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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 11, 2017 11:42:00 GMT -5
I was listening this morning to a DVD concert in DTS 5.1. My speaker setup is 7.1 and Preset is Dirac. When DTS 5.1 is selected I get sound out of the 7 speakers no matter the sound MODE (Auto, Surround, Direct, Stereo and All Stereo are the only options I can see). Even with Direct selected I get sound out of the Surround Back speakers. If I select Dolby Digital 5.1 instead of DTS 5.1 then I get all the sound Modes and when Direct is selected I get sound only from 5 speakers. So my question is, is this normal with DTS 5.1 content in a 7.1 speaker setup?
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 11, 2017 14:37:26 GMT -5
I was listening this morning to a DVD concert in DTS 5.1. My speaker setup is 7.1 and Preset is Dirac. When DTS 5.1 is selected I get sound out of the 7 speakers no matter the sound MODE (Auto, Surround, Direct, Stereo and All Stereo are the only options I can see). Even with Direct selected I get sound out of the Surround Back speakers. If I select Dolby Digital 5.1 instead of DTS 5.1 then I get all the sound Modes and when Direct is selected I get sound only from 5 speakers. So my question is, is this normal with DTS 5.1 content in a 7.1 speaker setup? Knowing the exact disc, version etc. would be helpful. ....and the player. Bill |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 11, 2017 15:03:02 GMT -5
Peter Gabriel - Growing Up Live (DVD Nov 2003) and Oppo 105D.
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 11, 2017 15:15:22 GMT -5
It does the same with Avatar Blu Ray DTS-MA 5.1. I get sound from the 7 speakers even in Direct mode. It shows as inout signal DTS-MA 5.1 but for some reason upsample it to 7.1 no matter the Sound mode. With Dolby Digital works fine.
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 11, 2017 15:41:30 GMT -5
Just got on the phone with Emotiva tech support and looks like it's a new bug after the last firmware update. They already reported it to tech dept. Also, my unit is not showing the firmware version which is another bug already reported for many and they said they are working on this to fix it in the next firmware update.
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 11, 2017 16:08:35 GMT -5
Updated the Firmware with USB and now it's showing the firmware version but the DTS 5.1 bug still present.
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 11, 2017 16:23:22 GMT -5
I thought MAYBE with your 7.1 configuration the audio for the surrounds was matrixed to both pair, being it's a 5.1 dts track. I have only 5.1, so I can't play with it here.
Don't have the display glitch with 4.1.
By the way that Growing up live is a great show. ( I have that same disc.) The opening and end tracks are my favorites, with plenty of goodies in between.
In your eyes...great version.
Are your Oppo audio output settings on "auto"?
Bill
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 11, 2017 16:27:22 GMT -5
I thought MAYBE with your 7.1 configuration the audio for the surrounds was matrixed to both pair, being it's a 5.1 dts track. I have only 5.1, so I can't play with it here. Don't have the display glitch with 4.1. By the way that Growing up live is a great show. ( I have that same disc.) The opening and end tracks are my favorites, with plenty of goodies in between. In your eyes...great version. Are your Oppo audio output settings on "auto"? Bill Hi Bill, Yes, the Oppo is set on "Auto" but it does the same when set in Bitstream. After flashed the unit the firmware display bug is gone. |
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 11, 2017 21:25:46 GMT -5
You did the best possible thing by getting with technical support, as it appears they have identified this glitch.
I did the same (came up with 2 firmware issues since 2015) and both were corrected over time.
