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Post by vneal on Aug 3, 2017 22:03:04 GMT -5
Talking 2 channel----Any near field listening fans? I have two listening rooms and have been experimenting with the 10x16 Vs 14 x 20 room. The difference is UNBELIEVABLE. More to come
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Post by novisnick on Aug 3, 2017 22:11:38 GMT -5
Yes! Night and day! The room is a huge factor. Its late and Im beat but I like this topic and will come back to it when I have energy. Thanks vneal |
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Post by vneal on Aug 4, 2017 6:58:01 GMT -5
My thoughts are this-How much can nearfield listening compensate for a room that most folks would consider too small? Especially for tower speakers. I have been doing some listening tests and results are in.The size of ones listening room seems to stir many different opinions on if given room is considered too small or just right for certain speakers.
I have been comparing the B&Ws to the ELACs and the B&Ws have found a new home in my small (11 X 16) with left open side into a hallway dedicated two channel room. With nearfield listening I think you may be eliminating the first reflections creating imaging you did not know your speaker had. Add to that dynamic range. Pictures to follow.
The sub can stay in the theater room. So can the ELACs. You guys can all can argue about the latest 14 channel Atmos processor with ceiling speakers, . I have found a great room system combo that really works. I am a two channel guy at heart and have come home to listen
Two channel rules--no sub needed
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Post by jlafrenz on Aug 4, 2017 8:26:49 GMT -5
I had a 2 channel setup in a spare bedroom that was 12x14. It can work, but it takes a bit more tinkering with speaker placement. I also had to go with thicker bass traps in the rear of the room.
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Post by simpleman68 on Aug 4, 2017 14:20:19 GMT -5
"Paging lehighvalleyjeff to the white courtesy phone"  He has a 2nd 2ch rig in a small room and has been working diligently with acoustic treatments and placement. Looking forward to hearing it soon. Scott |
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Post by Axis on Aug 4, 2017 14:35:11 GMT -5
Near field listening is monitors a little more than an arms length away. You want father than that ? Nothing less than the Stealth 8.
My little powered monitor Airmotiv 5s sound fun in my 20 x 40 room but if I want Near field listening I sit arms length away from them and the sound stage is awesome.
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Post by gregd on Aug 4, 2017 18:55:53 GMT -5
I recently got Airmotiv 6s for near field listening in a recliner. Speakers and ears are about 3ft apart, 5 or 6 ft from nearest wall. Sound stage is awesome.
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Post by Axis on Aug 4, 2017 19:13:13 GMT -5
I recently got Airmotiv 6s for near field listening in a recliner. Speakers and ears are about 3ft apart, 5 or 6 ft from nearest wall. Sound stage is awesome. Near field listening means just that. Professional recorders use it to mix there professional recordings. Emotiva makes professional monitors for recording studios. They do not talk about it enough. They need to talk more about it. I have to believe that more than a studio in Memphis, Tennessee uses the Emotiva monitors. I want to see more Pro gear from Emotiva. I have love for the sound stage that Emotiva monitors provide when they are set up properly and close. It is magic beyond the sound that a pair of towers in a big room provide. Big tower speakers and headphones offer something different. If your into audio you owe yourself the experience of a good Near field speaker system. I see hardly anyone here talking about it. You guys are missing out on so much when I read all you do hear. There were recent post about the A-100 and HD-600's like it was something new. You guys that think you are on top of it are just beginning to learn about audio. |
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Post by vneal on Aug 4, 2017 19:32:31 GMT -5
I got a call from an ex recording engineer and we spoke. He told me nearfield is usually 5 feet of less. I am about 8 feet from the speaker. I guess I found a room that works
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Post by Axis on Aug 4, 2017 19:47:49 GMT -5
I got a call from an ex recording engineer and we spoke. He told me nearfield is usually 5 feet of less. I am about 8 feet from the speaker. I guess I found a room that works Arms length is my motto.  |
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Post by simpleman68 on Aug 4, 2017 19:51:28 GMT -5
Arms length is my motto. That's what she said..... heh heh |
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Post by Axis on Aug 4, 2017 20:06:21 GMT -5
