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Post by bluemeanies on Jul 26, 2017 11:59:35 GMT -5
Simple question . What are people doing in regards to speaker isolation from the floor. This pertains specific to floor standings speakers. I have a cement floor with padding and carpet. I was using spikes which only dug down into the carpet reaching the cement floor. I decided to purchase 2sub dudes from Auralex and place my 803'd on them isolation them from the floor. No spikes. Lately I am being told that a cement floor is the best for a floor standing speakers. No spikes Opinions, please, Thanks
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Post by mountain on Jul 26, 2017 12:35:03 GMT -5
My BP-2000's sit directly on the carpet-carpet pad-concrete floor. No problems.
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 26, 2017 16:01:45 GMT -5
My Allison IC 20s.....also designed to go right to the floor. Have wall to wall carpet. Good to have an area rug in front of some systems if the floor is hard or bare.
Bill
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Post by simpleman68 on Jul 26, 2017 16:24:29 GMT -5
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Post by monkumonku on Jul 26, 2017 16:32:54 GMT -5
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Post by geebo on Jul 26, 2017 17:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by adaboy on Jul 26, 2017 17:13:51 GMT -5
Simple question . What are people doing in regards to speaker isolation from the floor. This pertains specific to floor standings speakers. I have a cement floor with padding and carpet. I was using spikes which only dug down into the carpet reaching the cement floor. I decided to purchase 2sub dudes from Auralex and place my 803'd on them isolation them from the floor. No spikes. Lately I am being told that a cement floor is the best for a floor standing speakers. No spikes Opinions, please, Thanks If you are on concrete, there is no need to decouple your speakers from the floor. If you had hardwood floors with no concrete below meaning a wood or other similar material then yes it makes a lot of sense to do this.
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Post by DYohn on Jul 26, 2017 17:42:59 GMT -5
Roy Allison was a genius, a giant of loudspeaker design. Cherish those speakers!
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Post by DYohn on Jul 26, 2017 17:45:20 GMT -5
Oh, the question, sorry. Do whatever sounds best to you, there is no right and wrong. Me, I always use spikes on carpet and rubber on hard floors. Do what you think sounds best to you.
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Post by bluemeanies on Jul 26, 2017 18:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 26, 2017 19:54:00 GMT -5
Roy Allison was a genius, a giant of loudspeaker design. Cherish those speakers! I was fortunate, not only to have those systems, but also a dialogue with RA himself from time to time right up to his last few years. Bill
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Post by monkumonku on Jul 26, 2017 20:05:27 GMT -5
Great deal monk...I purchased a box a year ago and use them on all of my equipment, except my speakers 🔊 View AttachmentThe subdudes are what I use for my 803's For big speakers like yours, subdudes make sense for more stability. I use those little pads under all my speakers. I even put them under the legs of my PSA sub. What got me is that some "audiophile" company got hold of a very inexpensive product and then jacked up the price to outrageous levels in the name of being "audio" gear.
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Post by simpleman68 on Jul 26, 2017 20:37:20 GMT -5
Damn.... and I thought these were the inexpensive route. I've just recently looked into isolation equipment but found it does make a big difference with several different speakers on my wood floors. The mid bass is a lot clearer and less muddy primarily. I don't feel the need to get porked with high price goods. I'll look into these. Scott
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Post by monkumonku on Jul 26, 2017 20:40:27 GMT -5
Damn.... and I thought these were the inexpensive route. I've just recently looked into isolation equipment but found it does make a big difference with several different speakers on my wood floors. The mid bass is a lot clearer and less muddy primarily. I don't feel the need to get porked with high price goods. I'll look into these. Scott It can't hurt to try them at that low price. According to the manufacturer, the pads I linked to first (they are blue in the middle) are supposed to have even better damping properties than the cork ones.
