Winter Trade in Program!

[Hair Nick]

Treat yourself, and upgrade your gear for the holidays! We’re announcing our Winter Trade-in Values, and this year, your trade-ins can be applied to sale prices!

Trade in and trade up! Do you want to upgrade your Emotiva gear? We’ve got great news! If you are the original product owner of one of the products listed below, you are eligible for a trade-in. If you are a U.S. customer (contiguous 48), we'll pay for the shipping to pick your old unit up. Best of all, we are accepting out of warranty products in any condition.

The trade in value is applied to a new order of equal or greater value. You must be the trade in product’s original owner to participate.

Canadian customers: You can ship your trade-in units to our Canadian warehouse! You do not need to send the item you are trading in back to our USA facility. Contact us for more details.

The trade in prices listed below are only valid until January 13. 2017. This exclusive trade in opportunity will not be published anywhere on our website. We’re only promoting it as an exclusive deal to our email subscribers and Emotiva Lounge members.

If you would like to trade in and upgrade your Emotiva gear, please call 615-790-6754.

*Some exclusions may apply.

[stiehl11]

I'm looking for a UPA-2; so, if anyone looking at the list would like more for their unit, send me a PM.

[mdenari]

Trade in values are pretty low I must say.

[dmraupp]

What a joke,why even bother to offer trade ins when you Lowball this bad?

[Jim]

The XPR-5 sold for $1800 and the trade-in is $440?

Interesting.

[monkumonku]

Those trade in values do look low but:

No one is forcing you to accept them.

The amount applies regardless of what condition the equipment is in.

Emo pays for the shipping.

What exactly do you expect them to do with some of that stuff? It's not like everything can be resold easily.

So quit complaining and be THANKFUL they even have a buyback program to begin with, where they'll even buy your turkeys.

[teaman]

I agree Monku, just seems the bottom has dropped out of the trade in market, that's all. I posted in the Blurt it out that anyone thinking of trading in gear should post it in the Emporium first. It may work out better for both the seller and the buyer. Count me in!

Tim

[stiehl11]

Nov 23, 2016 18:02:43 GMT -5 dmraupp said:

What a joke,why even bother to offer trade ins when you Lowball this bad?

From what I gathered when I called this afternoon is that they pay for shipping, they put it on the bench to make sure everything is working within specifications (making repairs as needed), then they may resell it after the holidays. So, they have to buy it at a low enough price so that that after they pay their staff to receive it, inventory it, test it, repair/rework/certify it, and warehouse it, they can then sell it at a price that will at least cover that expense. Some people may think they're ancient Emotiva gear should be sold at Sotheby's or that it has actually appreciated (somehow) in value. The reality is that not many (sane) people are going to give MSRP for gear that's old and out of warranty. Some people will like that they don't have to list it on Audiogon or Ebay, eat their fees, and then have to worry about dealing with the buyer if anything should go wrong (that's one reason I haven't sold my UMC-1 as I don't want to deal with some dingbat that can't work a toaster say they can't get it to work). Yes, they'll take a hit on what they make selling it back to Emotiva, but they'll appreciate not having to deal with "the public".

Quite honestly, after typing that last bit out, I may actually take them up on the offer and give them my UMC-1 for $120 off a new A-300 (being that every offer I've received for a UPA-2 is within 10% of what they sold new for 7 years ago.

[vcautokid]

Okay, I hear you. Lets put this in perspective. Your Gear, Your Choice, and always know you don't have to trade if you don't want too. I believe in choice, and options. Our hobby is about that. It maybe a great move for some. Some might want to build on an already great system. Some may want to start over. Emotiva wants you to have options.

I think it is always cool to have options. If they make sense to you. There they are.

[beardedalbatross]

You guys have to remember they had slightly higher trade in offers before the sale. They're accepting trades when a lot of their inventory is 15% off. I will agree that it's a bit of a low ball.