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 12, 2017 17:24:09 GMT -5
I was listening this morning to a DVD concert in DTS 5.1. My speaker setup is 7.1 and Preset is Dirac. When DTS 5.1 is selected I get sound out of the 7 speakers no matter the sound MODE (Auto, Surround, Direct, Stereo and All Stereo are the only options I can see). Even with Direct selected I get sound out of the Surround Back speakers. If I select Dolby Digital 5.1 instead of DTS 5.1 then I get all the sound Modes and when Direct is selected I get sound only from 5 speakers. So my question is, is this normal with DTS 5.1 content in a 7.1 speaker setup? I'm running the same 7.1 setup and when I'm playing DVD-A discs, "Simple Minds: Once Upon A Time" and "Donald Fagens: The Night Fly" in DTS 5.1, as well as the Pearl Harbor DVD that has DTS 5.1, I'm getting 9 DSP mode options. Surround, Dolby EX, Dolby PLIIx Movie, Dolby PLIIx Music, DTS ES Matrix, Direct, Stereo, All Stereo and AUTO |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 12, 2017 18:14:30 GMT -5
I was listening this morning to a DVD concert in DTS 5.1. My speaker setup is 7.1 and Preset is Dirac. When DTS 5.1 is selected I get sound out of the 7 speakers no matter the sound MODE (Auto, Surround, Direct, Stereo and All Stereo are the only options I can see). Even with Direct selected I get sound out of the Surround Back speakers. If I select Dolby Digital 5.1 instead of DTS 5.1 then I get all the sound Modes and when Direct is selected I get sound only from 5 speakers. So my question is, is this normal with DTS 5.1 content in a 7.1 speaker setup? I'm running the same 7.1 setup and when I'm playing DVD-A discs, "Simple Minds: Once Upon A Time" and "Donald Fagens: The Night Fly" in DTS 5.1, as well as the Pearl Harbor DVD that has DTS 5.1, I'm getting 9 DSP mode options. Surround, Dolby EX, Dolby PLIIx Movie, Dolby PLIIx Music, DTS ES Matrix, Direct, Stereo, All Stereo and AUTO Could you please check if all 7 speakers get sound when Surround or Direct are selected as sound mode? I checked the same DTS 5.1 DVDs in my Marantz NR1606 and it behaves the same way as the XMC-1 so looks like it's not a bug and more like the way DTS process 5.1 input signals in 7.1 speakers setups. |
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Post by Axis on Aug 12, 2017 18:26:53 GMT -5
I'm running the same 7.1 setup and when I'm playing DVD-A discs, "Simple Minds: Once Upon A Time" and "Donald Fagens: The Night Fly" in DTS 5.1, as well as the Pearl Harbor DVD that has DTS 5.1, I'm getting 9 DSP mode options. Surround, Dolby EX, Dolby PLIIx Movie, Dolby PLIIx Music, DTS ES Matrix, Direct, Stereo, All Stereo and AUTO Could you please check if all 7 speakers get sound when Surround or Direct are selected as sound mode? All Stereo mode is the only mode I use with surround and music. Dolby music or DTS music puts too much in one place for me. Two channel stereo is my preferred method for music. I know surround music in movie disk sounds cool when you are in the sweet spot but I do not get into it the same when I move out of the surround sound center of it. I guess you have to just take your pick and how your speakers are set up in your room. Never really wanted to sit in one surround sound spot to listen to music. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 13, 2017 0:15:15 GMT -5
I'm running the same 7.1 setup and when I'm playing DVD-A discs, "Simple Minds: Once Upon A Time" and "Donald Fagens: The Night Fly" in DTS 5.1, as well as the Pearl Harbor DVD that has DTS 5.1, I'm getting 9 DSP mode options. Surround, Dolby EX, Dolby PLIIx Movie, Dolby PLIIx Music, DTS ES Matrix, Direct, Stereo, All Stereo and AUTO Could you please check if all 7 speakers get sound when Surround or Direct are selected as sound mode? I checked the same DTS 5.1 DVDs in my Marantz NR1606 and it behaves the same way as the XMC-1 so looks like it's not a bug and more like the way DTS process 5.1 input signals in 7.1 speakers setups. Yes I'm getting sound from all 7 speakers in both Surround & Direct. I would agree, I too don't believe this to be a bug in the XMC-1 firmware. |
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Post by cwt on Aug 13, 2017 3:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by texthai on Aug 14, 2017 14:35:26 GMT -5
It would sure be great to get an answer from someone who knows on this one. I too was under the impression DTS 5.1 was upconverted to 7.1, and it used to be.
But now it is not.
Anybody know if we need a firmware change on this?
God Bless,
Wayne
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Post by enricoclaudio on Aug 14, 2017 18:15:56 GMT -5
The way DTS Surround 5.1 and DTS-MA 5.1 is behaving in my two systems (XMC-1 and Marantz SR1606) is that it's sending the Surround speakers signal to the Surround Back speakers. I got an email this morning from Emotiva customer support and here is it: Hi Enrico, Thank you so much for the awareness of playing back speakers when in "Direct" mode is set and a DTS 5.1 track was being played. We did get confirmation from our Programming Engineer this morning, that this is a spec. from DTS, that we are to copy surround speakers into the backs even in "Direct" (no processing) mode is selected. Sorry, this is an update applied to the latest firmware to comply with DTS specs. Thank you, Damon Steele Product Specialist Emotiva Audio Corporation 615.790.6754 www.emotiva.com |
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Post by cwt on Aug 15, 2017 2:34:26 GMT -5
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Post by cwt on Aug 15, 2017 2:37:37 GMT -5
ignore [ duplicate]
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Its a matter of following the exact dts guidelines as happens with denon too ;
