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Post by garbulky on May 21, 2018 22:53:01 GMT -5
I create a lot of data I want stored. And so I am in the need for cheap, reliable storage. It doesn't need to be accessed often or rewritten often. But it would need to be reliable. What's happened is that I am recording in high resolution audio which can eat up severeal hundred megs per recording in stereo. And I'm also recording 1080p video at 60 frames per second which takes up about 450 megs per song. And I usually end up creating at least a gigabyte of data per day. For the month of may alone I created about 26 gigs of ddata. And with me figuring out how to input my microphone in to my smartphone, that's going increase by about 50%. So the qestions is other than the standard hard drive solutions - I use an HGST 3 TB hard drive for mass storage + a 500 TB samsung evo solidstate unit , are there any other ideas you can come up that are cheap and fit the bill? Currently I plan to add another 4 TB Hard drive but I'd hate to just keep running out of storage. I don't really know much about other mediums. @caseyleedom bootman |
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Post by Casey Leedom on May 21, 2018 23:04:06 GMT -5
If you're just archiving and not accessing the data frequently, how about a Blu Ray Burner/Writer? They can store 128GB/disk ...
Casey
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Post by sahmen on May 22, 2018 0:13:58 GMT -5
Three words: Network Attached Storage... I use a Synology NAS with 4 bays...     It is called the DS416play NAS DiskStation. I currently have a total storage space of only 16 TB installed on it, but you can use disks with even more storage space, or add more bays to it, if you want to. You can use it to store and also manage all your music, movies, and multimedia stuff, including even transcoding and streaming 4 K UHD movies to your devices, either on your home network, or using remote access, from anywhere when OTG. Roon has made it possible to integrate all the music files stored on the NAS with music from my Tidal account, and created a merged library of those collections and playlists from which all music selections can be streamed to my components and devices on my network immediately demand, and that is very cool indeed . Also, all the data-files on my Mac desktops and laptops are backed up to the NAS, also for easy access OTG, should I ever need them, although I also have them double- backed up on separate hard-drives at home for additional security (I have been using these additional hard drives for storage for more than a decade now, and none of them has failed me as yet. Incidentally, the synology NAS is also set up to make double back-up copies of my data and spread them among the disks in a way that attempts to protect them, from getting lost, in case one or two of them should fail at a time, which has never happened to me, as yet (knock on wood). I started using my first Synology NAS, about 7 years ago. The one pictured here, is a more recent acquisition from August 2016, and is a relatively modest unit (like the first one I got, which is also still working): There are bigger and better ones if you can afford them.... You can also get a modest 4 or 2 bay unit and increase storage space, gradually by adding newer disks over time, as your needs grow. Other brands too exist that might appeal more to your needs. I am no Synology fan boy or agent... I just like the fact that their units work well, are durable, and rock-solid reliable. |
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Post by Loop 7 on May 22, 2018 1:15:56 GMT -5
Although expensive, moving everything to a NAS is my recommendation as well. Synology and QNAP are both solid brands with simple setup, management tools and apps. I have a Synology DS415play (predecessor to the model sahmen has). |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 22, 2018 2:22:28 GMT -5
I use the cloud for storage, 4TB costs $9.99 a month, the data isn't secret, has no personal information, no phone numbers, passwords, bank accounts, it's of no use to anyone else even if they stole it. I don't have to worry about back up, power failures, lightning strikes, replacing discs, overheating hardware in summer (I lost 2TB of data a few years back while I was on summer holidays) etc etc. None of my time is wasted doing hardware or software maintenance, it just backs up to the cloud every night automatically. The cost is tax deductible for me as it contains work product, so the real cost is only ~$6 a month. When/if I run out of the 4TB then I'll upgrade to 10TB for $19.99 a month (~$12 after tax deductions). The cost has come down at least 3 times in the last year, it was $10.99 a month a couple of months ago, now its $9.99 it'll be around $5.99 by next year at the current rate.