[rbk123]

The XPA-100 sellers in the Emporium weren't happy when they couldn't get $250 + shipping; let's hope they don't see this thread...

[Soup]

If it's not for you.....move along

Peace!

[Jim]

Nov 23, 2016 19:13:43 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

What exactly do you expect them to do with some of that stuff? It's not like everything can be resold easily.

They sell it all on eBay at a heavy discount and we then get lots of cheaper Emotiva gear!

(And then the other sellers and Emporium stage a revolt because the used market prices just fell through the floor).

LOL. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[ehmokey]

I'd have thought the gear would hold just a little better value than this. I am not planning to return or exchange my XPA1-L's. They are cozy just were they are. I am glad I did not pay full price when I purchased them.

[spom409]

Nov 23, 2016 20:55:26 GMT -5 beardedalbatross said:

You guys have to remember they had slightly higher trade in offers before the sale. They're accepting trades when a lot of their inventory is 15% off. I will agree that it's a bit of a low ball.

Yes, good point. It is but in certain situations it does make sense.
For example, prior to the sale only a few weeks ago, the UMC-1 was 150.00 trade in. With the sale, it's 120.00.
So instead of getting more for your trade in, the delta for the most part is moved to the discount for the new gear.

As many posters have pointed out, depending on the gear and the market, this may or may not be a good deal but it does makes things easy.


Happy Thanksgiving!

[creimes]

Lower prices I must say, maybe this a good deal for someone that has some gear that isn't in the best shape, sort of like trading in a car right, you usually can get way more selling it privately, you just need to go through the hassle of doing so.


Chad

[stiehl11]

Nov 24, 2016 8:55:41 GMT -5 ehmokey said:

I'd have thought the gear would hold just a little better value than this. I am not planning to return or exchange my XPA1-L's. They are cozy just were they are. I am glad I did not pay full price when I purchased them.

That's just it: not many people paid MSRP for their Emotiva gear. They likely bought it on sale, a 40% off card, or had Emo-bucks to put toward the purchase. So, for example, back in the day when a UPA-2 went for $299-$349 most people bought it for less (with free shipping, I might add). When I bought my UPA-2 1 year used in 2012 I paid $220 shipped to my door. How much should I expect for that amp now, 4 years on (5 total years old)? What should be the trade in price for a XMC-1 when a lot of people paid $1,200 for their unit? Also, unlike me who is looking for a UPA-2 to actually use, they're not going to keep these units. Emotiva will likely resell these units at a later time.

I really don't understand the difficulty some people are having with this concept!?! You don't trade in your car to a dealership and expect to get retail price on your trade (much less MSRP). I would seriously be laughed off the dealership lot if I took a 5 year old car and ask for 90% of MSRP for my trade; even if it was in like-new condition (and low miles). I could very well find that special Huckleberry who would give me full retail much less 90% MSRP. But, if someone was going to pay retail for used gear/car, wouldn't you rather buy Certified Pre-Owned rather than caveat emptor?

[Jim]

Nov 24, 2016 8:55:41 GMT -5 ehmokey said:

I'd have thought the gear would hold just a little better value than this. I am not planning to return or exchange my XPA1-L's. They are cozy just were they are. I am glad I did not pay full price when I purchased them.

I've seen some Emotiva amps sell on eBay for the original price years later - and occasionally even more.

Processors and many other components have variable value -- but many amps seem to hold their value very well. (The last 2 amps I purchased and really hunted for low prices - were within 20% of the new price)

I'm sure the Trade-In is great for some people ---- but I wouldn't even try to correlate it to the private seller used markets pricing.

On another note - dealer trades for cars are usually not THAT far off from a private sale. Nobody expects MSRP. What you're hoping for is a value that's similar to what youd make selling it privately (aka what the car is really worth). KBB gives clear prices for trade in vs private sale.

