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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 20, 2016 5:08:28 GMT -5
The Emotiva Stealth DC-1 DAC has been around for quite a while now (compared to other Emotiva models). Has there been any buzz about it being replaced or updated with a new model? I'd also ask the same about the venerable XSP-1, Gen. 2 preamplifier?
The Generation 3 amplifiers are already here, and enquiring minds want to know! LOL
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Post by klinemj on Sept 20, 2016 5:38:47 GMT -5
I have not heard anything about either.
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Post by Lonnie on Sept 20, 2016 6:22:08 GMT -5
All I can say right now is there is one in the works.
Without giving away what I'm working on, I am curious as to what features or things you guys would like to see on it. I just want to make sure that what we are building falls in line with what our customers want. So here is your chance. Tell me what you want to see in it.
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Post by geebo on Sept 20, 2016 6:55:47 GMT -5
All I can say right now is there is one in the works. Without giving away what I'm working on, I am curious as to what features or things you guys would like to see on it. I just want to make sure that what we are building falls in line with what our customers want. So here is your chance. Tell me what you want to see in it. Lonnie . DSD would be nice. |
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Post by Lonnie on Sept 20, 2016 7:05:26 GMT -5
All I can say right now is there is one in the works. Without giving away what I'm working on, I am curious as to what features or things you guys would like to see on it. I just want to make sure that what we are building falls in line with what our customers want. So here is your chance. Tell me what you want to see in it. Lonnie . DSD would be nice. OK, so we got DSD, what else would you like to see? Lonnie |
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 20, 2016 7:17:07 GMT -5
Hi Lonnie -
For the Stealth update:
Meridian MQA capability
analog volume control with remote
at least one analog input
spare no expense sound quality
For the preamp update:
fully balanced, differential bass management
clearly defined turnover frequencies for the bass management
spare no expense sound quality
PS: Since the world is mostly digital now (despite the current, but temporary vinyl resurgence) and since the major audio companies (including Emotiva) now offer outboard phono sections, I'd be just as happy to see the phono section of the "new XSP-1" go away and have the preamp become a line-stage only. But I'm aware that I may be in a minority on this one.
I'd also go with the "simpler is better" theme on the preamp with omission of some "mid-fi" features such as the tone controls (that interfere with the fully-balanced circuitry). In fact, with the addition of some "unbalanced to balanced" converter wires to Emotiva's inventory, I'd suggest omitting unbalanced inputs entirely from the preamp. Subwoofer outputs, by and large, are still unbalanced on most makes & models, but again - with some converter wires, there's another pair of unbalanced outputs that could be eliminated...
Spend the money saved on elimination of mid fi features to make the new preamp a world-class wonder in terms of sound quality and watch the sales volume grow...
And, in fact, if Emotiva wanted to offer an XSP-1 with the Stealth DC-1 built in, I'd be the first in line!
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Post by geebo on Sept 20, 2016 7:23:05 GMT -5
OK, so we got DSD, what else would you like to see? Lonnie A USB type A port for memory devices. Balanced headphone amp. And, of course, everything the DC-1 has. |
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Post by sahmen on Sept 20, 2016 7:26:02 GMT -5
Optional NOS (No oversampling) functionality, and whilst we're at it, why not go the "multibit" route too, for a change?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 7:29:56 GMT -5
OK, so we got DSD, what else would you like to see? Lonnie Hope you don't mind if I ask a slightly off component question here. I would like to see Emo publish AP (Audio Precision) tests results for both 8 and 4 ohms on the new BASX power amps (A-300, A-500, A-700). The published spec's on the 8 ohm output look great but the spec's on the 4 ohm output are at clipping rather than a more reasonable THD distortion level. I think potential buyers would be more confident to drive their 4 ohm speakers. |
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Post by pedrocols on Sept 20, 2016 7:54:59 GMT -5
I want just a straight up DAC. No headphone amp, no volume control. The least features the better. Spend the money on sound quality!
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Post by Axis on Sept 20, 2016 8:47:23 GMT -5
Not sure where this new Stealth DC-1 is going but the current one is excellent for using with a computer on a computer desktop. I have both the DC-1 and SP-1 sitting on my computer desktop and the compact design makes it possible for it to resign right next to my hand to control it. It allows both digital and analog inputs which I could not live without. It provides selection of inputs with the rotation of one knob and volume control with the other. Mute is just a simple push on the volume control.
It has excellent sound quality both digital and analog. It has excellent headphone output.
The only improvement I could recommend is as mentioned in the Head-Fi review. Power off requires to long when pressing the volume control. This was too separate the mute function from the power down when pushing the volume control. A better design may be to have separate button.
I would have recommended that all the small Stealth modules used a trigger system. Currently I have my remote sitting on top of my DC-1. The power on and off buttons are on the top of the remote so I have the remote sitting on top of the DC-1 with the top of the remote facing me. I can press on and off on the remote without having to pick it up and both the DC-1 and SP-1 power on and off together.