Arms length is my motto. That's what she said..... heh heh Dream on |
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Post by DYohn on Aug 5, 2017 11:02:27 GMT -5
Near field should be used when you need to for an office or music mixing application. But to get the most enjoyment from a stereo system I feel you really need the ambience of the room. And a comfortable chair. And adult beverages.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 5, 2017 11:14:57 GMT -5
My thoughts are this-How much can nearfield listening compensate for a room that most folks would consider too small? Especially for tower speakers. I have been doing some listening tests and results are in.The size of ones listening room seems to stir many different opinions on if given room is considered too small or just right for certain speakers. I have been comparing the B&Ws to the ELACs and the B&Ws have found a new home in my small (11 X 16) with left open side into a hallway dedicated two channel room. With nearfield listening I think you may be eliminating the first reflections creating imaging you did not know your speaker had. Add to that dynamic range. Pictures to follow. The sub can stay in the theater room. So can the ELACs. You guys can all can argue about the latest 14 channel Atmos processor with ceiling speakers, . I have found a great room system combo that really works. I am a two channel guy at heart and have come home to listen Two channel rules--no sub needed First, good topic V I have been chastised about my room on another forum, however it is all I have to work with and the house was not built for HT or 2channel. It is a dedicated room. I knocked the garage out. Dimensions are 25' long with 2ceiling heights 7' and 6'4". The walls were design similar to a theater. From the 8' wide screen the walls widen to only a max of 10' I wish I had higher ceilings and about 4' more in width. The B&W's do not CHOKE in this environment. The bass is not muddy and the mid-range is clear as a bell. Would they sound better in a more OPEN room...I think so, but I cannot break out any walls. Second 2channel does rule. I'm happy 😊 |
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Post by saturnx on Aug 8, 2017 18:27:16 GMT -5
First off Great thread topic!
I just purchased Lady Antebellum's, " Need you now" CD and first listened at arm's length away. Stunning! as I didn't know that it's a HDCD until my ERC-1 spun it up. Then I laid back in my sweet spot reclining critical listening position approximately 8ft from my ERM-6.2's, slightly below tweeter axis to reduce their brightness. Boom! I am completely blown away and lost in the soundstage. It is near field bliss but 7.5 ft. away from my beloved Emo's. I've spent more on correcting my rooms accoustics than my speakers and half of my system. It paid off!
Happy listening!
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Post by Axis on Aug 8, 2017 20:42:42 GMT -5
Near field should be used when you need to for an office or music mixing application. But to get the most enjoyment from a stereo system I feel you really need the ambience of the room. And a comfortable chair. And adult beverages. I do mixing with my PC,DC-1 and Airmotiv monitors. I love to sit people down in front of it and let them hear near field. If it is set up right, the speakers disappear and it is right in front of you. You got million dollar gear to do that. We all can not be that lucky. The best ambience of the room I ever heard was two Bose 901's hanging from the ceiling. I can only surmise that is was the perfect room to do that in but some how it worked. Some Bars with who knows what kind of speakers with Willie Nelson playing and a beautiful blonde smiling at me while I am toasted was pretty cool also. |
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Post by kewlmunky on Aug 9, 2017 7:35:44 GMT -5
I do near field listening at my computer, with a pair of Stealth 6s. Also use them for games. Very monstrous desktop speakers. Thinking of adding a BasX S8 sub to them.
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Post by laserman35 on Sept 6, 2017 11:53:31 GMT -5
I have a small theater room 10x14. 5.1 surround with large tower speakers and a projector in the room.
One theater chair in the room. 80% of the room is covered in sound treatments. My rooms sounds humongous, larger than any room I have ever listened to.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 6, 2017 15:12:19 GMT -5
I love listening near a field....good karma Attachments:
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Post by johnnyd70 on Sept 6, 2017 16:20:53 GMT -5
If you're interested in near field, and want to hear exactly how a recording sounded when produced, go with the speakers most music is mixed on - Yamaha NS 10-M's. I own two pair.
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