But comparing car dealing to this - is really apples to oranges. It's completely different. Unless you have 100,000 mi on your amps and have done regular fluid changes? :/)

I'm sure there are some people that might like the program -it sounds painless. So if they get a few bucks off old gear - and Emotiva makes another sale - it's a win win. If the prices aren't appealing, nothing is lost.

Vince put it well "I think it is always cool to have options. If they make sense to you. There they are."

[stiehl11]

Nov 24, 2016 11:59:25 GMT -5 Jim said:

Nov 24, 2016 8:55:41 GMT -5 ehmokey said:

I'd have thought the gear would hold just a little better value than this. I am not planning to return or exchange my XPA1-L's. They are cozy just were they are. I am glad I did not pay full price when I purchased them.

I've seen some Emotiva amps sell on eBay for the original price years later - and occasionally even more.

Processors and many other components have variable value -- but many amps seem to hold their value very well. (The last 2 amps I purchased and really hunted for low prices - were within 20% of the new price)

I'm sure the Trade-In is great for some people ---- but I wouldn't even try to correlate it to the private seller used markets pricing.

On another note - dealer trades for cars are usually not THAT far off from a private sale. Nobody expects MSRP. What you're hoping for is a value that's similar to what youd make selling it privately (aka what the car is really worth). KBB gives clear prices for trade in vs private sale.

But comparing car dealing to this - is really apples to oranges. It's completely different. Unless you have 100,000 mi on your amps and have done regular fluid changes? :/)

I'm sure there are some people that might like the program -it sounds painless. So if they get a few bucks off old gear - and Emotiva makes another sale - it's a win win. If the prices aren't appealing, nothing is lost.

I've been amazed at what Emotiva gear sells for on Ebay; my XDA-1 sold for over $200 (I paid $150 for it off the Lounge back in the day) after fees. I took that money and bought a brand new XDA-2 for $275. I guess it's true what they say about fools and money. Trust me, when my ERC-1 goes up for sale, Ebay will likely be the first place it goes.

As for my used amps, they were 1-year used or less and between 25% to 30% off retail shipped to my door. The only Emotiva amps I've seen sell anywhere near their original prices have been the older MPS-1 style card/cage amps. And, I expect those to go down as the ones I'm seeing for sale now usually have one or more card(s) going bad. And that's the thing with amps; they don't last forever. Eventually, I'm going to have to replace my amps. And if I can get $800+$50 for shipping for my XPA-5 (as one on Ebay that's been there forever and not selling) I would be over the moon (which is more than what I paid for mine brand new)! I've also been watching a XPA-200 for months that's being offered for $500+$40 for shipping. Eventually, there'll be a Huckleberry for both those amps. It won't be me. And, for as long as I've been watching them, it won't be soon either.

Also, I sold cars way back in the day (for a few months). If you needed full retail for your car I could get it for you. But, then I couldn't give you as much off the sticker. Trucks and SUVs had the most amount of play, whereas economy cars did not. I could give you full retail (or more) for your trade in if you were buying a Ford F-150. But, if you were trading in the same vehicle for a Festiva or base Escort you would be sorely disappointed with what I could give you. Of course, no one would expect MSRP for a used car... and that's my point; why would anyone expect MSRP for a used amp?

But, I get what you're saying. So, maybe this would be a better analogy; think of taking your amp to a pawn shop.

[garbulky]

Well for the used market, a used amp is worth what it's worth. And in this case a UPA-2 is not worth $50 So let's be realistic here. It's not that there are fools paying way more for used gear. Emotiva gear are solid deals that other than them and maybe one or two companies, there aren't any others in the game that can offer those units at those prices. So if you want that quality and you go used, you're going to have to pay what it's worth. And it's not $50 for a UPA-2. It's not a $100 for a UPA-2!

But Emotiva can of course dictate what they are willing to pay. We can either take it or leave it. It just doesn't make the worth of Emotiva gear that low. Not even close. I don't think this made the worth go down at all. The only way the worth goes down is when they resell on ebay but they don't really sell all that much on ebay to make that much of a difference.