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Post by drtrey3 on Aug 23, 2017 7:28:56 GMT -5
Do Old Speakers really sell? (a Philip K. Dick short story?)
No, but they dream of electric sheep.
Trey
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 23, 2017 11:48:59 GMT -5
...As far as a recommendation on CRAIGLISTS that caveat would be to not to take that road. It could be trouble. Craigslist has 0 responsibility for whom you contact which could very well be someone casing your house or just set out to rob you. To many bad reviews... You CAN safely CraigsList IF you follow sensible rules: 1. NO strangers in your house - period. This means that folks can't listen in advance, but a money-back guarantee works fine instead. 2. CASH payment only and no big bills - $50 and $100 bills are sometimes counterfeit. Keep it to $20 bills and smaller and it'll be fine. Your ad needs to list this requirement in advance. 3. Meet ONLY in a public place and during business hours so that there are LOTS of other people around. 4. Show the customer ALL sides of the merchandise, emphasizing any flaws so that there can be no complaints down the road. 5. Size up the customer on sight. You can do this by being in eyesight of the meeting place & identifying the customer by calling them on your cell. The person whom you see answer their phone is your potential customer. Are they driving a junk car or wearing a prison uniform? Then how do they have thousands in cash to buy a speaker set? If anything doesn't feel right, drive away immediately & then tell that particular customer that the item has already been sold. Better to tell a fib than to be robbed at gunpoint. I've had nothing but perfect experiences selling on CL using these safety rules. Even with very expensive items. YMMV.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 23, 2017 12:37:22 GMT -5
On craigslist it's really hard to sell anything expensive. Everyone's cheap on there. Lol.
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 23, 2017 16:18:22 GMT -5
You've also got to watch out for foam woofer cones. They rot away to flaking nothingness. You can replace them, but the average hobbyist wouldn't try. Probably you were referring to the foam surrounds (as in surrounding the cone) which is generally treated paper or other more durable material. Rubber and cloth are other materials used and those eventually break down also in time. The foam ( newer versions are more durable composition supposedly) was chosen in many instances for superior audio qualities despite reduced longevity. It's an enthusiasts chore, but a rewarding one, when you're after the original sound from some vintage models. I've had MANY drivers rebuilt over the years, which also includes the "spider" at the base of the cone. The spider may look ok, but they have a compliance which may be lost after many years, allowing the driver to bottom out with high volume/ lower frequencies. Bill
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Post by leonski on Aug 23, 2017 18:29:26 GMT -5
"I weeeel take your Craigslist offering and throw in an extra $100 for your trouble. I will send payment immediately via a bank draft from my uncle's bank in Nigeria. We may need to round the price up & have you send me the difference. But consider your wonderful speakers sold and thank you again for your trouble!" ROTFLMAO... "It's a BEAUT" Boom! I was selling a ROTEL RB1070 power amp. New cost about 700$ Went with Craigslist and got an offer for500$ if I shipped immediately. Same as the Nigeria Scam only from somewhere back East. The amp was going to be a Birthday Gift! My scam detector went to Full Scale. Some speakers of Lasting Value include the Original KLH9. Magnepan Tympani is also on the list and many examples still are played daily.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 24, 2017 21:06:10 GMT -5
...As far as a recommendation on CRAIGLISTS that caveat would be to not to take that road. It could be trouble. Craigslist has 0 responsibility for whom you contact which could very well be someone casing your house or just set out to rob you. To many bad reviews... You CAN safely CraigsList IF you follow sensible rules: 1. NO strangers in your house - period. This means that folks can't listen in advance, but a money-back guarantee works fine instead. 2. CASH payment only and no big bills - $50 and $100 bills are sometimes counterfeit. Keep it to $20 bills and smaller and it'll be fine. Your ad needs to list this requirement in advance. 3. Meet ONLY in a public place and during business hours so that there are LOTS of other people around. 4. Show the customer ALL sides of the merchandise, emphasizing any flaws so that there can be no complaints down the road. 5. Size up the customer on sight. You can do this by being in eyesight of the meeting place & identifying the customer by calling them on your cell. The person whom you see answer their phone is your potential customer. Are they driving a junk car or wearing a prison uniform? Then how do they have thousands in cash to buy a speaker set? If anything doesn't feel right, drive away immediately & then tell that particular customer that the item has already been sold. Better to tell a fib than to be robbed at gunpoint. I've had nothing but perfect experiences selling on CL using these safety rules. Even with very expensive items. YMMV. There are to many other venues out there to safely sell your equipment. Why add stress into the formula of wanting to sell your equipment at a fair price. CRAIGSLIST is a desperate cry to make a sale. I'd rather donate the piece....get a tax deduction and call it a day.
