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Post by 405x5 on Sept 25, 2016 10:30:15 GMT -5
IPhone 8 will be made of vinyl. So there it is! we'll have an IPhone 8 made of vinyl and powered by tubes with illuminated knobs for controlling everything from volume to music selection. And it will only play at 78 rpm. Have i missed anything? Im listening!   Careful there😱 If you bend over and one of those tubes cracks, you may be transformed into a soprano‼️ Bill |
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Post by adaboy on Sept 25, 2016 10:33:59 GMT -5
I used to do that before iOS 9, and it only works 10% of the time. , but in a more controlled fashion. Curious why it's not done like photos in apple......trashed photos are recoverable automatically for 29 days, as you are most likely aware. Bill Not a complete Apple basher, as I too used to own iPhones from the 3g to the 4s, but the incremental upgrades and slowing down of the perfectly good older models cost Apple a customer. (rant over) My wife still has a couple of iPads running around here. This is what bothers me about Apple's arrogance. Simple features they think are not cool anymore they stroke the magic pen pencil and it's gone. Not sure why they do this, I have lots of ideas though. I'm happy for you guys that you are getting a product that works for you and my mother  |
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 25, 2016 11:09:57 GMT -5
Interesting remarks, but I'm new to apple as an adopter (January) starting with a pod touch, so no problems yet.
I like the fact that the operating system is the security and don't have to deal with anti virus products.
Time will tell I suppose
Bill
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Post by wilburthegoose on Sept 25, 2016 11:58:33 GMT -5
Or provide a spam filter
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Post by username on Sept 25, 2016 21:39:11 GMT -5
it's always amusing when these 'world vs Apple' ideological-sounding discussions ensue.
funny thing on our flight yesterday morning from Detroit to New York: the pre-takeoff instructions by the crew included - in addition to the standard instructions about airplane mode etc - 'if you are on a samsung galaxy phone, do not turn it on, do not charge it, just leave it off till we arrive and you get off the plane !'
to us Apple aficionados (meaning me) hearing this was quite the hoot. (back in the '90's i felt i was personally trying to keep Apple in business. the universe continues to unfold as the late Pierre Trudeau would say.)
but as previous posts suggest, always good to hang on to what works well. I recently upgraded my iPhone 5 to - another 5 !
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Sept 25, 2016 22:19:26 GMT -5
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Post by adaboy on Sept 25, 2016 22:19:26 GMT -5
it's always amusing when these 'world vs Apple' ideological-sounding discussions ensue. funny thing on our flight yesterday morning from Detroit to New York: the pre-takeoff instructions by the crew included - in addition to the standard instructions about airplane mode etc - 'if you are on a samsung galaxy phone, do not turn it on, do not charge it, just leave it off till we arrive and you get off the plane !' to us Apple aficionados (meaning me) hearing this was quite the hoot. (back in the '90's i felt i was personally trying to keep Apple in business. the universe continues to unfold as the late Pierre Trudeau would say.) but as previous posts suggest, always good to hang on to what works well. I recently upgraded my iPhone 5 to - another 5 ! Meh, the Samsung Galaxy "Note" 7 was a big snafu with battery issue. Other than that Samsung has a strong reputation. Apple vs the world is a preference, but when you lift the hood you see apple is full crap I mean it's a PC. Not a fan of there OS and if I ever got one Windows would be my very first purchase for the machine. (that would never happen) I will continue to build my own. Not sure airlines are a good measuring stick as it took many wasted years for them to realize that phones posed no risk to the avionics... 😞 |
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Sept 25, 2016 22:21:35 GMT -5
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Post by adaboy on Sept 25, 2016 22:21:35 GMT -5
I used to have a mac machine "emac or imac"? I think the flavor was orange or tangerine. Gave it away after 2 months of not using it.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 25, 2016 23:11:18 GMT -5
Right now, I'm using Samsung in the living room as part of the entertainment system, (their warranty protection free has been outstanding) A pair of Apple IPhone SE's for my wife and I A windows 10 pc in the office that just got a very substantial update from Microsoft. All 3 doing their jobs well enough to suit me without bashing anyone. Means to an end tools to me, that's all  Bill |
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Post by audiobill on Sept 26, 2016 2:59:56 GMT -5
As a business guy, I used to cling to the IBM/DOS/Windows environment....
Then I got tired of reconfiguring everything with every update or install.
My time's worth much more than all that.....
