bubb
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Post by bubb on Sept 18, 2017 23:35:44 GMT -5
While shopping for a new TV to replace my plasma I got to hear a pair of the the new ELAC F5 speakers. I like what I heard and I bought a pair. Fast forward through me realizing the old A/V receiver was not going to cut it with the 4k or the future.
I am going to take the death of the old TV as the beginning of my new system built with separates. Starting with the speakers I recently bought I am hesitant to commit to an amp. The F5's are 4 ohm speakers with an 85 db sensitivity and listed by ELAC to have a max input of 140 watts RMS. I pretty much kept the thought for the last 25 years or so that within reason it did not matter what wattage your amp was running to your speakers as long as the speaker did not clip or distort. Now I don't know why I thought this but now that I am looking for an amp I am finding hard to find an exact match. I would happily mate the speakers to an A-300 or an A- 500, but is that too much? Actually I would love to have an XPA-2 drive the speakers, but I'm already guessing that 490 watts RMS is just too awesomeness for a 140 RMS max.
Any thoughts or direction to point me in?
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 19, 2017 0:31:04 GMT -5
There is no such thing as too many watts. Just don't turn it up too loud.
But there is such a thing as too little watts, that cause distortion before it's too loud.
Distortion kills many more speakers than watts.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by Loop 7 on Sept 19, 2017 1:55:59 GMT -5
I have the ELAC B6 stand mounted speakers. I've driven them with...
Marantz AVR (70 watts/channel)
Parasound amp (125 watts/channel)
Bryston amps (250 watts/channel) (borrowed amp)
OddWatt tube amp (15 watts/channel).
All sounded great but I thought the Parasound and the low power tube amp sounded really special.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 6:32:33 GMT -5
In 1988 I was running bridged amps....1000 watts at 8 ohm.
It was tooooo much way......
Bill
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Post by vneal on Sept 19, 2017 6:44:26 GMT -5
I have Elac F5s on my HT system running 250 watts of McIntosh power. I have also listened to the system in my audio only room with my BasX300 amp. Both sound fine. Also My manual shows them to be 8 ohms not 4 with efficiency of 90db.
My recommendation would be to get the BasX300 amp. But think the XPA2 would even be better
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Post by geebo on Sept 19, 2017 6:59:59 GMT -5
If you want the XPA-2 there is no reason not to get it. You won't be sorry.
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Post by macromicroman on Sept 19, 2017 7:25:15 GMT -5
Too much power? Is that like a girl too pretty, too much money, or too much fun?
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Post by creimes on Sept 19, 2017 8:04:54 GMT -5
While shopping for a new TV to replace my plasma I got to hear a pair of the the new ELAC F5 speakers. I like what I heard and I bought a pair. Fast forward through me realizing the old A/V receiver was not going to cut it with the 4k or the future. I am going to take the death of the old TV as the beginning of my new system built with separates. Starting with the speakers I recently bought I am hesitant to commit to an amp. The F5's are 4 ohm speakers with an 85 db sensitivity and listed by ELAC to have a max input of 140 watts RMS. I pretty much kept the thought for the last 25 years or so that within reason it did not matter what wattage your amp was running to your speakers as long as the speaker did not clip or distort. Now I don't know why I thought this but now that I am looking for an amp I am finding hard to find an exact match. I would happily mate the speakers to an A-300 or an A- 500, but is that too much? Actually I would love to have an XPA-2 drive the speakers, but I'm already guessing that 490 watts RMS is just too awesomeness for a 140 RMS max. Any thoughts or direction to point me in? No affiliation to the seller but this is a great deal. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/51011/fs-250-amplifier-excellent-conditionThere are many amps for sale here on the lounge, I see some XPA-2 Gen 2 amps for sale as well but IMO the SA-250 would be a great choice. Chad |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 19, 2017 8:49:03 GMT -5
A speaker with 85 dB sensitivity could use some real power behind it, go for it.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 19, 2017 9:12:26 GMT -5
Dont worry about too much power. I use 1000 watt amps on my speakers. You can damage a speaker with too much power but you have to be really going nuts and ignoring signs of speaker distress.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 9:14:34 GMT -5
In 1988 I was running bridged amps....1000 watts at 8 ohm. It was tooooo much way...... Bill What was REALLY going on was 30 years ago, I knew nothing about subwoofers, frequency response, (what full range really means.) Once I got educated, the result was 1000, down to 400 (still a ton by any standard) and the high power for the lows is in the sub. Amplifier. Balance of power. Bill |
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 9:23:13 GMT -5
Dont worry about too much power. I use 1000 watt amps on my speakers. You can damage a speaker with too much power but you have to be really going nuts and ignoring signs of speaker distress. The problem I had with 1000 watts was when someone else was at the controls 😡. I once came home and powered up...........No sound. I (fortunately) had in line fuses in place. My wife blew them BOTH out. Bill |
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Post by DYohn on Sept 19, 2017 9:26:29 GMT -5
If you turn on your system and your loudspeakers release the magic smoke and the smell of a million frying plastic soda straws, that's too much power.
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bubb
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Post by bubb on Sept 19, 2017 12:15:21 GMT -5
This is good to hear. Thank you for the quick responses! I have some planning to do!
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 14:24:50 GMT -5
If you turn on your system and your loudspeakers release the magic smoke and the smell of a million frying plastic soda straws, that's too much power. Ahh...so THAT'S what it was💀 Bill |
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Post by Porscheguy on Sept 19, 2017 14:44:34 GMT -5
I have 3 XPR amps and they total 30 million watts. That is not enough. I need more power and I need more cowbell..
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Post by novisnick on Sept 19, 2017 15:03:53 GMT -5
I have 3 XPR amps and they total 30 million watts. That is not enough. I need more power and I need more cowbell..
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 19, 2017 15:57:08 GMT -5
I have 3 XPR amps and they total 30 million watts. That is not enough. I need more power and I need more cowbell..
View AttachmentMONOSTACKS Bill |
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Post by vneal on Sept 19, 2017 18:11:58 GMT -5
Too much power is like saying her breasts are too big
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Post by hemster on Sept 19, 2017 18:32:35 GMT -5
Too much power is like saying her breasts are too big I think I'd rather have too much power...  |
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