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 25, 2017 0:56:03 GMT -5
There are to many other venues out there to safely sell your equipment. Why add stress into the formula of wanting to sell your equipment at a fair price. CRAIGSLIST is a desperate cry to make a sale. I'd rather donate the piece....get a tax deduction and call it a day. That's one way to look at it. Here's my take: Selling on CL is FREE - Unlike eBay (where fees eat up to 15% of the sale price) Selling on CL is LOCAL - Not having to pack and ship delicate components is a good thing Selling on CL is FAIR - Either the customer wants to pay your price or he doesn't If you want to donate thousands of dollars for a small tax deduction, feel free to do so. I respect your choice. I'd prefer to sell my gear to those who really want it.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 25, 2017 6:55:38 GMT -5
There are to many other venues out there to safely sell your equipment. Why add stress into the formula of wanting to sell your equipment at a fair price. CRAIGSLIST is a desperate cry to make a sale. I'd rather donate the piece....get a tax deduction and call it a day. That's one way to look at it. Here's my take: Selling on CL is FREE - Unlike eBay (where fees eat up to 15% of the sale price) Selling on CL is LOCAL - Not having to pack and ship delicate components is a good thing Selling on CL is FAIR - Either the customer wants to pay your price or he doesn't If you want to donate thousands of dollars for a small tax deduction, feel free to do so. I respect your choice. I'd prefer to sell my gear to those who really want it. All of the above Boom is true..but I will take a leap here and say that YOU, myself and others having quality/hi-end audio equipment, would not be selling that equipment on CL. AUDIOMART.COM is free and they also have an AUDIOMART for Canada đŸ‡¨đŸ‡¦ There are apps such as "LETGO" where you can sell free and local As far as you last remark about " the customer wants to pay your price or he doesn't" that statement can be painted on any business that advertises products for sale. We just have differences of opinion on this one Boom...I am myself a little gun shy about CL. My remark about donating revolves around something of little value...something you found in the attic that you have forgotten about and instead of TRASHING IT. Nothing in my setups I would be donating. My friend recently found an old TT and TEAC tape deck...neither worked. Both were of little value. I personally had two PANASONIC VCRS in a closet that I just donated. I checked on e-bay and they were selling for $20.00 a piece. I donated them to goodwill and declared them on my taxes at half there orginal cost. They were in excellant condition with orginal boxes and manual. I could not even sell them a two yard sales for $25.00 each BTW..THEY BOTH WORKED.
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 25, 2017 8:05:53 GMT -5
I see quite a few things posted on both Craig's List and EBay simultaneously.
I have looked many times on CL, but never bought or sold there.....I stick with EBay.... it's the best by far and I've been using it now for around 15 years.
The "free" thing is a tired đŸ˜´ argument. I harken back to the old saying, nothing is free. Additionally, I've successfully arbitrated on EBay....they are really there for you if you understand the guidelines and run with them.
Bill
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Post by vneal on Aug 25, 2017 8:32:03 GMT -5
We're sorry; AudioMart is currently under some renovation. We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope to be back soon with an all-new AudioMart!
