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XLR or RCA
Jul 16, 2017 18:09:23 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 16, 2017 18:09:23 GMT -5
[quote author=" RichGuy" "Sorry again you are completely wrong, this is a very current problem and one that is far more prevalent now than ever before it really didn't even exist in the 60's." You don't read rich guy.... I said I..... HAVE to go back to 1963 nearly 55 years to have had any problems of my own regarding RCA connections or connectors. I suspect there are others here who would question your claims that many current rca connections/connectors are more problematic than ever, now, than in the past. Bill |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 16, 2017 18:19:01 GMT -5
Sorry again you are completely wrong, this is a very current problem and one that is far more prevalent now than ever before it really didn't even exist in the 60's. Most RCA inputs on most equipment is of the cheaper type (not the nice machined screw together type as most of on the XMC-1's RCA inputs) While many RCA cable connectors are a machined style and can fit very tightly. When you remove these they can damage the equipment, this is often a problem with current RCA connections of many brands. Ever tried to unplug an XLR connection when they fail? Which, when you are handling hundreds per night, happens not as infrequently as some would think. They all do at some time, price/quality is no barrier. Makes adjusting RCA male plugs tension a breeze. Cheers Gary No and with any of the XLR's I use I don't think I ever will, I have had cables nearly impossible to get off though and thought I'd lose the input connector on the equipment it was on a few times. Of course in industrial use the problems will naturally become more common especially with any outside exposure. But I do doubt I will ever have that problem with any of my equipments XLR's and I wish I didn't have that problem with my RCA's but have had it many times. |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 16, 2017 18:32:19 GMT -5
[quote author=" RichGuy" "Sorry again you are completely wrong, this is a very current problem and one that is far more prevalent now than ever before it really didn't even exist in the 60's." You don't read rich guy.... I said I..... HAVE to go back to 1963 nearly 55 years to have had any problems of my own regarding RCA connections or connectors. I suspect there are others here who would question your claims that many current rca connections/connectors are more problematic than ever, now, than in the past. Bill In the past it would have been a different problem "corrosion" gold and other plating on nearly every connector has ended that problem. Now it's more modern cables design, some which have been designed to grip very tightly. I've experienced the problem more than I like and I've seen the horror stories of broken parts of others far too often. It's why many manufacturer's like Emotiva have moved to the better RCA's on much of their equipment but there are still far more of the cheaper RCA inputs out there than there are the good ones. BTW I can read fine but with all the conversations I've had with you, you really do need to learn how to use the quote feature in this forum. |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 16, 2017 20:57:25 GMT -5
My apology my answer to the original question XLR or RCA should have been neither. Anything beyond the connectors shown below is just plain heathens technology and shouldn't be used. Don't be tempted by Satin! Also be sure to use slotted screws and not those overkill devils Phillips head.   |
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Post by teaman on Jul 16, 2017 21:01:16 GMT -5
My apology my answer to the original question XLR or RCA should have been neither. Anything beyond the connectors shown below is just plain heathens technology and shouldn't be used. Don't be tempted by Satin! Also be sure to use slotted screws and not those overkill devils Phillips head. Awesome, my Gen 1 Heresies are safe! |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 17, 2017 6:45:46 GMT -5
A signal must have two connections to complete a circuit. RCA connectors combine one end of the signal with a ground connection. Ground current flow between components can be tricky since both grounded and ungrounded component signal topologies exist. If all the components are plugged into the same power receptacle, there is not likely to be a problem, but if plugged into a different power receptacle or some components through isolating power conditioners, there can be a problem due to differential ground voltages generated that may cause circulating ground currents. The best solution is to allot a separate conductor for ground connection between components as in balanced connectors and their corresponding 3 conductor cables. This results in ground circulating currents from being superimposed in the signal and because two identical wires carry the signal, common mode rejection reduces any external noise from also being superimposed on the signal. Thus balanced interconnection is superior by design. All that is being argued here is if balanced is warranted under all circumstances which is a ridiculous thing to argue about because there are infinitely variable permutations of equipment and site conditions.
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 17, 2017 7:41:20 GMT -5
[quote author=" RichGuy" "BTW I can read fine but with all the conversations I've had with you, you really do need to learn how to use the quote feature in this forum." Ahhh....its working great....like now. Bill |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 17, 2017 8:52:46 GMT -5
[quote author=" RichGuy " "BTW I can read fine but with all the conversations I've had with you, you really do need to learn how to use the quote feature in this forum." Ahhh....its working great....like now. Bill When you're using the forums quote feature it never appears as it is supposed to. The quote is normally contained in a shaded, line framed box with a time stamp of when the quote was made with the poster making the quote's comments below that box. However when you make quotes it never appears as it should, sometimes your comments are contained in the quote box and sometimes the quote box does not appear as it should with odd bits of the html quote tags showing. It seems to be user error from this end but maybe it's the browser you are using. I believe it is most often caused when the user writes in the wrong area of the quote tags. Anyway your forum quotes never appear as they should from my end. |
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Post by alucard on Jul 17, 2017 10:59:35 GMT -5
[quote author=" RichGuy " "BTW I can read fine but with all the conversations I've had with you, you really do need to learn how to use the quote feature in this forum." Ahhh....its working great....like now. Bill When you're using the forums quote feature it never appears as it is supposed to. The quote is normally contained in a shaded, line framed box with a time stamp of when the quote was made with the poster making the quote's comments below that box. However when you make quotes it never appears as it should, sometimes your comments are contained in the quote box and sometimes the quote box does not appear as it should with odd bits of the html quote tags showing. It seems to be user error from this end but maybe it's the browser you are using. I believe it is most often caused when the user writes in the wrong area of the quote tags. Anyway your forum quotes never appear as they should from my end. They are probably removing "[/quote]" from the end. I noticed this for quite a few replies with quotes. |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 17, 2017 19:50:25 GMT -5
Yes removing it eliminates the quote frame with a broken tag or placing your new text before it will put the posters message inside of the quote frame rather than below it, looking as though the posters remarks are part of the quote.