Of course it is facilitated by an unlimited data plan at 130 mbps so moving up and down to/from the cloud is no big deal. If paying for data then that should be factored into the cost budget.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by Boomzilla on May 22, 2018 2:59:45 GMT -5
Either Gary Cook's cloud storage option or another for local storage on the cheap: Buy one of these from Amazon for $22.99 - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LS5NFQ2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1And then keep your eyes peeled for sales on big INTERNAL 2.5 or 3.5 inch SATA drives. Not a week goes by that someone online doesn't put refurbished internal drives on sale for pennies on the dollar. Since your drives aren't going to be used continuously for read / write cycles, refurbished ones are probably going to be just fine for your needs. For example, here's a 4TB, 7200 RPM refurb drive with warranty for $79: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD5740811&cm_re=4TB_Hard_Drive-_-9SIA5AD5740811-_-ProductWhen you run out of space on one drive, hot swap another in and keep on trucking. Another source of REALLY cheap internal hard drives is the State Auction. You may have to buy them in lots, but the "per drive" cost is really trivial. |
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Post by Soup on May 22, 2018 6:22:19 GMT -5
Do you recommend that one over the one that includes a built-in fan?
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Post by Boomzilla on May 22, 2018 6:24:27 GMT -5
Yep - An amigo of mine uses those exclusively and has never had a problem with heat. His use is for his music server & he didn't want the noise of the fan.
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Post by kybourbon on May 22, 2018 6:26:13 GMT -5
Synology NAS. I have one.
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Post by Soup on May 22, 2018 6:27:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice.............will also be using for music server............
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Post by bootman on May 22, 2018 7:12:11 GMT -5
I run a QNAP NAS at home.
The Synology units are also a solid choice.
It all comes down to budget.
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Post by garbulky on May 27, 2018 15:43:47 GMT -5
I can't believe I didn't see the responses to all this. Thanks everybody. I have to consider this. Even though these drives would be used infrequently I just can't bring myself to use refurbished. Too risky
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Post by DYohn on May 27, 2018 15:53:44 GMT -5
If you want long-term reliability use NAS rated drives. I use WD Red exclusively and I have never had one fail (which I cannot say about WD green, Seagate Barracuda or Hitachi Ultrastars.) My server/NAS is currently loaded with 4X 3Tb Red drives.
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Post by klinemj on May 27, 2018 16:06:32 GMT -5
garbulkyMicrocenter.com has 8 TB WD external hard drives (USB 3.0) for just $169.99 right now. I'm tempted to get one myself! Mark
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Post by garbulky on May 27, 2018 16:23:28 GMT -5
garbulkyMicrocenter.com has 8 TB WD external hard drives (USB 3.0) for just $169.99 right now. I'm tempted to get one myself! Mark Dang that's REALLY nice. |
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Post by Soup on Jun 4, 2018 15:48:04 GMT -5
Yep - An amigo of mine uses those exclusively and has never had a problem with heat. His use is for his music server & he didn't want the noise of the fan. Just arrived today. In the process of moving music files to 3tb Seagate Barracuda. Thanks for the assistance. |
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Post by Loop 7 on Jun 4, 2018 18:07:38 GMT -5
If you want long-term reliability use NAS rated drives. I use WD Red exclusively and I have never had one fail (which I cannot say about WD green, Seagate Barracuda or Hitachi Ultrastars.) My server/NAS is currently loaded with 4X 3Tb Red drives. Agree. WD Red, from what I understand, are designed for longevity, heat tolerance, etc. |
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Post by bootman on Jun 4, 2018 18:12:51 GMT -5
garbulkyMicrocenter.com has 8 TB WD external hard drives (USB 3.0) for just $169.99 right now. I'm tempted to get one myself! Mark Dang that's REALLY nice. Same price at Amazon. |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 4, 2018 18:22:07 GMT -5
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Post by garbulky on Jun 4, 2018 23:08:38 GMT -5
I just purchased an HGST internal 8TB drive. HGST has a pretty good reputation. In time, I hope to get on the external 8tb deal so that I can back it up. On Sunday I created about 9 gigabytes of data from a 1.5 hr session. So, yeah I'm going to need this one!! Here's to hoping data prices keep going down.
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