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Post by garbulky on Apr 18, 2017 11:36:53 GMT -5
Oh horror. I'm building a new PC.
It looks like I can't seem to find a motherboard with a @#$@# PCI slot. All of them come with a PCI express slot instead.
This means ditching my Asus Xonar Essence ST PCI card.
Now I need a PCI-express card which does a good job with SPDIF. I don't care about the DAC section but hopefully it will do SPDIF (RCA) well. Please help!! Preferrably something cheap. So no professional $800 cards with 32 channel break out cables please!
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Post by stiehl11 on Apr 18, 2017 12:06:06 GMT -5
Stupid question: if what you have is working, why replace it? Or, is this a preemptive question for when your processor/PCI bus goes out?
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Post by kewlmunky on Apr 18, 2017 12:20:46 GMT -5
Stupid question: if what you have is working, why replace it? Or, is this a preemptive question for when your processor/PCI bus goes out? Sounds to me like OP is planning a new computer build. |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 18, 2017 12:22:43 GMT -5
Stupid question: if what you have is working, why replace it? Or, is this a preemptive question for when your processor/PCI bus goes out? It's not working. Sorry should have mentioned that. Time for a replacement! |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Apr 18, 2017 12:33:30 GMT -5
Couldn't you just use a USB to S/PDIF converter? PCI (PCI-32, PCI-66, PCI-X) has been dead for a long time. Everything is PCI-Express these days. And PCI-E 3.0 at that.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 18, 2017 12:39:59 GMT -5
Couldn't you just use a USB to S/PDIF converter? PCI (PCI-32, PCI-66, PCI-X) has been dead for a long time. Everything is PCI-Express these days. And PCI-E 3.0 at that. Casey Trying to avoid going the USB route much as I can! BTW will PCI express 3 work with lower PCI express numbers? |
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Post by saru on Apr 18, 2017 12:46:29 GMT -5
Couldn't you just use a USB to S/PDIF converter? PCI (PCI-32, PCI-66, PCI-X) has been dead for a long time. Everything is PCI-Express these days. And PCI-E 3.0 at that. Casey Trying to avoid going the USB route much as I can! BTW will PCI express 3 work with lower PCI express numbers? Yes. If the mobo slot is pci express 3, it should be backward compatible. |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Apr 18, 2017 12:54:09 GMT -5
Yes, you can use a PCI-E 3.0 card with a PCI-E 2.0 Slot and Vice Versa. PCI-E is a Point-to-Point link and not a Bus as with earlier PCI Technologies. About the only things which are common between the original PCI and what we use today is the concept of PCI Configuration Space (truly a revolutionary idea compared to what individual vendors used to do), the ideas of Bus and I/O Address Space Enumeration, and the idea of the fundamental Transaction Layer Packet (TLP) which carries Requests and Responses between the Root Complex "Upstream" and the individual Devices "Downstream".
When you plug a PCI-E 3.0 card into a PCI-E 2.0 Slot, what's really happening is that Slot is being backed by an Upstream PCI-E Bridge which supports PCI-E 2.0. The Card and the Bridge will negotiate the Link and determine what common operating parameters they can use.
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Post by stiehl11 on Apr 18, 2017 13:58:33 GMT -5
Stupid question: if what you have is working, why replace it? Or, is this a preemptive question for when your processor/PCI bus goes out? It's not working. Sorry should have mentioned that. Time for a replacement! What is not working; the card, the board, the processor? I've got a 20 year old computer that still works (had to replace the hard drive once). It's too old to run anything current. But I could switch it on and it will run what's on it. |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 18, 2017 14:08:22 GMT -5
It's not working. Sorry should have mentioned that. Time for a replacement! What is not working; the card, the board, the processor? I've got a 20 year old computer that still works (had to replace the hard drive once). It's too old to run anything current. But I could switch it on and it will run what's on it. I usually build my own stuff and trouble shoot my own gear. I could probably figure out what's causing it to hang - likely the hard drive. But it's time to replace this old machine with something zippier. Time to move on, I guess. |
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Post by brubacca on Apr 18, 2017 14:12:17 GMT -5
I built a small music server with a ESI Juli@ XTE card. PCI Express. That was a couple of years ago. It had analog in/ out and Coax/Optical in/out. Not sure if they still make them.