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Sept 26, 2016 8:25:56 GMT -5
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Post by adaboy on Sept 26, 2016 8:25:56 GMT -5
As a business guy, I used to cling to the IBM/DOS/Windows environment.... Then I got tired of reconfiguring everything with every update or install. My time's worth much more than all that..... Thanks for bringing up DOS! My dad was is a computer programmer in the tooling industry which introduced me to computers at a very early age. I remember trying to play video games on them and all but without help I could only do so much in DOS. Yuck. Now a days the updates are fairly simple regarding reconfiguring is concerned not much to it. Going to Windows 8 was a awkward transition with slight learning curve but it wasn't difficult. Now 7-10 all feel quite easy to me. |
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Post by audiobill on Sept 26, 2016 9:20:26 GMT -5
And we'd still be coding in DOS without Xerox developing the Lisa in Unix, which Apple grabbed and MS has tried to copy on their creaky DOS platform!
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Post by KeithL on Sept 26, 2016 9:34:28 GMT -5
I feel exactly the same way.... Isn't it lucky that nobody ever has trouble when Apple comes out with a new O/S - and everything just works? (Oh, err, wait a minute.... that's not quite right.... well, most of it works... usually..... except for the bits that don't...... and the ones you have to update......) I'm sorry, but I'll opt for power and flexibility over a limited selection of software and a fenced-in ecosystem every time. (I guess that's why 85% of desktop computers still "cling" to Windows.) However, I will say that Apple makes an excellent phone  . To each his own. As a business guy, I used to cling to the IBM/DOS/Windows environment.... Then I got tired of reconfiguring everything with every update or install. My time's worth much more than all that..... |
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Post by KeithL on Sept 26, 2016 9:42:54 GMT -5
I think you've pegged it with your last thought.... Microsoft has dominated the desktop computer market for years.... and Apple doesn't have a hope of taking it back. As far as laptops, especially ones with touch screens, Microsoft seems to have the current lead there as well. But the entire market for real computers is dwindling.... being replaced by tablets and smart phones. Apple makes great phones.... And a lot of people seem to like their tablets. (And, face it, iTunes proved that getting there first is much more important than doing it best...... ) However, you also need to remember that Windows isn't Microsoft's only product either.... And not very many people in the big commercial market take Apple seriously. For example.... Apple's powerful enterprise level web server.... oh.... wait a minute.... they don't HAVE one, do they? And their big database stuff..... err....ohh.... oops... sorry again...... (I could be wrong.... maybe they do exist... and I've just never heard of them.) Yes, Apple leads the phone world (thanks mostly to Samsung's battery fiasco), but the phone world is ever changing. Next month, the tide may shift again. In the computer world, though, Apple seems determined to walk away from their business market. There have been no significant changes the their Mac products other than speed increases, while Microsoft is innovating in ways that bring market share - tablets with touch screens & serious processors & RAM - improvements in the server market products - etc. It seems that Apple has decided to abdicate their foothold in the business market and let Microsoft / IBM have it by default. I own a 2009 MacBook Pro business computer with a 17" matte screen. I need it due to my eyesight and due to the fact that the matte screen doesn't glare at me if I'm given a location at the client's place with significant backlighting. I don't get to control such things, yet I've got to work long hours despite any impediments. I'm trying to extend the life of that computer by switching from 4 to 8 Gigs of RAM (the most my machine will take) and by switching from the 500 GB Hitachi hard drive to a 1 TB SSD drive. But those are stopgap measures that will work but for another few years. I'd happily buy a new MacBook, but they no longer offer 17" screens AND they no longer offer matte screen finishes. If they can't sell me the product I need, then they've lost me as a customer. Pay attention to that last sentence - It has implications beyond the world of computers... But I digress - Unless Apple changes their product line to recognize those of us who are no longer 17 years old, they stand to lose some business. Perhaps they make enough on phones & watches that they no longer care? But I'd be first in line for a MacBook Pro with a 19 to 21 inch screen in a matte finish. Sigh... |
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Post by audiobill on Sept 26, 2016 9:55:16 GMT -5
Keith, are you saying that building Windows on the DOS platform was an inspired choice?
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Post by garbulky on Sept 26, 2016 10:44:43 GMT -5
Right now, I'm using Samsung in the living room as part of the entertainment system, (their warranty protection free has been outstanding) A pair of Apple IPhone SE's for my wife and I A windows 10 pc in the office that just got a very substantial update from Microsoft. All 3 doing their jobs well enough to suit me without bashing anyone. Means to an end tools to me, that's all Bill I'm wanting an iphone SE. Do you find their camera pretty good? |
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 26, 2016 11:10:39 GMT -5
I'm wanting an iphone SE. Do you find their camera pretty good? [/quote]
Yeah 👌
More than pretty good.
I no longer have a reason to carry a dedicated 🎥
Camera.
A friend of mine who is into photography never used to go anywhere without that huge digital camera of his.
Since he got the six,
He's been leaving the thing home lately.