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Post by bluemeanies on Jul 27, 2017 6:57:49 GMT -5
Damn.... and I thought these were the inexpensive route. I've just recently looked into isolation equipment but found it does make a big difference with several different speakers on my wood floors. The mid bass is a lot clearer and less muddy primarily. I don't feel the need to get porked with high price goods. I'll look into these. Scott Hey Scott....My friend...you were taken 😂 In all sincerity we all have at one time or another...believe me I am NOT laughing at you. I purchased the ISO PADS from the same company as monk and past the extra to audiobill. Honestly I don't know if he uses them. Truthfully I personally don't know if they work with my application which I have them located on all of my equipment except my speakers and a 100 lb SS amplifier I have for HT. I am using sub-dudes from Auralex for my almost 100lb 803's. I believe I purchased them at $60.00 a piece from Sweetwater. They come in two sizes. I still have to make some adjustments since they are on the edge of the platform BUT I like what I hear. The mids and lows sound more distinctive. My floor is cement but it is padded and carpeted. If possible return your purchase, especially if you have the orginal box. Then place an order with with supplyhouse. My 803's were orginally 4' from my rear wall but only 1" from the side walls. Contacting B&W they recommend that I try to make adjustments which I have since contacting them. They are 6" from the side walls...not ideal (best I can do b/c of room restrictions) but with that adjustment and the sub-dudes it is a noticable improvement. Despite the 803's against the walls before this change the bass was not muddy nor was the treble/midrange confusing to listen too. The mastreo was in the house a while ago just after I purchased the 803's and he liked what he heard...I do think there is an improvement. Sorry I digressed. Hope you are well Scott, Frank
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Post by simpleman68 on Jul 27, 2017 8:51:55 GMT -5
Damn.... and I thought these were the inexpensive route. I've just recently looked into isolation equipment but found it does make a big difference with several different speakers on my wood floors. The mid bass is a lot clearer and less muddy primarily. I don't feel the need to get porked with high price goods. I'll look into these. Scott Hey Scott....My friend...you were taken 😂 In all sincerity we all have at one time or another...believe me I am NOT laughing at you. I purchased the ISO PADS from the same company as monk and past the extra to audiobill. Honestly I don't know if he uses them. Truthfully I personally don't know if they work with my application which I have them located on all of my equipment except my speakers and a 100 lb SS amplifier I have for HT. I am using sub-dudes from Auralex for my almost 100lb 803's. I believe I purchased them at $60.00 a piece from Sweetwater. They come in two sizes. I still have to make some adjustments since they are on the edge of the platform BUT I like what I hear. The mids and lows sound more distinctive. My floor is cement but it is padded and carpeted. If possible return your purchase, especially if you have the orginal box. Then place an order with with supplyhouse. My 803's were orginally 4' from my rear wall but only 1" from the side walls. Contacting B&W they recommend that I try to make adjustments which I have since contacting them. They are 6" from the side walls...not ideal (best I can do b/c of room restrictions) but with that adjustment and the sub-dudes it is a noticable improvement. Despite the 803's against the walls before this change the bass was not muddy nor was the treble/midrange confusing to listen too. The mastreo was in the house a while ago just after I purchased the 803's and he liked what he heard...I do think there is an improvement. Sorry I digressed. Hope you are well Scott, Frank Hey Frank, long time no see. We should do another audio get-together soon. I didn't order anything and fortunately wasn't "taken". I have been thinking about getting them and will most certainly try the cheaper route first. Thanks for the heads up. I'm the skeptical type and not into snake oil items by any stretch. Scott
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Post by Soup on Jul 27, 2017 10:07:22 GMT -5
Try NHL-approved game-used Hockey Pucks! On a budget? NHL-approved practice pucks will do.
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Post by vneal on Jul 27, 2017 10:15:13 GMT -5
I had the Auralex sub foam platform under my two JL Audio F110s and recently spoke with the President of JL Audio who said to trash the foam and that his subs on concrete or carpet-tile or wood floor is the best you can ask for . On my B&W CM10s the speakers are bolted to the platform that came with the speakers and I use no spikes to the platform and it rest direct on a tile floor. I have carpet in front as well as GIK acoustic panels. My other speakers are the ELAC 5s which rest directly on a wooden floor. They too have carpet and panels in front. If I had carpet I probably would spike them
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Post by jlafrenz on Jul 27, 2017 10:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Jul 27, 2017 13:37:29 GMT -5
Simple question . What are people doing in regards to speaker isolation from the floor. This pertains specific to floor standings speakers. I have a cement floor with padding and carpet. I was using spikes which only dug down into the carpet reaching the cement floor. I decided to purchase 2sub dudes from Auralex and place my 803'd on them isolation them from the floor. No spikes. Lately I am being told that a cement floor is the best for a floor standing speakers. No spikes Opinions, please, Thanks
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