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Post by copperpipe on Sept 6, 2017 17:12:18 GMT -5
If you're interested in near field, and want to hear exactly how a recording sounded when produced, go with the speakers most music is mixed on - Yamaha NS 10-M's. I own two pair. No thanks, those are nasty and harsh, and I value my ears  |
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Post by johnnyd70 on Sept 6, 2017 17:19:49 GMT -5
If you're interested in near field, and want to hear exactly how a recording sounded when produced, go with the speakers most music is mixed on - Yamaha NS 10-M's. I own two pair. No thanks, those are nasty and harsh, and I value my ears To each his own, but you'd be hard pressed to find a professional recording studio without a pair sitting on the bridge. |
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 6, 2017 20:20:00 GMT -5
Yamaha has been a workhorse for years in the studio.
This is not about fidelity, or personal listening preferences.
They are super clear, near field monitors which makes them excellent tools for establishing the mix at the board.
An engineer worth his salt knows what he's after there, and when the mix is right it will shine on the system intended for serious listening.
Bill
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Post by johnnyd70 on Sept 6, 2017 21:39:21 GMT -5
I would also add that, within the industry, that it's important that there's a reference, or standard, that's common among engineers. Like them or not, they're what's commonly used, primarily due to the neutrality and flat frequency response. For example, as a studio musician, I do some production at home, then bring either my pre-production files or equipment to the studio at a later time. It's important to know that the mix I hear at home will be relatively close to what I'll get in the studio. Studio time is expensive (for my client, that is)
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Post by teaman on Sept 6, 2017 22:44:30 GMT -5
My bedroom system is about three feet from my headboard, does that qualify? I have a pair of Klipsch KP-250's set up with an XPA-2, XDA-2 and ERC-2. Most of the time I listen at lower levels as I doze off at night. Since I have a system in pretty much every room outside of kitchen and bath I try not to confine myself too much to this bedroom hook up. It sounds fantastic though and even at moderate levels I enjoy the reproduction I get out of it.
I'm sure someone will post that this doesn't qualify or only they are right as it seems this thread is already taking on that kind of life. Not sure why people can't like what they like and dislike what they don't without it all steam rolling into a cesspool.
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Post by copperpipe on Sept 7, 2017 8:19:07 GMT -5
johnnyd70, yes, they are used extensively in studios (as are other brands, such as Adam, or Genelec), doesn't mean they are the best speaker for listening enjoyment. You can have 2 speakers that play back music neutrally, but one is harsh and causes listener fatigue, and the other is pleasant and airy. It's not the coloring of the speaker, but other factors like distortion or whatever. Those Yamahas don't belong anywhere near a home environment, in my opinion.
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Post by teaman on Sept 7, 2017 10:53:20 GMT -5
johnnyd70, yes, they are used extensively in studios (as are other brands, such as Adam, or Genelec), doesn't mean they are the best speaker for listening enjoyment. You can have 2 speakers that play back music neutrally, but one is harsh and causes listener fatigue, and the other is pleasant and airy. It's not the coloring of the speaker, but other factors like distortion or whatever. Those Yamahas don't belong anywhere near a home environment, in my opinion. The Yamahas wouldn't be my choice for a production environment either, I think I would go with M&K's. |
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Post by Soup on Sept 7, 2017 14:19:10 GMT -5
My bedroom system is about three feet from my headboard, does that qualify? I have a pair of Klipsch KP-250's set up with an XPA-2, XDA-2 and ERC-2. Most of the time I listen at lower levels as I doze off at night. Since I have a system in pretty much every room outside of kitchen and bath I try not to confine myself too much to this bedroom hook up. It sounds fantastic though and even at moderate levels I enjoy the reproduction I get out of it. I'm sure someone will post that this doesn't qualify or only they are right as it seems this thread is already taking on that kind of life. Not sure why people can't like what they like and dislike what they don't without it all steam rolling into a cesspool. Agree! I choose my components based on what sounds best in my House. Your mileage may vary, but I don't care. My system was NOT built for You. |
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Post by leonski on Sept 26, 2017 21:01:19 GMT -5
No thanks, those are nasty and harsh, and I value my ears To each his own, but you'd be hard pressed to find a professional recording studio without a pair sitting on the bridge. Last studio I was in used TANNOY. A small pair for auto oriented mixdown and a larger pair for regular folks. My GARAGE system uses a pair of no-name 4" 2-way box speakers and a Dayton amp of maybe 2x7. For near field standing at the bench? Fine. |
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Post by audiobill on Sept 27, 2017 17:38:27 GMT -5
If you're interested in near field, and want to hear exactly how a recording sounded when produced, go with the speakers most music is mixed on - Yamaha NS 10-M's. I own two pair. This doesn't guarantee you're hearing what the mixer did..... |
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Post by ottaone on Sept 27, 2017 17:46:21 GMT -5
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Post by leonski on Sept 27, 2017 18:52:44 GMT -5
Probably the #1 nearfield monitor, even for home use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS3/5AMade by several manufacturers over a long time period. Today? Get yours from Harbeth. |
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Post by novisnick on Sept 27, 2017 21:50:14 GMT -5
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Post by pknaz on Sept 27, 2017 22:24:20 GMT -5
If you're at all into DIY - there are a TON of fantastic near field DIY options that are ridiculously cheap.
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Post by leonski on Sept 27, 2017 23:15:46 GMT -5
I'll bet you can DIY some Wacky Good near-field speakers.
Care to elaborate or link a few examples?
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Post by sahmen on Sept 27, 2017 23:44:11 GMT -5
I use a pair of Airmotiv 6s powered monitors in my home office, and they are hooked up to an Audiogd DAC, and an Audiogd Headamp/preamp combo that drive them quite nicely. I also have an SVS nsd SB12 sub hooked up to the rig in the same room, which is about 13'' X 13', which has no room treatments whatsoever. However I have Amarra Symphony with Dirrac IRC on the computer that is hooked up to the system, and the room correction I get from that Dirac software is quite good so things square off quite nicely..
I have to say that I enjoy music on that near-field system a lot, to the point where I do not miss my main XMC-1 based 2channel/HT system when I am doing my listening at the office table. Of course that rig cannot compete with the XMC-1 based main system for movie watching and surround sound needs, but that is another story entirely.
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Post by GreenKiwi on Sept 27, 2017 23:45:41 GMT -5
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Post by leonski on Sept 28, 2017 0:24:05 GMT -5
I ran my MG-1 panels Face-to-Face, maybe 24" to 30" apart while I laid on the floor, head on pillow.
Open Air Headphones and at levels you couldn't hear in the next room.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the MiniMags were fine in such an application.
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Post by pknaz on Sept 28, 2017 6:02:21 GMT -5
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Post by autiger on Sept 28, 2017 20:33:32 GMT -5
B1's on my desk for near field
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