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Post by mgbpuff on Apr 18, 2018 10:30:44 GMT -5
You could use Zone2 to the headphone amp or get Y connector RCAs for L and R preouts (just turn 5 channel amp off in this case). I'm already using z2 for speakers on the other side of the room, but a splitter may work. I worry about signal loss though so will need to research. But I guess the basis for you advice is that the emo hp amp that's built in is either inferior or under powered. Is that right? Signal loss is no problem. I suggested the XPS-1 which has no hp amp. I also suggested you buy a separate hp amp of your choice. |
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Post by btnvideos on Apr 18, 2018 10:38:43 GMT -5
I'm already using z2 for speakers on the other side of the room, but a splitter may work. I worry about signal loss though so will need to research. But I guess the basis for you advice is that the emo hp amp that's built in is either inferior or under powered. Is that right? Signal loss is no problem. I suggested the XPS-1 which has no hp amp. I also suggested you buy a separate hp amp of your choice. Understood but I'm asking why is that your advice, vs getting the TA which has both... plus an actual amp. Why get two separate pieces for, likely, more money if the TA has quality hp and mm phono. Unless you're saying they are inferior to the stand alone. That's the opinion in trying to get to.. and why one thinks that. Thanks. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 18, 2018 10:49:04 GMT -5
4 posts and we’re all rabble! WOW! How to make friends and Influence people just jumps to mind! 😆 I FOUND THAT THE tA-100 has the same phono stage as the XPS-1 IMHO Your cans are rather difficult to drive from what I understand, so most units would have a herd time. A dedicated Headphone amp is usually the best route. I never cared much for daisy chaining preamps. YMMV Welcome to the nuthouse, now you’re one too! 😋 I mean rabble in the nicest possible way... like Jefferson did when speaking of the House of Reps. Thanks for the feedback. Regarding daisy chain the pre amps, is there a risk or degradation of quality you would expect from that? Like I said earlier, I plan on splitting this whole system apart for dedicated 2 channel in the next year, so I'm trying to be strategic. For now, I need my speakers for 2 channel and home theater, leading to the daisy. I have a dedicated 2 channel and HT using the same speakers. I prefer to use a switch vs daisy chain. Degradation, yes I think so but im not an engineer. It can’t be good IMHO! Nothing fancy but its safe and effective. Attachment Deleted Attachment Deleted |
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Post by mgbpuff on Apr 18, 2018 12:03:02 GMT -5
Signal loss is no problem. I suggested the XPS-1 which has no hp amp. I also suggested you buy a separate hp amp of your choice. Understood but I'm asking why is that your advice, vs getting the TA which has both... plus an actual amp. Why get two separate pieces for, likely, more money if the TA has quality hp and mm phono. Unless you're saying they are inferior to the stand alone. That's the opinion in trying to get to.. and why one thinks that. Thanks. Nothing that Emotiva makes is inferior. I'm sure the TA hp output will probably be more than adequate for your headset. If you are happy with cascading preamp signals and living with two volume adjustments, and letting the amplifier output of the TA set unconnected and unused, go for it. There is nothing wrong with doing that, in fact I have a Peachtree Nova integrated DAC/Preamp/Amp that I am using as a DAC/Preamp only. I just thought you were looking for alternatives. My bad! |
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Post by btnvideos on Apr 18, 2018 13:02:08 GMT -5
Understood but I'm asking why is that your advice, vs getting the TA which has both... plus an actual amp. Why get two separate pieces for, likely, more money if the TA has quality hp and mm phono. Unless you're saying they are inferior to the stand alone. That's the opinion in trying to get to.. and why one thinks that. Thanks. Nothing that Emotiva makes is inferior. I'm sure the TA hp output will probably be more than adequate for your headset. If you are happy with cascading preamp signals and living with two volume adjustments, and letting the amplifier output of the TA set unconnected and unused, go for it. There is nothing wrong with doing that, in fact I have a Peachtree Nova integrated DAC/Preamp/Amp that I am using as a DAC/Preamp only. I just thought you were looking for alternatives. My bad! No apology necessary. I would like the TA to be the right solution for my needs. Thanks to both you and Nick for the feedback. I'm going to go TA and try to find a 1x2 switch as well. I'll see whether the switch or daisy creates and audible loss of fidelity. Matt |
