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Post by garbulky on Jan 4, 2018 23:48:08 GMT -5
LuisVIthink the probem is solved As eveybody noted I needed a newer router. I got a Unifi AP router which I believe is a "professional" router. It costs $70, does 300 mb and has MIMO capability. So a lot cheaper than the better routers but so far I loaded it up with all the devices I could throw at it and it has stayed stable. However the day is not up yet. But so far it seems to be doing quite well. Now interestingly this is a wireless access point. So it's going off one of my old linksys router's ethernet port and broadcasting a wifi signal. So the old linksys is still in the mix. And also interestingly all the ethernet devices and wifi devices can recognize each other like they are on the same network. Also of interest both the linksys wifi and the Unifi wifi work at the same time. AND both wifi devices on each wifi router can see each other. I didn't think that would work that easily. However to avoid any mix up I put all the devices on the Unifi. I've put in even more devices and have plans for a few more even. Thanks everybody for the suggestions. Things are going quite well and I am satisfied.
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Post by LuisV on Jan 4, 2018 23:54:28 GMT -5
Great, glad things are working better for you. I assume you picked up the Unifi AP-AC-Lite?
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 5, 2018 0:53:39 GMT -5
I've put in even more devices and have plans for a few more even. Thanks everybody for the suggestions. Things are going quite well and I am satisfied. What devices do you have? I have the following with wifi via 2 x Airport Extremes (one at each end of the house); 3 x iPhone X's 3 x iPads 2 x Apple TV's (1 x 4K) 1 x MacMini 1 x Samsung 4K HDR TV 1 x Sony X800 4K BD player 1 x Schlage Sense Smart Deadlock 2 x Garage Roll a Door Controllers 1 x Philips Hue Hub 3 x Philips Hue lights 1 x 15 metre LED strip Next addition is a D-Link Omna 180 degree HD camera with motion detector. Cheers Gary |
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Post by pknaz on Jan 5, 2018 1:50:47 GMT -5
I've put in even more devices and have plans for a few more even. Thanks everybody for the suggestions. Things are going quite well and I am satisfied. What devices do you have? I have the following with wifi via 2 x Airport Extremes (one at each end of the house); 3 x iPhone X's 3 x iPads 2 x Apple TV's (1 x 4K) 1 x MacMini 1 x Samsung 4K HDR TV 1 x Sony X800 4K BD player 1 x Schlage Sense Smart Deadlock 2 x Garage Roll a Door Controllers 1 x Philips Hue Hub 3 x Philips Hue lights 1 x 15 metre LED strip Next addition is a D-Link Omna 180 degree HD camera with motion detector. Cheers Gary The Ubiquity AP's are semi-pro - so they're designed to have a TON of devices thrown at them and still function well. They also have two separate radios in them (one for 2.4ghz and one for 5ghz) so devices on one spectrum won't congest airtime for devices on the other spectrum. I easily have as many devices as you and I have no issues with my Ubiquity AP's. When it comes to wireless, they're the best bang for the buck. I moved away from my Airport Extreme to Ubiquity, and I'm a pretty big Apple fan boy. |
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Post by audiobill on Jan 5, 2018 8:49:35 GMT -5
I like my Apple Time Capsule - does all the above, plus automatic backups of everything to its own or an external hard drive.
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Post by qdtjni on Jan 5, 2018 8:57:06 GMT -5
The Philipd Hue Lights are not on your WLAN, they communicate with your Hue Hub using zigbee. |
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Post by millst on Jan 5, 2018 10:30:15 GMT -5
Turn off your old Wi-F on your old router. You're creating congestion and screwing up your network.
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Post by KeithL on Jan 5, 2018 11:30:08 GMT -5
I was thinking sort of the same thing.... although it doesn't always make a difference. (Note that an Access Point may be designed to work with your existing WiFi network - but also may require a specific configuration option to do so.) Likewise, if you have two devices with active WiFi, put a little distance between them. Having two WiFi devices right next to each other can sometimes cause interference. (Even a foot or two apart, or on opposite ends of a shelf, is sometimes better than right up next to each other. ) Remember that WiFi devices, wireless routers, and cordless phone bases all have radio transmitters and receivers in them. That means that either can cause issues if placed within a few inches of each other - or of other electronic equipment. Turn off your old Wi-F on your old router. You're creating congestion and screwing up your network. -tm |
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Post by millst on Jan 5, 2018 12:11:44 GMT -5
Even with all that, it's bound to cause some reduction in quality. For 2.5GHz, there are only 3 20MHz bandwidth channels (1, 6, 11) that do not overlap in the US. Unless OP is in a rural area, there will be some interference. For the increased throughput from 802.11N, the channel bonding pretty much needs to use all the channels.
Any time two routers/clients transmit at the same time, there is a collision. The transmitters have to back off and retransmit. This lowers throughput and increases latency. As congestion grows, this gets worse.
-tm
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Post by garbulky on Jan 5, 2018 13:04:34 GMT -5
Turn off your old Wi-F on your old router. You're creating congestion and screwing up your network. -tm Even with all that, it's bound to cause some reduction in quality. For 2.5GHz, there are only 3 20MHz bandwidth channels (1, 6, 11) that do not overlap in the US. Unless OP is in a rural area, there will be some interference. For the increased throughput from 802.11N, the channel bonding pretty much needs to use all the channels. Any time two routers/clients transmit at the same time, there is a collision. The transmitters have to back off and retransmit. This lowers throughput and increases latency. As congestion grows, this gets worse. -tm I just figured out how to. It's now off. Today, one device went down but came back up. The way it did so looks like it may have been just a glitch on that specific device than the wifi. But I disabled the second wifi anyway. Other than that one glitch everything has been very stable. I've also been using multi room music which normally causes the wifi to quickly crash. But now it no longer does. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 5, 2018 16:59:10 GMT -5
I easily have as many devices as you and I have no issues with my Ubiquity AP's. When it comes to wireless, they're the best bang for the buck. I moved away from my Airport Extreme to Ubiquity, and I'm a pretty big Apple fan boy. I'm sure that there's heaps of alternatives, but I have no reason to change, everything works, any time, every time. Stable, speedy data transfer, trouble free with simple installation and zero maintenance, which for a non IT specialist like me means freed up time to do other things. Cheers Gary |
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Post by pknaz on Jan 5, 2018 21:54:08 GMT -5
I easily have as many devices as you and I have no issues with my Ubiquity AP's. When it comes to wireless, they're the best bang for the buck. I moved away from my Airport Extreme to Ubiquity, and I'm a pretty big Apple fan boy. I'm sure that there's heaps of alternatives, but I have no reason to change, everything works, any time, every time. Stable, speedy data transfer, trouble free with simple installation and zero maintenance, which for a non IT specialist like me means freed up time to do other things. Cheers Gary Yup, agree, as long as they're trouble free, no reason to "fix" what isn't broken! |
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