Umc-200

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Can you run hdmi from cable box to tv and sound thru umc200 from cable box using coax?

[Gary Cook]

I have an Apple TV4K and a Sony X800 4K player connected directly to the 4K Samsung panel for video.
The Sony X800 4K player has 2 x HDMI outlets, so the audio outlet is connected to my UMC-200.
The Apple TV4K only has 1 x HDMI output so I get audio to the UMC-200 via ARC (back from the Samsung panel).
My cable box is only 2K so it has the 1 x HDMI connection to the UMC-200 which uses the audio and then passes the video onto the Samsung.

This all works pretty well but there are a few downsides;
1. Low WAF, as it requires changing sources on both the UMC-200 and the Samsung panel. As well as an inconvenience there can be an occasional issue with HDMI/HDCP handshaking, which requires a reboot.
2. Via ARC I get only Dolby Digital 5.1 from the ATV4K, which sounds like a big issue. But in reality it isn't as I haven't found any streamed programming that uses more than DD5.1 anyway.
3. I needed to buy 4 x 4K high quality HDMI cables, which in my case are 5 metres long. With a 4K switching processor I would have only needed one, which means 3 are going in the never to be used again box at some point.

I did try a number of "inexpensive" 4K switches but they all had some issue or limitation. There are "expensive" 4K switches that don't, but at more than half the price of an MC-700 I just didn't see their worth, and it too would eventually end up in the never to be used again box.


Bottom line, it was a temporary measure that I put in place a year ago while I waited for the updates/upgrades to the XMC-1. When the reality was I should have just gone out and bought an MC-700, used my 25% UFL, and got on with life.


Cheers
Gary

[Gary Cook]

Apr 16, 2018 19:36:52 GMT -5 gname said:

Apr 16, 2018 19:19:56 GMT -5 Gary Cook said:

I have an Apple TV4K and a Sony X800 4K player connected directly to the 4K Samsung panel for video.
The Sony X800 4K player has 2 x HDMI outlets, so the audio outlet is connected to my UMC-200.
The Apple TV4K only has 1 x HDMI output so I get audio to the UMC-200 via ARC (back from the Samsung panel).
My cable box is only 2K so it has the 1 x HDMI connection to the UMC-200 which uses the audio and then passes the video onto the Samsung.
This all works pretty well but there are a few downsides;
1. Low WAF, as it requires changing sources on both the UMC-200 and the Samsung panel. As well as an inconvenience there can be an occasional issue with HDMI/HDCP handshaking, which requires a reboot.
2. Via ARC I get only Dolby Digital 5.1 from the ATV4K, which sounds like a big issue. But in reality it isn't as I haven't found any streamed programming that uses more than DD5.1 anyway.
3. I needed to buy 4 x 4K high quality HDMI cables, which in my case are 5 metres long. With a 4K switching processor I would have only needed one, which means 3 are going in the never to be used again box at some point.
I did try a number of "inexpensive" 4K switches but they all had some issue or limitation. There are "expensive" 4K switches that don't, but at more than half the price of an MC-700 I just didn't see their worth, and it too would eventually end up in the never to be used again box.
Bottom line, it was a temporary measure that I put in place a year ago while I waited for the updates/upgrades to the XMC-1. When the reality was I should have just gone out and bought an MC-700, used my 25% UFL, and got on with life.

That seems super complicated 😂 does the mc700 have the same capabilities as the umc 200? Is there any other upgrades aside from 4k capabilities? Also, what is 25% ufl?

It's not that complicated, just implemented one step at a time, it solved the immediate problem of how to get 4K to the panel and audio to the UMC-200.

From what I can tell the MC-700 has all the HT features of the UMC-200 plus it can switch 4K, so it's a simple one for one swap. It has 6 x HDMI inputs and 2 x HDMI outputs whereas the UMC-200 only has 4 and 1. But it misses out on the AM/FM radio, 7.1 analogue inputs and Zone 2 and 3 analogue outputs. It also only has 1 x digital coax input and 1 x toslink input whereas the UMC-200 has 2 of each. Only 1 trigger out, the UMC-200 has 2. The BTM-1 (blue tooth module) that works on the UMC-200 also works on the MC-700.

My problem with the MC-700 is I use Zone 2 (verandah) and 3 (garage), plus the 2nd trigger out. I use the radio occasionally but that's not a big deal. So there are meaningful losses for me moving to an MC-700, that's why I haven't.

Really early adopters of Emotiva processors (PMC-1 & UMC-1) got a one use only 40% discount card that they could use on their next Emotiva processor. It was an attraction to entice people to risk trying an unproven processor from a direct seller who had no history in making processors.

Early adopters of Emotiva processors (early UMC-200's) got a 25% UFL (Upgrade For Life) discount on every Emotiva processor that they bought going forward (with a limit of 2 per model I think). New UFL discounts were not issued from the time Emotiva added distributor/retail sales. Existing UFL holders still have that discount available for the rest of their lives.

Later/current adopters didn't/don't get a discount as the Emotiva processors were a proven product by then.


Cheers
Gary

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[novisnick]

Apr 16, 2018 17:15:19 GMT -5 gname said:

Has anyone replaced their umc-200 with something that supports 4k? What did you get? Pros and cons? I just dropped a boat load of money on a 4k tv not knowing I couldn't achieve 4k playback with my umc. Unless I'm missing something? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks for your time!

Most cable boxes don’t do 4K, purchase a 4K player that has two HDMI out and you’ll be able to run video directly to you new tv and audio to the UMC-200. Works great. 

Get a player that has the apps you like and your good for atreaming too.

Have fun! 👍😁