pricing and hdr support

[ausman]

not sure who to ask though it appears thar australian retailers stock9ing your hardware are inflating the prices a tad

is the xmc1 going to support hdr pass through i ask this because hdr is becoming the default standard in tv's and i'm about to buy emotiva..

[jlafrenz]

Screen shots show HDR.

emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/51983/v3-hdmi-board-update

[ausman]

thanks

i WASN'T sure of it that's why i asked

I might end up importing it as to buy it local is a waste the markup is $2,000 more than it sells for in the states..

I'd love to buy emotiva local though at present @ $4,500 local is a bit of a stretch considering i could likely iomport myself for $3,300 or4 there abouts

[socketman]

You poor buggers get a royal shanking on imported stuff and here in Canuckville we run a close second. I am sure someone would be more than willing to assist you in your purchase and forward it on to you. They ship free to Canada so that would be a start i suppose. I am so far north that it wouldnt help you much ,if i lived in BC i would do in a heartbeat. Actually my parents live in BC i could send it there and forward it to you if your interested. My broinlaw is from OZ so i have a soft spot for you lads.

[ausman]

the xmc 1 retail is $4,500 here, yet i can import cheaper than buying the bloody thing at retail this is why I have said all along if you want to do emotiva outside the states you really need to get people setup within australia as a direct sale agent to reduce some of the cost, doing it at the current medium of distro agents is killing the consumer base

dealer networking in Australia is nothing but a retail scam and should never exist..

I would support local buying more if it was within $500-1,000 of the $USD price but when the markup is $2,000 ontop of the USD price i just can't justify the additional cost outlay especially looking at buying 2 or more units at a time..

price gouging is real big issue in australia for a $2,500 processor i'm expected to pay $4,000 extra, for 5,000 usd i might py 6.5-7k to grt it here

thanks for the offer i only deal direct with emotiva, look at my display tag on the left, i'm already a emo customer lol

emo vip

[enricoclaudio]

Feb 3, 2018 23:20:15 GMT -5 ausman said:

the xmc 1 retail is $4,500 here, yet i can import cheaper than buying the bloody thing at retail this is why I have said all along if you want to do emotiva outside the states you really need to get people setup within australia as a direct sale agent to reduce some of the cost, doing it at the current medium of distro agents is killing the consumer base

dealer networking in Australia is nothing but a retail scam and should never exist..

I would support local buying more if it was within $500-1,000 of the $USD price but when the markup is $2,000 ontop of the USD price i just can't justify the additional cost outlay especially looking at buying 2 or more units at a time..

price gouging is real big issue in australia for a $2,500 processor i'm expected to pay $4,000 extra, for 5,000 usd i might py 6.5-7k to grt it here

thanks for the offer i only deal direct with emotiva, look at my display tag on the left, i'm already a emo customer lol

emo vip

Just wait until the XMC-1 comes with the V3 HDMI board installed to place your order with Emotiva, otherwise if you place the order now, while the price includes the V3 HDMI board upgrade, it will be shipped with the HDMI 1.4b board and you will need to get the V3 HDMI board shipped to you and you might end paying import fees for something that you already paid and also install the board by yourself. 

[ausman]

i haven't brought it yet

[simpleman68]

Feb 3, 2018 23:20:15 GMT -5 ausman said:

the xmc 1 retail is $4,500 here, yet i can import cheaper than buying the bloody thing at retail this is why I have said all along if you want to do emotiva outside the states you really need to get people setup within australia as a direct sale agent to reduce some of the cost, doing it at the current medium of distro agents is killing the consumer base

dealer networking in Australia is nothing but a retail scam and should never exist..

I would support local buying more if it was within $500-1,000 of the $USD price but when the markup is $2,000 ontop of the USD price i just can't justify the additional cost outlay especially looking at buying 2 or more units at a time..

price gouging is real big issue in australia for a $2,500 processor i'm expected to pay $4,000 extra, for 5,000 usd i might py 6.5-7k to grt it here

thanks for the offer i only deal direct with emotiva, look at my display tag on the left, i'm already a emo customer lol

emo vip

My brokerage deals with shipping every day and there are 2 major challenges to giving special pricing to international (and even domestic) partners.

1. The retailer makes more margin and does not drop their SRP to the agreed amount.
2. The retailer often acts as what is called a diverter. Diverters ask for hot deals and then proceed to ship product back to the market of origin, at drastically reduced prices, and it opens up a whole grey market for the item(s)

There are other problems, but these are the main 2 we run into.
Hell, we've had retailers and distributors tell us they needed special pricing to fund targeted marketing and we find out they put it all on a ship and sent it overseas; sometimes with false documentation.
Never underestimate greed and the human condition.
Scott

[socketman]

Feb 3, 2018 23:20:15 GMT -5 ausman said:

the xmc 1 retail is $4,500 here, yet i can import cheaper than buying the bloody thing at retail this is why I have said all along if you want to do emotiva outside the states you really need to get people setup within australia as a direct sale agent to reduce some of the cost, doing it at the current medium of distro agents is killing the consumer base

dealer networking in Australia is nothing but a retail scam and should never exist..

I would support local buying more if it was within $500-1,000 of the $USD price but when the markup is $2,000 ontop of the USD price i just can't justify the additional cost outlay especially looking at buying 2 or more units at a time..

price gouging is real big issue in australia for a $2,500 processor i'm expected to pay $4,000 extra, for 5,000 usd i might py 6.5-7k to grt it here

thanks for the offer i only deal direct with emotiva, look at my display tag on the left, i'm already a emo customer lol

emo vip

With the ability to see pricing over the internet i find it surprising that these sorts of places even exist. Surely shipping to Australia can not take so long that you would not wait and order directly from Emotiva. I do understand that since the seller is buying from Emotiva and stocking the item for who knows how long they need some markup but that seems quite extreme. I understand your frustration, even for me in canada i have to endure some ridiculous shipping costs with some companies not shipping direct and having to use a broker or sorts to get something i want that is not available here. If Trump and Trudope cancel NAFTA god only know what that will mean. GL

[Gary Cook]

I think it needs reminding that Dan said that the Distributor and Retailer margins were built in to the prices. I simple terms, Emotiva gave them enough discount so that they could sell at the Emotiva direct price and still make enough margin. Plainly that's not happening. They use exchange rates, duty, GST and freight to confuse the issue but simple maths proves that to be erroneous.

The fact is we suffer doubly, Emotiva put the prices up to cover the Distributor and Retailer margins and then we pay Distributor and Retailer margins on top of that. It's lose lose.

FWIW XMC-1's being made in the USA don't have any duty as we have free trade agreement,


Cheers
Gary

[ausman]

yup though not a factor of almost double to the American price, of the same hardware I'm okay to within $1,000 of the US price with markup though not to the point of the price gouging at $2,000 more, shipping top australia is usually done by fedex, and that is weight based..



I just think it is strange to go to the route of setting up an australian co to import them only to be charged close on double to what the unit is worth..

lol I think retailers are talking out their arses on special pricing as that is usually at cost or lower to physically make the product same with distribution agents..

It is basically con game

at special pricings you can have a onkyo 9.x channel for $2,500-3,250, when you compare specs of emotiva to everyone within market segment you have denon around $5,000 marantz and onkyo around $2,500-3.250 mark, looking at current xmc-1 specs it fits the market at $2,750-3,500 this is the processor market space..

in my cause it is blatantly price gouging on the currency exchange rate and it has been like that for the last 25-30 years..