pass filter in between, such as the one I plan to get from Hsu. For serious listening, I'd go with (and plan to) the PT-100 and A-300. Just my $0.02! Chris Hi Chris, you are correct that the TA-100 is a 50 wpc unit. Self contained, pick it up and go if need be. It does have pre outs for two channels as well as sub out. Bass management via your sub and tone controls. Currently i have an UPA-500 which is 80 wpc into 5 channels and 125 wpc into 2 channels. Sounds fantastic and has a little more dynamics with the external amp. It is pretty good for a starter piece and you could add an additinal amp of whatever power later. If your needing to save for what you really want in an amp. The TA-100 and PT-100 are the same units but for the amp modual in the TA-100. DAC is way above the price point and the connectivity of the units is great, even the phono stage is excellent, most likely an XPS-1 unit. Im sure you'll enjoy your choice, I just wanted to help inform others with my two cents. |
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Post by vneal on Aug 3, 2017 14:40:15 GMT -5
OK I have a TA 100 and no I cannot leave well enough alone. I added a A 300. Sound is much better
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Post by novisnick on Aug 3, 2017 15:43:06 GMT -5
OK I have a TA 100 and no I cannot leave well enough alone. I added a A 300. Sound is much better Of course its better, but if you need a temporary fix for another room or something you can just grab it and go. Ive added a UPA-500 for two channel. Now that Im rebuilding my system and my XPA-5 is in the shop Ill break out a set of XPA-1Ls. Its all good! 😁 |
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Post by vneal on Aug 3, 2017 21:55:35 GMT -5
Well I got a TA 100 and it don't sound like a 50 watt amp.
But just ordered a A300 to get a few more watts
report pending
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Post by novisnick on Aug 3, 2017 21:59:16 GMT -5
Well I got a TA 100 and it don't sound like a 50 watt amp. But just ordered a A300 to get a few more watts report pending Thats what I said when I got mine. It drives my LS50's very well, they can dip below 4 ohms easily and often. But the TA-100 preforms better then what Emo claims. |
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 5, 2017 13:54:38 GMT -5
My step daughter is picking up the TA-100 today that she bought at Emofest (she lives about 30 min from there). She already has her new XRT-5.2s that were on sale in the Area 51 for a crazy good price. This will be her first nice system so I'm really excited to hear her reaction once she turns it up.
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Post by vneal on Sept 5, 2017 19:32:51 GMT -5
My step daughter is picking up the TA-100 today that she bought at Emofest (she lives about 30 min from there). She already has her new XRT-5.2s that were on sale in the Area 51 for a crazy good price. This will be her first nice system so I'm really excited to hear her reaction once she turns it up. You are raising her right. |
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 5, 2017 20:05:21 GMT -5
She just called and wanted to know how to get the image to be more centered, so she's already leaning how to toe in the speakers to tune her sweet spot. And she says the system sounds fantastic!
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Post by novisnick on Sept 5, 2017 20:12:01 GMT -5
She just called and wanted to know how to get the image to be more centered, so she's already leaning how to toe in the speakers to tune her sweet spot. And she says the system sounds fantastic! You've done a fine job! 👍🎶 |
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Post by siggie on Sept 6, 2017 7:35:07 GMT -5
She just called and wanted to know how to get the image to be more centered, so she's already leaning how to toe in the speakers to tune her sweet spot. And she says the system sounds fantastic! Be careful not to reveal her identity, or she'll have lounge lizards chatting her up! siggie |
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 6, 2017 7:56:36 GMT -5
She just called and wanted to know how to get the image to be more centered, so she's already leaning how to toe in the speakers to tune her sweet spot. And she says the system sounds fantastic! Be careful not to reveal her identity, or she'll have lounge lizards chatting her up! siggie Haha, good point. |
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Post by prairiedawg on Jun 30, 2020 15:16:01 GMT -5
Hi Everyone: this is actually the question I joined this forum for. I have a relatively high end HT setup that I'm happy with (for now - I assume most people on a home audio forum know what I mean lol) but looking to set up a decent second system in another room solely dedicated to 2 channel stereo for music. Although the whole online shopping thing has bridged some gaps I feel like I should mention I'm from Canada and you'd probably be shocked at the difference in options (or lack thereof) compared to our big brother south of the border when it comes to the big box stores. I have been interested in Emotiva for a while now based on fairly consistent reviews with regards to value for the money etc but here's my dilemma: the PT-100 or the TA-100. I am also going to be purchasing the BASX A-300 either way so let's get that out of the way but I'm hoping someone can shed some light on if there are any noticeable differences between these two pre-amps. I'm trying to anticipate a couple questions so here goes:
- I understand the argument for true separates (which I agree with btw) but obviously like the versatility that comes with an integrated in case it ends up in a different role down the road.
- they will be driving a pair of power hungry Polk RTIA9's (500 watt, 90db sensitivity). I want to run true stereo with no sub but it's important to note I've had these forever and are some of my favorite speakers. They get dang low if needed (I think thy're actually rated down to 20Hz) and they can be bi-amp/bi-wired with four dedicated posts on each speaker.
- I realize the XPA-2 or even mono blocks would probably better pair with the RTIA9's but while I have zero issues shelling out an extra $150 for the integrated, an extra $900 or more for something I'm buying "unheard" is a bit of a different story and I can always upgrade. I've also always been in the quality over volume camp...I'm a happy metalhead but when it comes to home audio I've never really subscribed to the whole SpinalTap/Lemmy train of thought where things need to go to "eleven" if it means a trade-off...I'll take clean over loud every time.