It worked fine in Linux and was a bit quirky in Windows although I was using a very low spec atom. I'm not sure it had enough HP for the card under windows.
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Post by stiehl11 on Apr 18, 2017 14:57:14 GMT -5
What is not working; the card, the board, the processor? I've got a 20 year old computer that still works (had to replace the hard drive once). It's too old to run anything current. But I could switch it on and it will run what's on it. I usually build my own stuff and trouble shoot my own gear. I could probably figure out what's causing it to hang - likely the hard drive. But it's time to replace this old machine with something zippier. Time to move on, I guess. Ok, so the computer is not broke, just the hard drive is wearing out. How much processing power do you need to play music files? If the current computer is working for you, and it's not broke, and you can't find the level of parts you want/need (but currently are on your perfectly working, sans HDD/SSD, rig at the moment), I'd just replace the HDD/SSD and be done with it. If you want a new computer, by all means build one. But you're hardly caught out without a new card. There's no rule against having more than one computer. I've kept several around simply because a peripheral worked better or only on one. Rather than try to build one that was backward compatible, I just built one for my (new) needs and let the old one(s) do their things. Case in point: built a real nice server for my home back in 2003 to run a couple of terminals off of as well as photo and video editing. The processing power was extreme and with the RAID array on it throughput was phenomenal. It was the hottest rig of all my friends... except it didn't like my very nice photo printer. So, I had an old computer with an operating system that the printer driver liked (also had a SCSI card to a great hi-rez scanner that wouldn't work on the motherboard) and used it as a print server rather than try and force my "new hotness" to work with a periphery that it wasn't made to work with.  |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 18, 2017 15:47:47 GMT -5
I usually build my own stuff and trouble shoot my own gear. I could probably figure out what's causing it to hang - likely the hard drive. But it's time to replace this old machine with something zippier. Time to move on, I guess. Ok, so the computer is not broke, just the hard drive is wearing out. How much processing power do you need to play music files? If the current computer is working for you, and it's not broke, and you can't find the level of parts you want/need (but currently are on your perfectly working, sans HDD/SSD, rig at the moment), I'd just replace the HDD/SSD and be done with it. If you want a new computer, by all means build one. But you're hardly caught out without a new card. There's no rule against having more than one computer. I've kept several around simply because a peripheral worked better or only on one. Rather than try to build one that was backward compatible, I just built one for my (new) needs and let the old one(s) do their things. Case in point: built a real nice server for my home back in 2003 to run a couple of terminals off of as well as photo and video editing. The processing power was extreme and with the RAID array on it throughput was phenomenal. It was the hottest rig of all my friends... except it didn't like my very nice photo printer. So, I had an old computer with an operating system that the printer driver liked (also had a SCSI card to a great hi-rez scanner that wouldn't work on the motherboard) and used it as a print server rather than try and force my "new hotness" to work with a periphery that it wasn't made to work with. Nah. I've tried that route before. I only need one desktop. This seems promising www.amazon.com/ASUS-STRIX-SOAR-Sound-Card/dp/B019H3BI4W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492548441&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+strix+soar |
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Post by millst on Apr 18, 2017 23:08:20 GMT -5
If you don't need hi-res (maxes out at 96/16): www.diamondmm.com/xs71-diamond-xtremesound-pci-sound-card.htmlThe 192/24 and optical on the Asus is nice, however. OTH, the card is probably overkill, unless you plan to use the DAC portion for something. You could go with a lower model like the Xonar DSX. Creative also has Sound Blaster Audigy RX. -tm |
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Post by RichGuy on Apr 19, 2017 1:56:54 GMT -5
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