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Post by drumace on Apr 8, 2018 9:24:28 GMT -5
Hi guys,
I have the Marantz CD6005 player and I'm in a search for SQ improvement (the rest of the equipment is already in high level).
I was thinking about replacing it with the ERC-3.
Do you think there would be a significant SQ improvement?
Also, does the ERC-3 display shows only track number and time or it can also show CD text as with the CD6005?
Appreciate a quick response as I have someone who's interested in my CD6005.
Thanks!
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Post by chicagorspec on Apr 8, 2018 9:33:53 GMT -5
No idea on sound comparison but ERC-3 display shows only track and time info.
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 8, 2018 9:34:29 GMT -5
Hi guys, I have the Marantz CD6005 player and I'm in a search for SQ improvement (the rest of the equipment is already in high level). I was thinking about replacing it with the ERC-3. Do you think there would be a significant SQ improvement? Also, does the ERC-3 display shows only track number and time or it can also show CD text as with the CD6005? Appreciate a quick response as I have someone who's interested in my CD6005. Thanks! Unfortunately not. I compared them side by side. For an upgrade in sound you can buy the sa-8005 or get a separate dac and use the 6005 as transport. |
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 8, 2018 9:34:40 GMT -5
I hate to be the spoiler here, but the Stealth DC-1 DAC I think will really impress. You keep all the functionality of your Marantz, but get the analog stage and the DAC that the ERC-3 is based on. Hope this helps.
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Post by mshump on Apr 8, 2018 9:40:04 GMT -5
I agree, keep the cd6005 and add a different dac on its Digital outputs.
Mark
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Post by drumace on Apr 8, 2018 9:40:58 GMT -5
I hate to be the spoiler here, but the Stealth DC-1 DAC I think will really impress. You keep all the functionality of your Marantz, but get the analog stage and the DAC that the ERC-3 is based on. Hope this helps. I thought about the DC-1 but- 1. I don't need another preamp (and another volume control) in the chain and as far as I understand there is no regular line-out ports on it. 2. It is no longer produced so used is the only option and it's a pretty rare device as I found out so sellers charges high money which I could spend on a player with the same DAC |
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Post by pallpoul on Apr 8, 2018 9:47:26 GMT -5
I had the emotiva cd-3, but I preferred and kept the Marantz SA-8005. to me it sounded better, and works really well with my set up.
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Post by drumace on Apr 8, 2018 10:11:44 GMT -5
I had the emotiva cd-3, but I preferred and kept the Marantz SA-8005. to me it sounded better, and works really well with my set up. The CD6005 has the same DAC as the SA8005 as I see on Marantz website so I assume they should sound pretty much the same, won't they? |
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Post by LCSeminole on Apr 8, 2018 12:09:42 GMT -5
I hate to be the spoiler here, but the Stealth DC-1 DAC I think will really impress. You keep all the functionality of your Marantz, but get the analog stage and the DAC that the ERC-3 is based on. Hope this helps. I thought about the DC-1 but- 1. I don't need another preamp (and another volume control) in the chain and as far as I understand there is no regular line-out ports on it. 2. It is no longer produced so used is the only option and it's a pretty rare device as I found out so sellers charges high money which I could spend on a player with the same DAC Yes it does have fixed line level outputs, as this is how I use it now. There is a setting in the UI for “Fixed” or “Variable”. |
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Post by drumace on Apr 8, 2018 12:24:46 GMT -5
I thought about the DC-1 but- 1. I don't need another preamp (and another volume control) in the chain and as far as I understand there is no regular line-out ports on it. 2. It is no longer produced so used is the only option and it's a pretty rare device as I found out so sellers charges high money which I could spend on a player with the same DAC Yes it does have fixed line level outputs, as this is how I use it now. There is a setting in the UI for “Fixed” or “Variable”. OK, that’s good, but what about the DAC itself- if they are the same on the DC-1 and the ERC-3 and if this DAC sounds as good or even less good than the DAC on the CD6005 then I don’t get the desired SQ upgrade. Do I? |
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 8, 2018 15:52:01 GMT -5
Difficult to quantify additional sound quality in of itself. SQ is a personal thing. Just because something might cost more doesn't always mean it's better. Difficult to say since we all perceive SQ differently. The DC-1 and or the 8005 might not be nirvana for you. Our hobby. Joy. I know for me allot of great DACs are around. Players not so much.
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 8, 2018 16:05:32 GMT -5
OK, that’s good, but what about the DAC itself- if they are the same on the DC-1 and the ERC-3 and if this DAC sounds as good or even less good than the DAC on the CD6005 then I don’t get the desired SQ upgrade. Do I? Although the DAC is the same there are twice as many DAC channels in the DC-1. Hence the implementation is different, the circuitry post and pre the DAC chip is also different. Within that circuitry the engineer/designer can "tune" the sound to quite some degree. As to whether the ERC-3 or the 6005 sounds "better" is a mute question, to my ears they sound very slightly different, but I can't say one is "better" than the other. Personally I prefer the sound from the ERC-3, but that just means I like its "difference", not that it sounds "better". DAC's are somewhat a personal preference in regards to their sound, for example no matter how they are "tuned" I don't like Sabre DAC's, but there are plenty that love them. Cheers Gary |
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