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Post by rbk123 on Jul 18, 2017 8:42:58 GMT -5
Don't be tempted by Satin!  |
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 18, 2017 9:20:05 GMT -5
Ha nice kitty!
Speaking of which....where is Fritz??
(There IS a cat 🐱 named "Fritz")
Fritz is our member that started this thread last week with but one post, and not heard from since. Wanted opinions (certainly he got a few). Regarding wires...
Ironically, never did he say WHICH connection RCA , or other he's using. Only that it's a (PITA) his abbreviation, to swap out so, what did you decide (fritz) ?
Still there?
Bill
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Post by teaman on Jul 18, 2017 10:13:38 GMT -5
Don't be tempted by Satin! Well, that's different. You quoted RichGuy but I showed up in the comments instead... |
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Post by rbk123 on Jul 18, 2017 10:17:24 GMT -5
Well, that's different. You quoted RichGuy but I showed up in the comments instead... Doh, looks like I've become a follower of 405x's school of quoting challenges.. Fixed.  |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 18, 2017 20:14:50 GMT -5
My apology my answer to the original question XLR or RCA should have been neither. Anything beyond the connectors shown below is just plain heathens technology and shouldn't be used. Don't be tempted by Satin! Also be sure to use slotted screws and not those overkill devils Phillips head. Very few people know this but if you listen to the Stones Sympathy for the Devil backwards and at half speed when the lyrics are " Hope you guess my name" you will clearly hear Mick Jagger say " Chuckienut is the devil" Most people who learn this will die soon after of horrible gruesome deaths unless of course they make a deal with the devil, Mick Jagger for instance made a deal and agreed that he and the Stones will play rock n roll until Mick is 100 years old. |
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Post by johnnyd70 on Jul 18, 2017 20:18:27 GMT -5
My apology my answer to the original question XLR or RCA should have been neither. Anything beyond the connectors shown below is just plain heathens technology and shouldn't be used. Don't be tempted by Satin! Also be sure to use slotted screws and not those overkill devils Phillips head. Very few people know this but if you listen to the Stones Sympathy for the Devil backwards and at half speed when the lyrics are " Hope you guess my name" you will clearly hear Mick Jagger say " Chuckienut is the devil" Most people who learn this will die soon after of horrible gruesome deaths unless of course they make a deal with the devil, Mick Jagger for instance made a deal and agreed that he and the Stones will play rock n roll until Mick is 100 years old. Actually the Stones have been dead for years. It's only when they have to do a show when they're unpacked from their respective boxes, reanimated, re packed and transported to the next venue. Sorry to disappoint. |
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Post by RichGuy on Jul 18, 2017 20:22:05 GMT -5
Very few people know this but if you listen to the Stones Sympathy for the Devil backwards and at half speed when the lyrics are " Hope you guess my name" you will clearly hear Mick Jagger say " Chuckienut is the devil" Most people who learn this will die soon after of horrible gruesome deaths unless of course they make a deal with the devil, Mick Jagger for instance made a deal and agreed that he and the Stones will play rock n roll until Mick is 100 years old. Actually the Stones have been dead for years. It's only when they have to do a show when they're unpacked from their respective boxes, reanimated, re packed and transported to the next venue. Sorry to disappoint. I never mentioned the Stones still being alive |
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Post by hemster on Jul 18, 2017 20:23:11 GMT -5
My apology my answer to the original question XLR or RCA should have been neither. Anything beyond the connectors shown below is just plain heathens technology and shouldn't be used. Don't be tempted by Satin! Also be sure to use slotted screws and not those overkill devils Phillips head. Very few people know this but if you listen to the Stones Sympathy for the Devil backwards and at half speed when the lyrics are " Hope you guess my name" you will clearly hear Mick Jagger say " Chuckienut is the devil" Most people who learn this will die soon after of horrible gruesome deaths unless of course they make a deal with the devil, Mick Jagger for instance made a deal and agreed that he and the Stones will play rock n roll until Mick is 100 years old. Wasn't that like... 50 years ago? |
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Post by cwt on Jul 19, 2017 4:38:05 GMT -5
Actually the Stones have been dead for years. little known fact ; "Get of off my cloud " is in fact autobiographical  Don't believe me ? the proof is in the line "Then in flies a guy who's all dressed up - like a Union Jack '" '' |
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Post by fritz on Jul 19, 2017 21:04:24 GMT -5
Ha nice kitty! Speaking of which....where is Fritz?? (There IS a cat 🐱 named "Fritz") Fritz is our member that started this thread last week with but one post, and not heard from since. Wanted opinions (certainly he got a few). Regarding wires... Ironically, never did he say WHICH connection RCA , or other he's using. Only that it's a (PITA) his abbreviation, to swap out so, what did you decide (fritz) ? Still there? Bill Yep still here Bill. I appreciate everyone's perspective on the topic. Im currently using the xlr connects. When I get the bug to start messing with it again ill try going back to the rca's and see what my ears tell me. So far its all sounding pretty damn good. Just gotta run Dirac again. FYI yep its (Fritz the cat) not many people remember that cartoon. |
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Don't believe me ? the proof is in the line "Then in flies a guy who's all dressed up - like a Union Jack '"