Bill
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Post by audiobill on Sept 26, 2016 11:17:36 GMT -5
I guess so!:
12‑megapixel camera
ƒ/2.2 aperture
Five‑element lens
5x digital zoom
Live Photos with stabilization
Local tone mapping
Face detection
True Tone flash
Sapphire crystal lens cover
Backside illumination sensor
Hybrid IR filter
Autofocus with Focus Pixels
Tap to focus with Focus Pixels
Exposure control
Noise reduction
Auto HDR for photos
Panorama (up to 63 megapixels)
Auto image stabilization
Burst mode
Timer mode
Photo geotagging
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Sept 26, 2016 11:34:12 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 26, 2016 11:34:12 GMT -5
Well....YES👏
Those are the specs on it
.......AND all I wanted was a phone 📱
The only reason I got a smartphone was not to be left in the dark ages.
But what really happened was that my bride and daughter got me an iPod Touch for Christmas 🎄 so with that I already had the interface sans phone.
Even with the redundancy, I don't mind having the two devices ( both are 64 gig each)
Bill
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Post by KeithL on Sept 26, 2016 11:57:16 GMT -5
Inspired, no, not especially. But then both Windows and MacOS are both based on a graphical interface that Xerox abandoned..... because they didn't think anybody would like it. And running cars on burning petroleum distillates probably wasn't an inspired choice either. Microsoft built Windows on top of what was already the most popular desktop operating system for consumers - which was DOS. And I assume that, at the time, someone figured that made more sense than starting from scratch.... (At the time Windows was basically a graphical shell for DOS.... ). However, I'm not looking for "inspired", but simply for "does what I want as well as possible". And, given the choice, I'd rather have it at a good price. At the moment, for a given level of performance, Apple's hardware costs quite a bit more than Microsoft (although they're getting closer). And the selection of software available for Apple is much more limited. And, to be honest, Windows software has been getting steadily less complicated, and Apple software has been getting steadily MORE complicated. Configuring a new Apple computer to get on a network, and talk to a DAC, and getting it to play 24/192k high-res audio bit-perfect, really isn't any easier than getting a PC to do it. And, with the PC, I have lots more software options; and most of them are cheaper. The reality is that either one is going to seem "easier" or "more intuitive" if it's what you've been using for the last ten years.... If you like the options they're chosen FOR YOU, then you'll probably like the Apple better.... But, if you want more choices, or you don't like letting other people choose for you, then you'll probably like Windows better.... And the fact that Microsoft currently "owns" about 85% of the desktop computer market tells you which way most people who still use desktop computers usually go.... And, no, I've never been a fan of "walled ecosystems" - where you are limited to a few (often more expensive) choices. Keith, are you saying that building Windows on the DOS platform was an inspired choice? |
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Post by Wideawake on Sept 26, 2016 14:01:54 GMT -5
Windows is by far the worse OS that I have come across. Just because it owns the larger market share does not make it a good OS. Mac OS X is what I use and prefer among the current crop of available operating systems. I primarily look for ease of use and a good user experience. Regarding cost, I look at the total cost of ownership. Every useless hour I spend in maintaining or giving attention to the OS factors into the cost matrix. From that perspective, I believe that Macs are less expensive to own than a Windows or Linux based machine. Let me say upfront that I’m not an Apple fan and this post is not with an intent to start a flame war. I’m merely expressing my opinion while acknowledging that others may have a different view point. Whatever warmth I once had for Apple has long since been eroded by their shenanigans and as I learned more about Steve Jobs the person. Apple’s arrogance will be its downfall. No company remains on top for ever. Perhaps RemixOS might be the next OS that will get us excited once matured. www.jide.com/remixos-for-pcIt has been my experience, over several years, that most people who love Windows have never really used another OS. Windows is all they know and since all PCs come with Windows loaded on them very few have ventured to install another OS on their PCs. It takes some getting used to a new paradigm and that’s true for a new OS too. One needs to take the time to learn the new environment and to understand the nuances of a new OS. Only then can a comparison be made. As a developer for a number of years, in addition to Windows and Mac OS X, I have had the opportunity to work with several operating systems including Amiga, various flavors of UNIX (HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, SGI, IBM AIX and others), QNX, Linux, Minix and even BeOS. Of all of these operating systems the best one by far has been my experience with BeOS. Unfortunately, both Microsoft and Apple erected insurmountable barriers in their path and did not allow BeOS to flourish. Sadly, it is no longer being developed. We had an active community of developers who kept working on new software for BeOS even after the company announced that it was closing the project down. But it never found the traction that it deserved and died an unfortunate death. Here’s a short overview of BeOS if you're interested: birdhouse.org/beos/byte/29-10000ft/ |
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