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Post by btnvideos on Apr 22, 2018 10:34:28 GMT -5
I mean rabble in the nicest possible way... like Jefferson did when speaking of the House of Reps. Thanks for the feedback. Regarding daisy chain the pre amps, is there a risk or degradation of quality you would expect from that? Like I said earlier, I plan on splitting this whole system apart for dedicated 2 channel in the next year, so I'm trying to be strategic. For now, I need my speakers for 2 channel and home theater, leading to the daisy. I have a dedicated 2 channel and HT using the same speakers. I prefer to use a switch vs daisy chain. Degradation, yes I think so but im not an engineer. It can’t be good IMHO! Nothing fancy but its safe and effective. Well the first test was a bust. Daisy chaining is not an ideal solution. I actually talked to Emo support before I did it and they thought it would sound fine, but I would disagree. The signal was degraded and I think the both amps would have to be pushed too hard to get to a reference volume (or even close). I had the emo at 65 (out of 80) and the Yamaha (driving an Outlaw 5000, which is no slouch) at -9 and the volume was just moderate. That's far too much effort for too little performance. When I hooked the speakers directly to the Emo, the TA was very impressive. Even in the first hour, the music was very smooth, clear and you could tell the amp wasn't breaking a sweat playing an original 1060 version of Steely Dan Aja, which has a number of layers and instruments to the recording. The difference between going Emo to Yamaha vs Emo straight to speakers (or even the headphones) was night and day. Wasn't even close. I didn't have the equipment to test your type of setup (I'd need RCA selectors to sit in front of the Outlaw) but I still may. Instead I got next day Amazon on the XPS-1 phono preamp, which replicates my original setup. I hooked that up last night and played DMB Crash (analog recording, very well done, lots of complicated instruments as well) and it sounded great running straight to the Yamaha/Outlaw. Also played Houses of the Holy and the new Springsteen RSD that just came out yesterday. It definitely appears to be smoother and more detailed than the Cambridge Azur that previously sat in that spot. Anyway, moral is that the TA is really a nice integrated...just don't mess it up with a bunch of complications. I'm definitely keeping the XPS phono though. The question now is whether just to hang on to the TA (because you can't own too many extra pieces of equipment) or return it. I have a few weeks to decide. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 22, 2018 10:50:33 GMT -5
I truly feel that the TA-100 has a XPS-1 incorporated into if. Glad your enjoying your system the way you should be now.
Great music you’re listening to!
Too much gear?
Bahahahaha! 😁
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Post by btnvideos on Apr 22, 2018 11:39:35 GMT -5
I truly feel that the TA-100 has a XPS-1 incorporated into if. Glad your enjoying your system the way you should be now. Great music you’re listening to! Too much gear? Bahahahaha! 😁That's basically what support said, particularly if you are using MM cartridge (I have orto blue so MM). I think where the XPS may give some extra benefit is if you are using MC and then you can do some adjustments. I don't see moving to MC anytime in the future, but who knows. If I do, then I guess I'll have a pre that offers just a sliver of extra flexibility compared to a built in phono pre. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 22, 2018 11:51:57 GMT -5
I truly feel that the TA-100 has a XPS-1 incorporated into if. Glad your enjoying your system the way you should be now. Great music you’re listening to! Too much gear? Bahahahaha! 😁That's basically what support said, particularly if you are using MM cartridge (I have orto blue so MM). I think where the XPS may give some extra benefit is if you are using MC and then you can do some adjustments. I don't see moving to MC anytime in the future, but who knows. If I do, then I guess I'll have a pre that offers just a sliver of extra flexibility compared to a built in phono pre. Have fun brotha! 😁🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 |
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Post by anthony24 on Nov 28, 2018 6:27:38 GMT -5
Has anyone paired the TA-100 with Airmotiv T1 towers ? I have a 2 channel system with T1 towers in a small den, 14x14.
My main music source at the moment is an Apple TV, which will run hdmi to my tv and optical into the TA-100.
Wanting to know if it’ll be an upgrade over my entry level Denon avr 510bt (rated at 6ohms, the T1 towers are 4 ohms).
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