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Post by jackpine on Mar 27, 2017 9:33:03 GMT -5
I've experimented heavily with distance from the back wall with my Maggies, and ~3.5' is clearly best. Closer tends to get boomy and further I lose imaging. I measured the placements and wrote them down so when my wife inevitably moves the speakers I can put them back without having to experiment again. Mark Maggies are fun because they're so easy to move and you can really hear the difference easily. My brothers sounded really good pulled out about that far. Ended up having to set up a dedicated room though. They dominated the family room pulled out that far. |
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Post by Axis on Mar 27, 2017 10:16:25 GMT -5
My speakers are 5 feet from the wall in a 20 x 30 room. This should say it all.  |
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Post by jeffair10 on Apr 12, 2017 17:12:07 GMT -5
Our living room is small, 12'X 12'with a couch. Therefore my old school Yamaha NS-A 1236's like to be against the wall. Polk M series speakers hang on the wall behind the couch. And Velodyne VRP-10 sub round out the sound. It's dated, but tells the truth. My Pioneer VSX-816 does not hold a candle to the UMC-1/Adcom combo I was using.
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Post by bluemeanies on Apr 12, 2017 17:36:58 GMT -5
Everything depends upon your room.
In my case my B&W803diamonds are 4'5" from the back wall however they are only 1" from the side walls. Nothing I can do about it.
My room is 25' long, at the screen 8' and to the back wall 10'5".
The ports are unplugged.
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 12, 2017 21:35:44 GMT -5
And then there's plan B... Your speakers matter less - your room matters less - positioning matters not much at all. Re-voicing of the speakers is simple - power demands are (usually) less. And what is this palliative? True electronic room correction (not just "tame the peaks" equalization). Does the technology live up to its promise? If you haven't heard it, you don't get to comment (you know nothing, John Snow...). I haven't heard it, but I want to & plan to soon. |
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Post by jefft51 on Apr 13, 2017 12:07:59 GMT -5
Some while ago (in another thread far far away....) someone posted a link to instructions ( a video of a class?) on how to position your speakers to get a good soundstage. It was something like, start with both speakers against the wall, then move one out a bit at a time, then do the other speaker while listening to a singer and imagining where the singers mouth would be.
Does anyone have that link? I can't find it.
Jeff
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Post by jmilton on Apr 13, 2017 13:17:51 GMT -5
Well, there is this odd ball:
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Post by novisnick on Apr 13, 2017 13:26:56 GMT -5
Well, there is this odd ball:
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Post by novisnick on Apr 13, 2017 13:41:48 GMT -5
I currently have my speakers 55" from the wall and it really adds to the depth and imaging. I have moved these speakers more times than I can count.
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Post by pedrocols on Apr 13, 2017 14:11:21 GMT -5
I currently have my speakers 55" from the wall and it really adds to the depth and imaging. I have moved these speakers more times than I can count.
View AttachmentI have moved them twice so far...😎 |
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Post by jefft51 on Apr 13, 2017 14:46:18 GMT -5
um, not what I was thinking of He should have just said...get headphones. Well, there is this odd ball: |
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Post by hjstack on Apr 13, 2017 17:20:37 GMT -5
Some while ago (in another thread far far away....) someone posted a link to instructions ( a video of a class?) on how to position your speakers to get a good soundstage. It was something like, start with both speakers against the wall, then move one out a bit at a time, then do the other speaker while listening to a singer and imagining where the singers mouth would be. Does anyone have that link? I can't find it. Jeff |
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Post by bluemeanies on Apr 13, 2017 19:01:55 GMT -5
Well in IMHO speaker placement is imperative!
There are many aspects in 2channel listening besides equipment...or the quality of equipment that you own or intend to purchase.
The room itself is important. A perfectly sq room is offensive in 2 channel, not to mention acoustics, whether it be drapes on a wall or expensive absorbers and diffusers.
In my application my B&W"s are modestly toed in to the listeners ears or sweet spot.
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They actually look as if they are aimed directly to the back wall...however there position gives me a pseudo three dimensional sound.
People swear I have the center channel on while playing a disc or listening to TIDAL...which is 95% of the time.
My acoustics are not perfect but I am getting there.
Another investment into the perfect music nirvana that is like looking for the golden fleece.
That said I am happy with what I am listening to but like must of us I am an exploreer wanting what I think will be better.
MO
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Post by miata57 on Apr 14, 2017 9:29:55 GMT -5
I too have tried many different speaker locations. My T1s, for my particular room, 3 feet from the rear wall and 2.5 feet from the side walls provide me the best overall sound. With my MMG's it was quite different as I had them about 4.5 feet from the rear walls and 3 feet from the side walls.
For the T1's I feel I get just a little more low end when placed slightly closer to the rear walls without them being boomy in any way. I can't wait to hear the T2's, wondering what their sound will be like.
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Post by jefft51 on Apr 14, 2017 15:06:05 GMT -5
That's the one I was looking for! Thanks hjstack. Jeff Some while ago (in another thread far far away....) someone posted a link to instructions ( a video of a class?) on how to position your speakers to get a good soundstage. It was something like, start with both speakers against the wall, then move one out a bit at a time, then do the other speaker while listening to a singer and imagining where the singers mouth would be. Does anyone have that link? I can't find it. Jeff |
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Post by leonski on Apr 27, 2017 0:42:30 GMT -5
And then there's plan B... Your speakers matter less - your room matters less - positioning matters not much at all. Re-voicing of the speakers is simple - power demands are (usually) less. And what is this palliative? True electronic room correction (not just "tame the peaks" equalization). Does the technology live up to its promise? If you haven't heard it, you don't get to comment (you know nothing, John Snow...). I haven't heard it, but I want to & plan to soon. Room correction can provide such 'services' for a single seat or some benefit for more seats. The tradeoff? If you tune out a bass peak at your listening position you are golden. Too bad the OTHER place in the room that had fine bass NOW has a suckout at that frequency. I dont' know how you can avoid that. Every peak or null adjusted where you listen, is the opposite adjustment somewhere else in the room. It's still true that a good stereo in a Great room beats a great stereo in a mediocre room. |
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Post by leonski on Apr 27, 2017 11:48:54 GMT -5
I'd like to add that PANEL speaker, which I'm very familiar with, really LOVE to be away from the front wall. They must, be, IMO, since the 2 sides of the speaker are mostly symmetrical.
If you can seperate the back wave (to the front wall) from the direct wave by maybe 10ms or more (maybe 10 feet Round Trip, the image will be improved as the ear/brain can now tell 'em apart.
Rory mentions time in his post and that is key. Reducing refleced energy is a good idea.
One measure of this, IIRC, the measure called RT60. This is how long a sound 'burst' takes to decay 60db in-room. In an anachoic space, it might be nearly Instantly, while in an echo chamber, it may take a second or more to decay.
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