I can find lots of reviews and info on both the PT-100 and the TA-100 but nothing really comparing the two. Maybe this is all irrelevant and they sound the same as they're basically the same piece of kit but but just hoping there's someone that has used both these pieces in the same setup and might have some insight. I'm not sure how much of a difference those few extra watts might make or if there's a real word difference that can be heard with one being an integrated. I would appreciate any insight or advice before I pull the trigger on one or the other.
-thanks guys and gals
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Post by garbulky on Jun 30, 2020 15:45:22 GMT -5
Hi Everyone: this is actually the question I joined this forum for. I have a relatively high end HT setup that I'm happy with (for now - I assume most people on a home audio forum know what I mean lol) but looking to set up a decent second system in another room solely dedicated to 2 channel stereo for music. Although the whole online shopping thing has bridged some gaps I feel like I should mention I'm from Canada and you'd probably be shocked at the difference in options (or lack thereof) compared to our big brother south of the border when it comes to the big box stores. I have been interested in Emotiva for a while now based on fairly consistent reviews with regards to value for the money etc but here's my dilemma: the PT-100 or the TA-100. I am also going to be purchasing the BASX A-300 either way so let's get that out of the way but I'm hoping someone can shed some light on if there are any noticeable differences between these two pre-amps. I'm trying to anticipate a couple questions so here goes: - I understand the argument for true separates (which I agree with btw) but obviously like the versatility that comes with an integrated in case it ends up in a different role down the road. - they will be driving a pair of power hungry Polk RTIA9's (500 watt, 90db sensitivity). I want to run true stereo with no sub but it's important to note I've had these forever and are some of my favorite speakers. They get dang low if needed (I think thy're actually rated down to 20Hz) and they can be bi-amp/bi-wired with four dedicated posts on each speaker. - I realize the XPA-2 or even mono blocks would probably better pair with the RTIA9's but while I have zero issues shelling out an extra $150 for the integrated, an extra $900 or more for something I'm buying "unheard" is a bit of a different story and I can always upgrade. I've also always been in the quality over volume camp...I'm a happy metalhead but when it comes to home audio I've never really subscribed to the whole SpinalTap/Lemmy train of thought where things need to go to "eleven" if it means a trade-off...I'll take clean over loud every time. I can find lots of reviews and info on both the PT-100 and the TA-100 but nothing really comparing the two. Maybe this is all irrelevant and they sound the same as they're basically the same piece of kit but but just hoping there's someone that has used both these pieces in the same setup and might have some insight. I'm not sure how much of a difference those few extra watts might make or if there's a real word difference that can be heard with one being an integrated. I would appreciate any insight or advice before I pull the trigger on one or the other. -thanks guys and gals Hi. I think the best price to performance option in your case would be a used DC-1 (about 275) to a pair of Emotiva PA-1 amps. Failing that, PT-100 to PA-1 amp Failing that PT-100 to A-300. If you are using the A-300 I wouldn't bother with the TA-100. But I doubt you'd hurt the soudn quality going with the TA-100 over the PT-100. (I have heard all these products except for the TA-100). |
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Post by cheapthryl on Jun 30, 2020 19:25:57 GMT -5
The front end (preamp) are the same. The TA gives you a $100/50 watt into 8 ohm amp, built in. You have the option of bypass or use as a one unit solution until demands require otherwise.
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Post by prairiedawg on Jul 2, 2020 14:59:40 GMT -5
Yup I realize these are the identical preamp and dac just with the TA having the additional amp section but I have always gone with higher end all-in-one home theater receivers and I`m new to the whole separates thing. While admittedly I have no experience with them I have been led to believe a true preamp only should sound and perform better than an integrated (at least in theory). I may have asked the wrong question but I think you answered it with something I did not think about...if I can run the TA-100 in bypass to a second power amp (which I`ll be doing either way) would I completely take the TA-100`s amp section out of the equation essentially giving the exact same sound and characteristics as the PT-100. I was thinking along the lines of it all stacking and not isolating that amp section in the TA. I`m pretty sure the above poster is correct also and there`s not going to be any real world sound quality difference anyway making this all moot but just trying to get as much information as I can and was kind of hoping someone out there has maybe used both of these at one time or another to directly compare. If I can essentially `turn off` that 100 watt amp in the TA-100 with it just being there in case I ever need it then that pretty much clears up my decision.
-thanks again
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Post by gentlejax on Aug 21, 2020 7:30:14 GMT -5
Yup I realize these are the identical preamp and dac just with the TA having the additional amp section but I have always gone with higher end all-in-one home theater receivers and I`m new to the whole separates thing. While admittedly I have no experience with them I have been led to believe a true preamp only should sound and perform better than an integrated (at least in theory). I may have asked the wrong question but I think you answered it with something I did not think about...if I can run the TA-100 in bypass to a second power amp (which I`ll be doing either way) would I completely take the TA-100`s amp section out of the equation essentially giving the exact same sound and characteristics as the PT-100. I was thinking along the lines of it all stacking and not isolating that amp section in the TA. I`m pretty sure the above poster is correct also and there`s not going to be any real world sound quality difference anyway making this all moot but just trying to get as much information as I can and was kind of hoping someone out there has maybe used both of these at one time or another to directly compare. If I can essentially `turn off` that 100 watt amp in the TA-100 with it just being there in case I ever need it then that pretty much clears up my decision. -thanks again I had the same Polk RTiA9 speakers. very nice. but unless you have power , and I mean real power, they sound bright. those woofers wont even wake up without 300 or more watts per side. I had at least 500 per. So id use my money towards the amp you will need. I never bi-amped. But I sold them and I bought a pair of Emo T2 and they sound much better. of course everything else in the system has now changed so its not completley fair but I do recall that it takes lots of power to make those speakers sound like they look. |
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