What is going to happen with the Stealth digital amp modules when they come out ? Will they respond to the remote command ?
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Post by garbulky on Sept 20, 2016 9:09:46 GMT -5
Keep it dual mono Lonnie. I couldn't care about DSD. BETTER SOUND QUALITY. You can do what you want with the rest - just keep the sound quality there and keep it as purist as you have. I am perfectly fine with BETTER REMOTE DESIGN  The most important thing here is the volume up and down buttons. But looking at it you can see there's a mute button right in the middle. Result - muting. Then there is a dim button right above the volume button - result dimming. So basically keep the volume buttons by themselves. The rest is fine. Oh and if you can improve those tiny screw design to something a bit more user friendly that would be nice too. I've got to go hunt down a tiny screwdriver every time I need to change batteries. Maybe a SLIDING COVER for the battery? Don't try any fancy futuristic ergonomic designs. Just want something simple that works. |
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Post by brutiarti on Sept 20, 2016 9:14:08 GMT -5
lonnie Full size rack and keep it fully balanced. It has to compete with the shiit yggy regarding sound quality
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Post by creimes on Sept 20, 2016 9:24:53 GMT -5
Have you guys considered a DAC that would directly compete with the Schiit Modi, I've owned two of them and really loved the form factor and price/quality and yes I do own a Little EGO right now that I really enjoy for my headphone setup at my PC  Chad |
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Post by Axis on Sept 20, 2016 9:28:30 GMT -5
OK, so we got DSD, what else would you like to see? Lonnie A USB type A port for memory devices. Balanced headphone amp. And, of course, everything the DC-1 has. Yes, a USP port on the front. A separate Stealth module balanced headphone amp. If you are going to remodel or enlarge this new Stealth DC-1 give it two sets of balanced XLR outs so one set could be used for a balanced headphone amp and one set for monitors/amplification. There are many that are buying and using the DC-1 just because it is balanced and they want a balanced DAC for there balanced headphone amp. Make a matching Stealth balanced headphone amp that Rocks Emotiva ! You can do it Lonnie ! Emotiva you should know this already. |
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Post by garbulky on Sept 20, 2016 9:39:22 GMT -5
A USB type A port for memory devices. Balanced headphone amp. And, of course, everything the DC-1 has. Yes, a USP port on the front. A separate Stealth module balanced headphone amp. If you are going to remodel or enlarge this new Stealth DC-1 give it two sets of balanced XLR outs so one set could be used for a balanced headphone amp and one set for monitors/amplification. There are many that are buying and using the DC-1 just because it is balanced and they want a balanced DAC for there balanced headphone amp. Make a matching Stealth balanced headphone amp that Rocks Emotiva ! You can do it Lonnie ! Emotiva you should know this already. A balanced headphone amp companion that competes with the Schiit Jotunheim would be a great idea. You could have a DC-1 stack. The new DC-1 DAC, SP-1, Balnaced headphone amp, ICE monoblock modules. That's pretty cool right there. |
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Post by KeithL on Sept 20, 2016 9:42:51 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to move this one post to the section where it belongs..... (we do have a section for the BasX amps). However, we'll almost certainly publish the APs when we get around to running nice pretty ones. HOWEVER, as with almost all solid state Class A/B amps, the THD on the BasX amps remains low until almost full power, then rises rapidly at or near clipping. OK, so we got DSD, what else would you like to see? Lonnie Hope you don't mind if I ask a slightly off component question here. I would like to see Emo publish AP (Audio Precision) tests results for both 8 and 4 ohms on the new BASX power amps (A-300, A-500, A-700). The published spec's on the 8 ohm output look great but the spec's on the 4 ohm output are at clipping rather than a more reasonable THD distortion level. I think potential buyers would be more confident to drive their 4 ohm speakers. |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 20, 2016 10:46:23 GMT -5
I want just a straight up DAC. No headphone amp, no volume control. The least features the better. Spend the money on sound quality! +1. Sounds good to me. I think I'm in the minority here though. Everyone seems to want to be using these with headphones while sitting at their computer. That's fine, I get that; very useful in those situations. But those folks have about 5000 options out there to choose from. Units like that are common place; every company is making them it seems. What's not so common place is the highest of sound quality rack units that go with high end stereo systems. In those cases, the shape is different (rack size width), and there isn't need for the headphone amp or volume control. But also in that case, I think a few more inputs are required, and I for one would like to see a digital pass through output for those of us to still record stuff. I've seen some units out there like this, but they tend to be much more expensive. I know I'm most certainly not going to get what I want, so, for now, I'll just wait patiently to see what comes along. |
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Post by geebo on Sept 20, 2016 10:57:38 GMT -5
lonnie Full size rack and keep it fully balanced. It has to compete with the shiit yggy regarding sound quality I like the full rack width, too. |
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Post by Loop 7 on Sept 20, 2016 13:25:51 GMT -5
Regarding MQA, I'm cynical about manufacturers having to license such a closed codec solution.
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