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 25, 2017 8:47:50 GMT -5
We're sorry; AudioMart is currently under some renovation. We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope to be back soon with an all-new AudioMart! Sold both my B&W's and JLAudio sub thru audiomart
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Post by vneal on Aug 25, 2017 9:37:24 GMT -5
not this week
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Post by snacker on Aug 27, 2017 12:01:11 GMT -5
I disagree with boom a little on the meet someone somewhere. Unless you meet them somewhere you can hook the gear up, everyone I've met wants to demo the gear before they buy.
Couple things to add to finding stuff on craigslist, you can setup alerts and get notified if a keyword matches a listing. I didn't know this right away but it has become a big time saver if you are looking to buy.
Another point is you get to meet other locals with the same interests. I met a guy that was buying and selling there amongst other places. He has pickers looking for stuff as well. Now anytime he wants to sell something, I get dibs. He just called me yesterday with some dynaco tube monoblocks and matching preamp he's selling.
You do have to be careful, I've got plenty on those messages about paying paypal and someone else will pick up for me. Usually the scams are pretty easy to spot however. I haven't had an issue so far, knock on wood. ; )
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Post by leonski on Aug 27, 2017 12:32:23 GMT -5
I had and ad for a TV I was selling that I was up-front needed a new light engine. Guy claimed he was IN EUROPE! and would have a buddy come by. Declined.
Meeting a CraigsList Invitee IN while wearing a 9mm in a shoulder holster helps keep the excitement down.
Parasites should be executed during halftime at the superbowl.
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Post by Percussionista on Aug 27, 2017 13:03:37 GMT -5
I had and ad for a TV I was selling that I was up-front needed a new light engine. Guy claimed he was IN EUROPE! and would have a buddy come by. Declined. Was this TV a DLP model? Our current TV is a 67" Samsung DLP, the last year they made them, and I've seen the videos on the several common kinds of things that eventually can go wrong, and how to repair them yourself. The light engine was one of the "easier" ones to replace. Perhaps a little more cable pulling to get at the mirror chip - that's the one that's beginning to fail on ours; stuck white pixels on the screen. We intend to go UHD this year (or we were until the idea of moving came up), and don't know what to do with the DLP TV - it would be a shame to just junk it and we absolutely don't want to move with it. The people that have replaced the mirror chip say it makes the TV like new and were very pleased. Do you think it would be worth it for me to try and sell the TV "as is", or buy the $200 chip and do the repair first? Original retail cost was $2000.
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Post by leonski on Aug 27, 2017 14:46:02 GMT -5
No, NOT DLP. A Sony SXRD which is LcOS. Liquid Crystal On Silicon. An electronic, reflective technology. VERY good picture but design flaws and a CHEAP COMPANY named SONY doomed it. Sony Continues to use the SXRD technology but I can't get a clear answer if the filters have been changed from plastic to heat-proof glass.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 15:31:41 GMT -5
Sold a pair of Infinity SM-150's on C.L. for $200. The guy drove from Tulsa, OK to Dallas, 250 miles. I didn't know they were worth the gas money
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Post by DYohn on Aug 27, 2017 15:46:02 GMT -5
eBay and Audiogon only for me, buying or selling.
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Post by DYohn on Aug 27, 2017 15:49:07 GMT -5
And by the way, in 2005 I sold a set of vintage Altec Lansing Voice of the Theater speakers that I had restored with new drivers and custom built high-end crossovers, making a tidy profit on the deal. If you have something desirable, you'll do fine. If you're selling something common or commercial, maybe - maybe not.
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Post by snacker on Aug 27, 2017 16:46:24 GMT -5
And by the way, in 2005 I sold a set of vintage Altec Lansing Voice of the Theater speakers that I had restored with new drivers and custom built high-end crossovers, making a tidy profit on the deal. If you have something desirable, you'll do fine. If you're selling something common or commercial, maybe - maybe not. I think you'd be surprised of some with the pay it forward attitude of some gear hobbiests/audiophiles. Many including myself do not try to profit from buying and selling. We may make 100 here and lose 100 there but the goal amongst the locals I've met is to try something different. It's been fun and I've even loaned gear and had it loaned to me just by meeting a few locals who enjoy the same thing.
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