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Post by amped on Sept 19, 2017 19:33:44 GMT -5
Well what type of music you listen to like rock/classical or jazz/easy listening should be considered If you listen at a level of about 30 watts continuous then you should have at least 10 times that (so 300-350 WPC) in reserve for dynamic passages if you listen to jazz/easy listening you may be able to get away with 200+/- WPC. That being said make sure that what ever amp you choose for what ever formula you adopt that the power is clean and that you check the specs to see where they clip.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 21:33:04 GMT -5
That's my gardener.........I didn't know you guys were friends! Bill  |
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Post by hemster on Sept 19, 2017 21:35:42 GMT -5
That's my gardener.........I didn't know you guys were friends! Bill I swear I haven't seen the garden! Been gasping for oxygen since I said "Hello" to her.  |
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 21:42:35 GMT -5
Well what type of music you listen to like rock/classical or jazz/easy listening should be considered If you listen at a level of about 30 watts continuous then you should have at least 10 times that (so 300-350 WPC) in reserve for dynamic passages if you listen to jazz/easy listening you may be able to get away with 200+/- WPC. That being said make sure that what ever amp you choose for what ever formula you adopt that the power is clean and that you check the specs to see where they clip. How did you equate 30 watts to a specific listening level?...db output? |
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Post by indyscammer on Sept 19, 2017 21:58:52 GMT -5
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Post by amped on Sept 19, 2017 22:36:01 GMT -5
I just used 30 watts as a relative number. Don't forget there was a time not that long ago that if you had a receiver or an amp with an output of 100 WPC you had da bomb system! Yes db's would be a more accurate description of "sound" to the ears, there are a lot of factors that would affect that such as distance of the speakers from the listening position, capable SPL and efficiency of the speaker and so on.
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Post by bubb on Sept 20, 2017 0:04:48 GMT -5
A wise man once said "When life hands you lemons, - Remember!! A simple surgery can give you melons".
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Post by vneal on Sept 20, 2017 2:49:34 GMT -5
I stand corrected. You can have too much of something
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 11:14:52 GMT -5
Speaking candidly, I honestly don't know why people end up blowing speakers at all, unless they are just the wrong speaker for the environment (like installing them in a dance club or gymnasium and expecting rock concert levels). Our Airmotiv 35mm folded ribbon element can handle 60W of EIA noise (6dB crest factor pink noise) continuously, which makes it capable of 108dB continuous output at 1 meter, with short duration peaks of up to 114dB possible. This makes the speakers capable of THX reference level, which is 105dB at 1 meter, with 9dB headroom for peaks. This means THX reference peak levels should be possible in-room at 3m (9') from the speakers, with just one channel playing. With multiple channels playing, levels well above that are possible - 114dB continuous, 120 peak for two speakers, which can damage your hearing. (This is all supposing the woofers aren't blown first - possible with the little B1 or E1 maybe.) These SPL numbers are LOUD; in normal music listening I'm between 70-75dB at a 'good' level, with 85dB peaks. 90dB should not be listened to continuously for more than an hour without hearing protection. All of our speakers will happily do this all day, with material that is within their frequency response limits at the low end.
If you have ringing in the ears after listening, you have damaged your hearing partially, and hearing does not come back. Our big amps are capable of driving our speakers to levels that are dangerous to one's hearing -- you are hereby warned; it is up to the listener (so say the courts) to exercise judgment in setting a comfortable listening volume level. The purpose of having that amount of power on tap is not to use it at all times, but to provide for effortless and realistic dynamic contrasts without "clipping" when listening to music or movies.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 20, 2017 12:53:24 GMT -5
"The purpose of having that amount of power on tap is not to use it at all times, but to provide for effortless and realistic dynamic contrasts without "clipping" when listening to music or movies." Totally agree and this is it in a nutshell. Bill |
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